Snowden has been called a “traitor” by politicians and had his personal safety threatened. Now he’s been formally charged with violating the Espionage Act—the same law used to charge Bradley Manning, who provided information to WikiLeaks. 

For his trouble, Manning was held in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day and forced to sleep naked and sheetless, in conditions even a military judge called “excessive.” 

So, does Snowden, now formally charged with violating the Espionage Act deserve due process OR should he receive the same treatment as Bradley Manning, who was charged with violating the same act for providing information to Wikileaks?

REDNECK

Of course but who knows what will happen in todays USA.

Yes. No drone strikes please and thank you.

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At first I thought the Snowden case was very different. Still do but some doubts crop up about what he might have done with China.

Bradley Manning deserves the death penalty. His disclosures resulted in the deaths of people working for us. 

Snowden is different so far. He is exposing some excesses on the part of our government spying on us.

                        http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=ce874a42-a367-452f-afd0-fe76282426fa

"Why I Don't Care About Edward Snowden"   

The "I" is not me but Sanders, who feels Snowden himself is not the real issue here but what he did and why he  did it..

The fact  he did opens up the debate on the issues he exposed in short. Of course Snowden matters. And assumed now to be in Hong Kong, what comes next concerning him matters. But there are even bigger issues involved is Sanders point if you go to the site.                                

In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

link?

REDNECK

He's moved on to Russia 

has anything changed , SSDD

We're in a tunnel long way to the end.

GITM nation

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In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

"While it is unknown whether any of the men were indeed named in the WikiLeaks documents..."

Well that is certainly damning evidence.

Thanks for playing...do try again.                         

In response to andiejen's comment:

He apparently didn't make the flight (intentionally or otherwise) from Moscow to Havanna....   

He doesn't seem to want us to consider him a "whistleblower":

Edward Snowden secured a job with a US government contractor for one reason alone – to obtain evidence on Washington’s cyberspying networks, the  South China Morning Post can reveal.

For the first time, Snowden has admitted he sought a position at Booz Allen Hamilton so he could collect proof about the US National Security Agency’s secret surveillance programmes ahead of planned leaks to the media. "My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," he told the  Post on June 12. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago." ...

Asked if he specifically went to Booz Allen Hamilton to gather evidence of surveillance, he replied: "Correct on Booz." His intention was to collect information about the NSA hacking into "the whole world" and "not specifically Hong Kong and China".

      To me, that sounds more like 'unaffiliated spy' - even if I am glad to have received the information he disclosed.

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In response to MrCricket's comment:

 This is a new day and age with a new kind of warfare ..... Snowden deserves to be decently treated, decently fed and than decently shot ...  he not a hero he is a traitor and a spy !

Another way to look at Edward Snowden in the larger scheme of things.

I think that the problem is that Snowden should have gone the traditional wistleblower route instead of going rogue. There are supposed to be safeguards in place for someone like him (although I can't really blame him for distrusting this admin.)

I think that he did us a favor by exposing the pervasiveness of the NSA programs but he should not have stolen classified data and left the country with four laptops or gone to Russia This makes me think that he's less of a hero and more of a traitor.

I'm keeping my mind open though.

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no due process unless on US soil

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Can I see your J.D.?

In response to macnh1's comment:

Only, seemingly, if you're a democrat.

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In response to StalkingButler's comment:

Ya got that bass ackwards.

If a neo-con creates a program and utilizes that program then the wingnuts cheer.

If a Dem is next elected into office and uses the same program, created and previously used by the wingnuts, the wingnuts go beserk.

Ya'll got this childish disconnect between the reality behind such programs that you used to support but now attack, only because the next guy in line is of the opposing party.

Did Bush target US citizens abroad with lethal drone strikes?

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