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    Yeah, what gives?

     
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    What a waste of time. The BDC Propaganda Machine At work. Thanks BDC. Somebody Must Have Really Struck a chorde at the Propaganda Machine  for Them to Remove an ENTIRE thread.

     
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    How funny, Talking about the Housing Crisis and The Financial Crisis and at the top of the BDC pages there are adds for Government Housing Loans and Poor Credit Loans. Well I guess atleast we know where BDC stands.

     
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    It's weird..but if I copy the link and open in a new tab..it brings me to the original thread...I am using a firefox browser if that makes any difference.

    As far as the thread being hidden..it doesn't seem better or worse than many other things that get posted here...so I am going to guess it has to do with the story link. I could understand BDC not wanting users linking to stories from websites that are..shall we say..less than reputable. Just a guess.

    ComingLiberalCrackup should really try writing his own forum post on the topic instead of just a story link..just to see if that is what the issue is.

     
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    I find that these threads now remind me of swiss cheese with all the holes in them from the censors. Tough to follow.

     
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    In response to miscricket's comment:

    It's weird..but if I copy the link and open in a new tab..it brings me to the original thread...I am using a firefox browser if that makes any difference.

    As far as the thread being hidden..it doesn't seem better or worse than many other things that get posted here...so I am going to guess it has to do with the story link. I could understand BDC not wanting users linking to stories from websites that are..shall we say..less than reputable. Just a guess.

    ComingLiberalCrackup should really try writing his own forum post on the topic instead of just a story link..just to see if that is what the issue is.




    Drudge Report is viewed by 22 million or more a year...but BDC wont allow a link to it?

     
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    It's weird..but if I copy the link and open in a new tab..it brings me to the original thread...I am using a firefox browser if that makes any difference.

    As far as the thread being hidden..it doesn't seem better or worse than many other things that get posted here...so I am going to guess it has to do with the story link. I could understand BDC not wanting users linking to stories from websites that are..shall we say..less than reputable. Just a guess.

    ComingLiberalCrackup should really try writing his own forum post on the topic instead of just a story link..just to see if that is what the issue is.

     




     

    Drudge Report is viewed by 22 million or more a year...but BDC wont allow a link to it?




    Except that when you click on your link it doesn't take you to the Drudge report..but rather to this page"

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/food-stamp-rolls-america-now-surpass-population-spain

    Additionally..the two times I clicked on the link..it froze up my computer. BTW..if you are looking for a definition of a propaganda site..that link seems to be it. They don't even pretend to be objective..lol

     
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    "Additionally..the two times I clicked on the link..it froze up my computer"

    Your computer has had so many liberal websites linked, when it comes across a conservative site, it hiccups...

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    And entire thread seems to have vanished, unless it pops back up... in which case excuse me.

    Pulling posts left and right is bad enough. If they're going to start pulling entire threads then forget it. What's the point of even trying?

    I can get to the thread with this link:

    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/food-stamp-president-has-recruited-16-million-americans-to-sign-on-to-the-ebt-lifestyle/80/6544723#edit-post-form

     

    But I don't see it listed under general anymore?

     

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    CLC said:

    STATE OF THE UNION: 11,629 MORE GO ON FOOD STAMPS EACH DAY...
    When Obama entered office in January 2009 there were 31,939,110 Americans receiving food stamps. As of November 2012—the most recent data available—there were 47,692,896 Americans enrolled, an increase of 49.3 percent.

     

    Liberals claim the economy is coming back....if so, shouldnt the EBT rolls have decreased?

     

    Or is something else going on with this program?

     

    Either there is no economic recovery under Obama, OR this program is out of control...which is it, libs?

     

    Are libs comfortable with 49 million (and growing massively) government dependents getting free food from the Government for life?

     

    Yes, the food stamp program when enacted was a modest program to help those few truly in dire need...does anyone sane (excludes liberals, alas) think this program doesnt need reform?

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    Matty said:

    Marie Antoinette, 18th century: "Let them eat cake"

     

    Conservatives, 21st century: "Let 'em starve."  (Serves 'em right for re-electing a socialist fascist muslim negro)

     

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    I said.

