does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

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     All I know is if it was a Repub that got caught messing around the Dems would never have said.."What's the big deal? It's only a BJ". Nope...they would have lit him up just like the Repubs did to Clinton. Anyone who denies that is lying. 



    How can anyone lie about a hypothetical that hasn't happened?


    Why don't we wait and see whether Ds try to impeach an R for cheatnig on his wife?

     
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    The leader of the free world had an intern under his desk and my side is still trying to defend that?


    Nobody is defending adultery

    It just wasn't a matter for congressional investigation. It was a matter for Hillary to decide whether to divorce.

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    That is you opinion.  My feeeling is it was a matter for congressional investigation and he should not only have been impeached but removed from office.  Any CEO, manager, teacher, or other position of authority would have.

    Today Clinton is a Democrat hero. To me he is a disgrace. 

     




    Removed because of adultery or removed because of lying to congress?

     

    I'm not sure I've ever heard of a CEO, manager, teacher, or person in position of authority being fired for cheating on a spouse.

     




    With a subordinate?   A young, impressionable, intern?  The President? A twenty one year old girl? 

    Seriously?

     
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    The leader of the free world had an intern under his desk and my side is still trying to defend that?


    Nobody is defending adultery

    It just wasn't a matter for congressional investigation. It was a matter for Hillary to decide whether to divorce.

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    That is you opinion.  My feeeling is it was a matter for congressional investigation and he should not only have been impeached but removed from office.  Any CEO, manager, teacher, or other position of authority would have.

    Today Clinton is a Democrat hero. To me he is a disgrace. 

     




    Removed because of adultery or removed because of lying to congress?

     

    I'm not sure I've ever heard of a CEO, manager, teacher, or person in position of authority being fired for cheating on a spouse.

     

    Here's a couple of examples


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/10/us-lockheed-kubasik-idUSBRE8A81JA20121110

    The investigation ended on Friday when the board asked for, and received, Kubasik's resignation. He admitted to having "a close personal relationship with a subordinate employee" that violated the company's code of ethics and business conduct.

    As far as I know there is nothing in the constitution about the President shall not commit adultery; you may think it should be an impeachable offense....I'm not convinced.

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2148985/Stryker-CEO-Stephen-MacMillan-fired-dating-companys-corporate-jet-flight-attendant-despite-given-permission-board.html

     Ok, I am now aware of one CEO who was fired despite not breaching any code of conduct. Still not convinced Clinton should have been fired for the adultery.




     

    And I guess JFK just plain lucked out...  

     
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    Again (again): I am not saying it is "OK" to commit adultery, just that it does not fit the constitutional standard for impeachment and I do not see it as a reason for congressional investigation.


    That's completely separate from the issue of whether lying to congress should result in impeachment and removal.

     
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    Re: does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

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    Again (again): I am not saying it is "OK" to commit adultery, just that it does not fit the constitutional standard for impeachment and I do not see it as a reason for congressional investigation.


    That's completely separate from the issue of whether lying to congress should result in impeachment and removal.



    Adultery was not the standard, lying under oath was.  The left keeps chasing this fantasy.

    Still, I get your point that it was a silly thing to pursue impeachment.

     
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    Yes, lying under oath was the standard. I think we all understand that.


    The last 10-20 posts sprung from my criticism of investigating the adultery in the first place. It was an investigation designed to do one of two things: (1) at worst, Clinton tells the truth, gets publicly embarassed, and we move on, (2) at best, Clinton lies to cover up the affair, and now you get to impeach him for lying to congress.

    Criticizing the investigation is not defending lying to congress. It is criticizing the investigation as a political stunt and no more.

     
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    Re: does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

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    Yes, lying under oath was the standard. I think we all understand that.


    The last 10-20 posts sprung from my criticism of investigating the adultery in the first place. It was an investigation designed to do one of two things: (1) at worst, Clinton tells the truth, gets publicly embarassed, and we move on, (2) at best, Clinton lies to cover up the affair, and now you get to impeach him for lying to congress.

    Criticizing the investigation is not defending lying to congress. It is criticizing the investigation as a political stunt and no more.



    Lying under oath is not dependent on what the lying is about.  

    I don't think the underlying investigation was a "political stunt".  The Clintons were crooks, not that it is an unusual thing in D.C. Getting caught lying on this is analagous to Capone being put away for tax evasion.

     
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    Re: does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

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    Yes, lying under oath was the standard. I think we all understand that.





    You may but not everyone does because I still hear people say he was impeached for a BJ. No, he was impeached for lying under oath. Big difference.



    The left will continue to refer  to the underlying act as the reason, rest assured.  The left does this on just about every issue: deflect.

     
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    Re: does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

    Hey, did you see the picture of Bill over at Wellesley College looking for Hillary at her old stomping grounds?

     
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    It's interesting to watch the defenders of this unrepentant sc*mbag wonder at executives being fired for "cheating on their wives."

    Oh . . .   sure . . .  semantics are fun, but see . . .  they don't get fired for cheating on their wives . . .  they get fired for "not having sex with that woman." (depending -- of course -- on your understanding of the word "is.") I would be interested to hear more about all these companies where it's okay to bang the interns.

    People . . .

    Please.

     

     

     

     
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    wonder at executives being fired for "cheating on their wives."


    Companies generally have policies about CEOs sleeping with secretaries.

    I continue to find it odd that if a CEO has an affair with someone outside of the company, that somehow becomes a fireable offense. It's a divorceable offense, sure. But fireable? I suppose, if it meant people would boycott the product.

     

    Would you boycott a favored product if the CEO of the company committed adultery?

    Is the CEO's marriage or failure in marriage any of your business, anyway?

     
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    Re: does anyone believe BILL CLINTON actually did this?

    Apparently, Barbara Bush disagrees (no I am not seriously using this as an argument)

     

    Despite the fact that he defeated her husband in the 1992 presidential election, Barbara Bush loves Bill Clinton. She said in a C-SPAN interview that George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton have bonded over the years to form a bipartisan friendship.

    “I love Bill Clinton. Maybe not his politics, but I love Bill Clinton,” she said in the interview. ”Bill’s father wasn’t around. And I think that he thinks of George a little bit like the father he didn’t have, and he’s very loving to him. And I really appreciate that.”

     
     
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