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Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/4/2013 5:32 PM EST
Outlays, huh?
Obama the budget cutter...thanks for the laugh..
You get a free Obamaphone for your efforts...and an EBT card.
Federal revenues will climb roughly 8% this year, 10.5% next year and 12.3% the year after that. And from 2016-22, federal revenues are projected to increase an average of almost 6% a year, according to Congressional Budget Office data.
As a share of GDP, federal revenues will be 19% (and climbing) by 2017 — which is well in excess of the 17.9% average of the previous 60 years. In dollar terms, that means Washington will take in $220 billion more in 2017 alone than it would have if revenues-per-GDP were kept to the historic average.
Read More At IBD: No Doubt: Obama's Big Spending Will Mean More Tax Hikes on Everyone - Investors.com http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/020413-643105-obama-wants-more-and-more-taxes. -
Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/4/2013 5:37 PM EST
Airborne should stick to jumping out of planes. Economics isn't his strong suit.
expenditures up year over year, yet somehow they are going down. Crikey. A first grader could figure that out.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/4/2013 7:18 PM EST
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
As the chart below shows, federal outlays for goods, services and employee compensation have fallen in seven of the past nine quarters, according to data compiled by the Commerce Department. The inflation-adjusted annual rate fell 7.9 percent from a peak reached in the third quarter of 2010. Spending by state and local governments has also dropped.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/03/spending-cuts-are-nothing-new-for-u-s-economy/
Define Good, Service and Compensation ....... (otherwise know is cherry picking)http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf
said we have spend more than we brought in
Unless Oooobama is a liar !!!!
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:25 PM EST
Obams is a fiscal conservative and we didn't even know it.......I'm sure our creditors are sleeping better now.....how is our credit rating doing??
$16.5 trillion in debt
all other preidents combined...$9.5 trillion
Obama in 4.5 years....$7 trillion....a President of historic proportions!!!!
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:32 PM EST
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:38 PM EST
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
In response to macnh1's comment:
Obams is a fiscal conservative and we didn't even know it.......I'm sure our creditors are sleeping better now.....how is our credit rating doing??
$16.5 trillion in debt
all other preidents combined...$9.5 trillion
Obama in 4.5 years....$7 trillion....a President of historic proportions!!!!
Heh, heh, heh... nothing like just jumping up and down with false numbers to try and make an argument.Sorry spanky but repeating lies doesn't change their veracity.
I was joking when i called Obama a fiscal conservative...you can call it a lie, I called it a joke.....
Feel free to share your wisdom about how the debt and spending is good for us??? Many great civilizations have collapsed due to fiscal irresponsbility, or are we immune because Obama went to Harvard???
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:43 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
So should we have widespread government forced equality and pay the CEO the same as the factory worker???Great idea!! A recipe for mediocrity, but if it makes people feel better then sign me up.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:52 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
The rich got 121% of something?No wonder they are rich.
Look, enough of this class warfare BS, particularly that with mathmatical mobius equations in play.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:54 PM EST
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
In response to macnh1's comment:
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
In response to macnh1's comment:
Obams is a fiscal conservative and we didn't even know it.......I'm sure our creditors are sleeping better now.....how is our credit rating doing??
$16.5 trillion in debt
all other preidents combined...$9.5 trillion
Obama in 4.5 years....$7 trillion....a President of historic proportions!!!!
Heh, heh, heh... nothing like just jumping up and down with false numbers to try and make an argument.Sorry spanky but repeating lies doesn't change their veracity.
I was joking when i called Obama a fiscal conservative...you can call it a lie, I called it a joke.....
Feel free to share your wisdom about how the debt and spending is good for us??? Many great civilizations have collapsed due to fiscal irresponsbility, or are we immune because Obama went to Harvard???
Really, which 'Great Civilizations" collapsed because of fiscal irresponsibility?
Which great nations collapsed because they chose butter over bullets?
And as a point of fact:
You wingnuts have been predicting all sorts of finacial Armegeddons and not one has proven correct.
There was the hyper-inflation meme.... didn't happen.
Then it was the bond market and it's demise....US bonds still the most trusted investment in the world. Heck, people are paying us to lend them money.
There was the drill-baby-drill meme which had the opposite effect of fuel prices.
And then let's not forget the idea that cutting spending now in the midst of a slow recovery would spur growth....As the chart clearly points out, the federal gov't has been steadily taking money out of the economy and the result is a sideward slog.
We've had debt at 110% of GDP and the country then went into an economic boom.
CBO has projected the debt/GDP ration to be steady at 75% of GDP for the next decade. In fact they say that if there are no changes to current policy, that ratio will decline slightly.
Well, the CBO is wrong. you can't have essentially flat growth ( that means the same GDP year in year out), borrow more, and maintain the ratio. I suspect there is an error in their computatin' and ciperin'. -
Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:55 PM EST
In response to macnh1's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
So should we have widespread government forced equality and pay the CEO the same as the factory worker???
I didn't say that. You did. Nobody is suggesting anything that stupid.A measured shrinking of the gap would help, though. Greater access to affordable healthcare would help. Greater investment in infrastructure for those blue-collar jobs would help. Adherence to minimum wage laws and anti-discrimination laws would help. Inentives for worker re-training would help.