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    Re: Food Stamp President has recruited 16 million Americans to sign on to the EBT lifestyle



    Don't you mean:

     

    "Global economic collapsed caused by mortgage and financial crises, for which each party bears responsibility in varying degrees, has forced16 million Americans to sign on to the EBT lifestyle"

     

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    Liberals claim the economy is coming back....if so, shouldnt the EBT rolls have decreased?




     

    No.

    The EBT rolls should be back to where they were pre-crash, once the economy is back to where it was pre-crash, plus a little extra time for everyone to get jobs again.

    TARP, then Stimulus, halted the complete crash. The economy is slowly getting better.

     

     

     

    And that gets me to something few people seem to be pointing out: The crashes were the result of bubbles bursting, plus resulting fear and uncertainty.

    The economy had already been artificially propped up by the stimulative effect of government spending on two wars.

    If the economy were already recovered.........it would mean we were riding on bubbles just as big.

    It's going to take a while to get back to where we were....well I should say....where we appeared to be, but weren't....if we don't want another crash.

     

     

     

    But I know...these are tricky concepts. They make it hard to blame specific people. They make it hard to justify building bunkers. So you refuse to acknowledge them.

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    The guy with all the X's and stewie said:

     

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    Marie Antoinette, 18th century: "Let them eat cake"

     

    Conservatives, 21st century: "Let 'em starve."  (Serves 'em right for re-electing a socialist fascist muslim negro)

     

     




    Yup He's Totally Saying to let People starve.Maybe People Wouldnt have to be on food stamps If your Messiah Had one Clue On how to get an Economy going again. Billions And Billions of dollars down the drain.And for what??? NOTHING!  When your loosing the Arguement Change the Subject.

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    If your Messiah
    Man, you've said you don't come here because you don't like the way threads devolve. But honestly... messiah talk?

    That sort of thing is why it happens.

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    User said

    This nation has been waging war against labor since Reagan moved into the White House.

    According to 2010 census data, 48% of individual wage earners make less than $25K. This is the infamous 47% that Romney disparaged. Those that make less than $40K include fully 2/3 of the work force.

    Another way to slice it: The median income of the bottom 90% is less than $30K and the average of that same group is about 10% higher.

    Combine obscene pay rates with the evisceration of employee pensions and health benefits, the replacement of full-time employment and salaries with temporary workers and minimum wages, massive job off-shoring to cheaper labor markets, the hijacking of the federal tax code via Congressional bribery and state governments for corporate tax welfare and the final result is a massive reduction of corporate expenses that produced huge profits that were swept almost exclusively to the CEO's office.

    In the old days, when people had a shred of decency to them, this behavior was not possible because it was considered sociopathic.

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    XXX Stewie said

    Get F cked WDYWN. Who's Idea Was It that EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A HOME even if you cant afford it??? Hmmmm.

     

    Some People( Ones with Higher education and Larger Pay scales) Have been Looking for Jobs since 2008. With no Hope In sight that they Will Ever Get back to the Pay They were Recieving Before the "Crash"

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    If your Messiah



    Man, you've said you don't come here because you don't like the way threads devolve. But honestly... messiah talk?

     

     

     

    That sort of thing is why it happens.

     

     

     



    I guess Im Part of the Problem Then. But Atleast i Acknowledge it. Unlike Some people. cough(obama) Cough.
     

     

    I would call him the President of the untied states but hes not my president. Maybe your but not mine. So Messiah Is the word i like to use.

     

     

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    Get F cked WDYWN.

    That doesn't sound like a bad idea, though I know you meant it in the mean spirited way.


    Puts your complaints about personal attacks in an interesting light....

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    OMG, please re-read what you wrote, is this your come-back, bwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

     

     

    One thing has notheing to do with the other, rant on, you can't defend Barry's actions, so just attack the entire free-enterprise system.

     

    what a tool!




    Workers earning peanuts while costs rise has nothing to do with the number of people getting EBT cards?  I disagree.

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    Damain said

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    Get F cked WDYWN. Who's Idea Was It that EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A HOME even if you cant afford it??? Hmmmm.

    Some People( Ones with Higher education and Larger Pay scales) Have been Looking for Jobs since 2008. With no Hope In sight that they Will Ever Get back to the Pay They were Recieving Before the "Crash"

     




    So you've never heard of GWB's ownership society concept that he pushed while in office during the height of the housing bubble?  Interesting.

     

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    Who's Idea Was It that EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A HOME even if you cant afford it???



    I'm glad you asked. Heard of this guy?

     

     

    President George W. Bush addresses the White House Conference on Increasing Minority Homeownership at The George Washington University Tuesday, Oct. 15, 2002

    THE PRESIDENT: …. I appreciate your attendance to this very important conference. You see, we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.

     

     

     

     

    This is -- an ownership society is a compassionate society.

    More and more people own their homes in America today. Two-thirds of all Americans own their homes, yet we have a problem here in America because few than half of the Hispanics and half the African Americans own the home. That's a homeownership gap. It's a -- it's a gap that we've got to work together to close for the good of our country, for the sake of a more hopeful future.

    We've got to work to knock down the barriers that have created a homeownership gap.

    I set an ambitious goal. It's one that I believe we can achieve. It's a clear goal, that by the end of this decade we'll increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families. (Applause.) … And it's going to require a strong commitment from those of you involved in the housing industry. …

    I appreciate so very much the home owners who are with us today, the Arias family, newly arrived from Peru. They live in Baltimore. Thanks to the Association of Real Estate Brokers, the help of some good folks in Baltimore, they figured out how to purchase their own home. Imagine to be coming to our country without a home, with a simple dream. And now they're on stage here at this conference being one of the new home owners in the greatest land on the face of the Earth. I appreciate the Arias family coming. (Applause.)

    We've got the Horton family from Little Rock, Arkansas, here today. … They were helped by HUD, they were helped by Freddie Mac. …

    Finally, Kim Berry from New York is here. She's a single mom. You're not going to believe this, but her son is 18 years old. (Laughter.) She barely looked like she was 18 to me. And being a single mom is the hardest job in America. And the idea of this fine American working hard to provide for her child, at the same time working hard to realize her dream, which is owning a home on Long Island, is really a special tribute to the character of this particular person and to the character of a lot of Americans. So we're honored to have you here, Kim, and thanks for being such a good mom and a fine American. (Applause.)

    I told Mel Martinez I was serious about this initiative… And the good news is, Mel Martinez believes it and means it, as well. He's doing a fine job of running HUD, and I'm glad he has joined my Cabinet. (Applause.)

    And I picked a pretty spunky deputy, as well, Alphonso Jackson -- my fellow Texan. (Applause.) I call him A.J. …

    I see Rosario Marin, who's the Treasurer of the United States. Rosario used to be a mayor. Thank you for coming, Madam Mayor. (Applause.) She understands how important housing is. …

    All of us here in America should believe, and I think we do, that we should be, as I mentioned, a nation of owners. Owning something is freedom, as far as I'm concerned. It's part of a free society. And ownership of a home helps bring stability to neighborhoods. You own your home in a neighborhood, you have more interest in how your neighborhood feels, looks, whether it's safe or not. It brings pride to people, it's a part of an asset-based to society. It helps people build up their own individual portfolio, provides an opportunity, if need be, for a mom or a dad to leave something to their child. It's a part of -- it's of being a -- it's a part of -- an important part of America.

    Homeownership is also an important part of our economic vitality. If -- when we meet this project, this goal, according to our Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, we will have added an additional $256 billion to the economy by encouraging 5.5 million new home owners in America; …

    Low interest rates, low inflation are very important foundations for economic growth. The idea of encouraging new homeownership and the money that will be circulated as a result of people purchasing homes will mean people are more likely to find a job in America. This project not only is good for the soul of the country, it's good for the pocketbook of the country, as well.

    To open up the doors of homeownership there are some barriers, and I want to talk about four that need to be overcome. First, down payments. A lot of folks can't make a down payment. They may be qualified. They may desire to buy a home, but they don't have the money to make a down payment. I think if you were to talk to a lot of families that are desirous to have a home, they would tell you that the down payment is the hurdle that they can't cross. And one way to address that is to have the federal government participate.