Complaining about the "47%" does NOT help.
In other words, "slightly gradual change we can believe in."
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 2:57 PM EST
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
Outlays, huh?
Obama the budget cutter...thanks for the laugh..
You get a free Obamaphone for your efforts...and an EBT card.
Federal revenues will climb roughly 8% this year, 10.5% next year and 12.3% the year after that. And from 2016-22, federal revenues are projected to increase an average of almost 6% a year, according to Congressional Budget Office data.
As a share of GDP, federal revenues will be 19% (and climbing) by 2017 â which is well in excess of the 17.9% average of the previous 60 years. In dollar terms, that means Washington will take in $220 billion more in 2017 alone than it would have if revenues-per-GDP were kept to the historic average.
Read More At IBD: No Doubt: Obama's Big Spending Will Mean More Tax Hikes on Everyone - Investors.com http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/020413-643105-obama-wants-more-and-more-taxes.Ummmm, ya OUTLAYS.
So what field are you dragging the goalposts to? Future revenues?
And what the heck does that have to do with the OP?
I am not sure, but I think outlays, based on the chart, are non-debt or entitlement spending. So, in reality, the chart shows that the part of the government intended to actually run the country is in decline, largely do to excessive borrowing.So, the left disproves it's own point right within it's own flawed attempt at proving it.
Brilliant!
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 3:03 PM EST
In response to skeeter20's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
The rich got 121% of something?No wonder they are rich.
Look, enough of this class warfare BS, particularly that with mathmatical mobius equations in play.
Dismiss and call it whatever you like. It's still a fact:From 2009 to 2011, average real income per family grew modestly by 1.7% (Table 1) but the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by 11.2% while bottom 99% incomes shrunk by 0.4%. Hence, the top 1% captured 121% of the income gains in the first two years of the recovery. From 2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated from 2010 to 2011. Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from 2010 to 2011.
How is it possible for the 1 percent to capture more than all of the nation’s income gains? The number is due to the fact that those at the bottom saw their incomes drop.
As you say, it's no wonder they're rich.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 3:10 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
From 2009 to 2011, average real income per family grew modestly by 1.7% (Table 1) but the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by 11.2% while bottom 99% incomes shrunk by 0.4%. Hence, the top 1% captured 121% of the income gains in the first two years of the recovery. From 2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated from 2010 to 2011. Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from 2010 to 2011.
How is it possible for the 1 percent to capture more than all of the nationâs income gains? The number is due to the fact that those at the bottom saw their incomes drop.
As you say, it's no wonder they're rich.
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 8:46 PM EST
In response to airborne-rgr's comment:
In response to Newtster's comment:
Cherry picking and statistical gyrations.
Are you now for cutting spending? LOL!
What is your point?
Anyway, your assertion of lower spending does not show up in WHITE HOUSE documents:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
I'd cut and paste the #s but it is too much of a pain in the .
It shows up in the documents if your looking at the correct ones.2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
National defense 20.7 18.8 20.1 19.6 18.9
Human resources 63.6 61.3 69.0 67.0 65.2
Physical resources 5.4 12.6 2.6 4.5 7.4
Net interest 8.5 5.3 5.7 6.4 5.9
Other functions 4.8 4.6 5.0 4.9 5.3
Undistributed offsetting receipts -2.9 -2.6 -2.4 -2.4 -2.6
Total, Federal outlays 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0
Are you serious...Those are the % of outlay of overall spending!!!!
let me put it in simple term
if you have to pay 10% of the bill this year of $500
and next year you pay 5% of the bill of $1500
Did you save more or spend more?
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Re: Domestic spending outlays have fallen in seven of the last nine quarters. Damn you, Obama
posted at 3/5/2013 8:57 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to skeeter20's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
Because GDP is also going up.
Hence the %-of-GDP relevant numbers.
However, since the end of the recession, the top 1% of earners has procured over 121% of the economic gains in that time.
Meanwhile, worker wages as a % of GDP are at their lowest levels ever.
The people work harder. The elite make more. The elite spend more. It's the american way.
The rich got 121% of something?No wonder they are rich.
Look, enough of this class warfare BS, particularly that with mathmatical mobius equations in play.
Dismiss and call it whatever you like. It's still a fact:From 2009 to 2011, average real income per family grew modestly by 1.7% (Table 1) but the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by 11.2% while bottom 99% incomes shrunk by 0.4%. Hence, the top 1% captured 121% of the income gains in the first two years of the recovery. From 2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated from 2010 to 2011. Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from 2010 to 2011.
How is it possible for the 1 percent to capture more than all of the nationâs income gains? The number is due to the fact that those at the bottom saw their incomes drop.
As you say, it's no wonder they're rich.
You must be blinded by hate,envy for the sucessful people in this country
The top 1% of people , most likely don't work but make their money from their investments.
You only want to look at when the top 1 % make money.. I'm not surprise, you been feed with the class warfare by Obama. Those evil rich dude are the reason you can make it in this country
BUT what about the year 2007-2008?
When the top 1% lost close to 20% of their income? (too bad I guess)
so do the math lost 20% gain 11.2% .... and not only that those greedy folks have to pay taxes on that 11.2% gain but can only get a 3,000 deduction on that 20% lost.....
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