    And so we've called upon Congress to set up what's called the American Dream Down Payment Fund, which will provide financial grants to local governments to help first-time home buyers who qualify to make the down payment on their home. If a down payment is a problem, there's a way we can address that. And when Congress funds the program, this should help 200,000 new families over the next five years become first-time home buyers.

    Secondly, affordable housing is a problem in many neighborhoods, particularly inner-city neighborhoods. … I'm doing is proposing a single-family affordable housing credit to encourage the construction of single-family homes in neighborhoods where affordable housing is scarce. (Applause.)

    Over the next five years the initiative will provide home builders and therefore home buyers with -- home builders with $2 billion in tax credits to bring affordable homes and therefore provide an additional supply for home buyers. …

    And we've got to set priorities. And one of the key priorities is going to be inner-city America. …

    Another obstacle to minority homeownership is the lack of information. You know, getting into your own home can be complicated. It can be a difficult process. I had that very same problem. (Laughter and applause.)

    Every home buyer has responsibilities and rights that need to be understood clearly. And yet, when you look at some of the contracts, there's a lot of small print. And you can imagine somebody newly arrived from Peru looking at all that print, and saying, I'm not sure I can possibly understand that. Why do I want to buy a home? There's an educational process that needs to go on, not only to explain the contract, explain obligation, but also to explain financing options, to help people understand the complexities of a homeownership market, and also at the same time to protect people from unscrupulous lenders, people who would take advantage of a good-hearted soul who is trying to realize their dream.

    Homeownership education is critical. And so today, I'm pleased to announce that through Mel's office, we're going to distribute $35 million in 2003 to more than 100 national, state and local organizations that promote homeownership through buyer education. (Applause.)

    And, of course, one of the larger obstacles to minority homeownership is financing, is the ability to have their dream financed. Right now, we have a program that all of you are familiar with, maybe our fellow Americans are, and that's what they call a Section 8 housing program, that provides billions of dollars in vouchers to help low-income Americans with their rent. It encourages leasing. We think it's important that we use those vouchers, that federal money to help low-income Americans go from being somebody who leases to somebody who owns; that we use the Section 8 program to not only help with down payment, but to help with continuing monthly mortgage payments after they're into their new home. It is a -- it is a way to help us meet this dream of 5.5 million additional families owning their home.

    I'm also going to encourage the lending industry to develop a mortgage market so that this script, these vouchers, can regularly be used as a source of payment to provide more capital to lenders, who can then help more families move from rental housing into houses of their own. …

    Last June, I issued a challenge to everyone involved in the housing industry to help increase the number of minority families to be home owners. And what I'm talking about, I'm talking about your bankers and your brokers and developers, as well as members of faith-based community and community programs. And the response to the home owners challenge has been very strong and very gratifying. Twenty-two public and private partners have signed up to help meet our national goal. Partners in the mortgage finance industry are encouraging homeownership by purchasing more loans made by banks to African Americans, Hispanics and other minorities.

    Representatives of the real estate and homebuilding industries, through their nationwide networks or affiliates, are committed to broadening homeownership. They made the commitment to help meet the national goal we set.

    Freddie Mae -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- I see the heads who are here; I want to thank you all for coming -- (laughter) -- have committed to provide more money for lenders. They've committed to help meet the shortage of capital available for minority home buyers.

    Fannie Mae recently announced a $50 million program to develop 600 homes for the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. Franklin [Raines], I appreciate that commitment. They also announced $12.7 million investment in a condominium project in Harlem. It's the beginnings of a series of initiatives to help meet the goal of 5.5 million families. Franklin told me at the meeting where we kicked this office, he said, I promise you we will help, and he has, like many others in this room have done.

    Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans. …

    There's all kinds of ways that we can work together to meet the goal. Corporate America has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place. Corporate America has responded. As an example -- only one of many examples -- the good folks at Sears and Roebuck have responded by making a five-year, $100 million commitment to making homeownership and home maintenance possible for millions of Americans. …

    The non-profit groups are bringing homeownership to some of our most troubled communities. …

    The other thing Kirbyjon told me, which I really appreciate, is you don't have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else. And I know Kirbyjon. He is what I call a social entrepreneur who is using his platform as a Methodist preacher to improve the neighborhood and the community in which he lives.

    And so is Luis Cortes, who represents Nueva Esperanza in Philadelphia. I went to see Luis in the inner-city Philadelphia. … But he also understood that a homeownership program is incredibly important to revitalize this neighborhood that a lot of folks had already quit on. …

    Again, I want to tell you, this is an initiative -- as Mel will tell you, it's an initiative that we take very seriously. … Thank you for coming. May God bless your vision. May God bless America. (Applause.)

     

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    But unlike you I'll be honest.

    Bush jumped on a badwagon the Democrats built.

    I give dems a little more blame for the mortgage crises, and Republicans more blame for the financial crisis that made the crash so spectacular.

     

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    "49 million getting government assistance"????   WRONG!   Try 101 MILLION!!!!!

     
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    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    This is -- an ownership society is a compassionate society

     

    The middle class have become the slaves to the gimmies.

    Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama brought them back.

    We HAVE to bridge the ownership gap... at the expense of people who work for a living.



    Do you work?

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

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    Who's Idea Was It that EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A HOME even if you cant afford it???


    I'm glad you asked. Heard of this guy?

    President George W. Bush addresses the White House Conference on Increasing Minority Homeownership at The George Washington University Tuesday, Oct. 15, 2002

    THE PRESIDENT: …. I appreciate your attendance to this very important conference. You see, we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.

    This is -- an ownership society is a compassionate society.

    More and more people own their homes in America today. Two-thirds of all Americans own their homes, yet we have a problem here in America because few than half of the Hispanics and half the African Americans own the home. That's a homeownership gap. It's a -- it's a gap that we've got to work together to close for the good of our country, for the sake of a more hopeful future.

    We've got to work to knock down the barriers that have created a homeownership gap.




    The idea was pushed by William J Clinton

     

    William J. Clinton    

    Remarks on the National Homeownership Strategy
    June 5, 1995

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=51448

     

    We've made good progress, but we have to do a lot more. I ask all of you just one more time to look at that chart. And I wish I had a lot of other charts to show you that would reinforce that. Home ownership declines, then stabilizes at a lower level. At the same time, more and more American families working harder for the same or lower wages every year, under new and difficult stresses. It seems to me that we have a serious, serious unmet obligation to try to reverse these trends. As Secretary Cisneros says, this drop in home ownership means 1.5 million families who would now be in their own homes if the 46 years of home ownership expansion had not been reversed in the 1980's.

    Now we have begun to expand it again. Since 1993, nearly 2.8 million new households have joined the ranks of America's homeowners, nearly twice as many as in the previous 2 years. But we have to do a lot better. The goal of this strategy, to boost home ownership to 67.5 percent by the year 2000, would take us to an all-time high, helping as many as 8 million American families across that threshold.

    This is the new way home for the American middle class. We have got to raise incomes in this country. We have got to increase security for people who are doing the right thing, and we have got to make people believe that they can have some permanence and stability in their lives even as they deal with all the changing forces that are out there in this global economy.

    No person, even the President, can look at these young people and say, I will guarantee you, no matter what happens in the global economy, you will always have the job you have today, and you'll make more money next year than you did this year. You know no one can guarantee that in the global economy. That's not the way the world works anymore.

    But we can guarantee to people that we're going to empower them to help themselves. We'll make home ownership more accessible. We'll make lifetime education and training more accessible. We'll make the things that make life work for people who are trying to do the best they can for themselves there. We have to begin with the basic things that make it worth doing.

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    Joe, sloppytaco asked me who said everyone must own a home. I gave him that person: Bush.


    We've been back and forth on the mortgage issue as you know, so I trust you recall that I've said I blame both parties and to some extent give the Dems a little more blame.

    But I can't let people kid themselves that Rs weren't heavily for the idea themselves.

     

    I mean.....when a President with an R next to the name says, "You see, we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want. " It really doesn't leave much room for pointing fingers at the Democrats or making Barney Frank jokes.



    True we've talked about his before, the big push for the home ownership country was by Truman through VA Loans and Levitt Town.

    Having everyone who can afford it own their own home is great for the economy and build better citizens; ............now I'm quoting George Bailey.  The failure to ensure that only people who could afford home ownership leads to another discussion that we've had before.

     
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