Dozens of CIA operatives on the ground during Benghazi attack---Benghazi-gate returns

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    We will know the truth eventually.

    This administration is masterful at stalling!

     
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    Did you watch the CNN Report last night?

     

     

    OK on point 1, its a stretch to get all the way to that point, but I my suspicions look that way.

    It was clear that all the other US allies bailed out due to security and we stayed, it was clear Steven's wanted more seecurity and he didn't get it.

    Obama has bailed out of the entire region not one country, we are in full retreat not just an individual tacticle retreat.

    Bush has been blamed for 911 since the get go by many left posters.

     

     




     

    So now the interventionists under Bush are isolationists under Obama.

    Funny how politics can warp your ideology so easily.



    ...and that random statement was in response to what?????????

     
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    I believe the rescue response was held back, because it would have been counter to the talking point that Al Qaeda was on the run.

     

     


     

     

    Like I said before, being ignorant isn't a crime but striving to remain so is embarassing.

    The WSJ, bastion of all things neo-con, reported that of the 10 security operatives at the CIA compound, 7 were sent to the annex. That's 70% of the security!

    WSJ then reported that by breaking cover from the CIA compound to rush to the annex, they ultimately put the CIA annex at risk and inadvertantly led the attackers back to the CIA compund and were attacked again.

    Meanwhile ANOTHER security team was sent from Tripoli as reinforcements.

     

    You reall have to be an ideological imbecile to ignore the facts, reported 8 months ago, by virtually every news organization in the country.

     



    Just like you ignoring every other point...and I still have a problem with the Warren Commission magic bullet.  

    Did you watch the CNN report last night?

     



    If you acknowledge that help was sent to the consulate, you don't really have a point.  Certainly nothing new.  Just more whining about the video, that now, given the charges against Abu Kattalla, looks once again like an impetus to the attack.

     

     

     
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    I believe the rescue response was held back, because it would have been counter to the talking point that Al Qaeda was on the run.

     

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    Like I said before, being ignorant isn't a crime but striving to remain so is embarassing.

    The WSJ, bastion of all things neo-con, reported that of the 10 security operatives at the CIA compound, 7 were sent to the annex. That's 70% of the security!

    WSJ then reported that by breaking cover from the CIA compound to rush to the annex, they ultimately put the CIA annex at risk and inadvertantly led the attackers back to the CIA compund and were attacked again.

    Meanwhile ANOTHER security team was sent from Tripoli as reinforcements.

     

    You reall have to be an ideological imbecile to ignore the facts, reported 8 months ago, by virtually every news organization in the country.

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    Just like you ignoring every other point...and I still have a problem with the Warren Commission magic bullet.  

    Did you watch the CNN report last night?

     

     




     

    You're the one who keeps repeating the lie that a rescue response was held back.

    Where, in any of the sources you posted, does anyone report that?

    And I'm not talking about some ideological imebecile making his own "conclusion" based on nothing but his/her hate of all things Obama.

    Where are any facts, in any of your sources to back up your dumb claim of 'no rescue response'?



    OK that's just one of numerous issues with Benghazi.

     
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    "Charges were filed against the attackers Genius.  Among them was Ahmed Abu Khattala, quoted below in a Reuters interview from October...

    "The film which insulted the Prophet was a direct attack on our values and if America wants good relations with the Muslim world it needs to do so with respect," Abu Khattala said. "If they want to do it with force, they will be met with force."

    This is going to be so satisfying when it all comes back to the video.  Like that time Karl Rove was wandering around Fox Studios with his jaw on the ground, trying to make sense of the Ohio returns."

     

     

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    " the attack was neither spontaneous nor the result of an Internet video."

     

     

     

    So what's it come to when we reject a terrorist's own statement that the attack was because of a video...in order to claim it was not?

     

     

     




     

     

    Good question.  The "terrorist", Ahmed Katalla, has been a suspect for 10 months now.  Since the attack Sep/2012, he has sat by the pool sipping martinis, granting interviews to CNN, the NY times, Washington Post, and many other media outlets around the world. 

    He seems much more credible than say General Patreaus or CIA agents on the ground, or even the FBI.

    (eye roll)




     

     

    A terrorist who attacks a U.S. consulate and says that he did so because of the video is lying to protect Obama, President of the U.S., the same country which he attacked.

    I see.

     

     

     

    Perhaps Gingrich did build his moon colony after all....    

     

     

     




     

     

    Think a little deeper.............I know it`s hard for you.  Critical thinking is tough for Independents (LOL)

    Do you really believe Ahmed, left alone for 10 months, granting countless interviews to LEFT wing media outlets only..........and NOW, miraculously charged (not arrested BTW) is credible and "protecting Obama"?   And.........is that what you think congressional leaders doing these investigations, the American people that want the truth, and the reasonable people here at BDC that kick your a $$ very day believe?

    Freakin delusional man!

     



    Reuters is a left-wing media outlet?  Seriously?  It really has to have Rupert Murdoch's fingerprints on it for you to believe it, doesn't it?

     

    I'm guessing it's difficult to get the fledgling Libyan government to hand over a militia head (one of the guys responsible for toppling Ghaddaffi) to the US Government.  

     

     




     

    Still trying to see where his interviews with CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, and AlJeezeera has anyhting to do with Reuters?

     



    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/18/us-libya-consulate-attack-idUSBRE89H19P20121018

     
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    You're the one who keeps repeating the lie that a rescue response was held back.

    Where, in any of the sources you posted, does anyone report that?

    And I'm not talking about some ideological imebecile making his own "conclusion" based on nothing but his/her hate of all things Obama.

    Where are any facts, in any of your sources to back up your dumb claim of 'no rescue response'?

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    OK that's just one of numerous issues with Benghazi.

     




     

    I'll defer to slomag on that one:

    If you acknowledge that help was sent to the consulate, you don't really have a point.  Certainly nothing new.  Just more whining about the video, that now, given the charges against Abu Kattalla, looks once again like an impetus to the attack.



    Abu Kattalla has had a long time to develop his story while doing interviews with new agencies.  There are a lot of problems with what went wrong with Benghazi and the final accusation about a stand down order may be a stretch, but if that is the only problem that you have with the Beghazi story you are just a hopeless partisan.

     
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    CNN spent an hour of prime time Tuesday night to air a special anchored by Erin Burnett, “The Truth about Benghazi.” They claimed to have learned two vital lessons from their supposedly extensive investigation of that tragedy: It must never happen again, and politics trumped patriotism.

    Really? That’s it? Are you kidding? The smiling, earnest naivete of Ms. Burnett suggested a graduate student who worked, you know, like really hard at the library all weekend — but apparently didn’t get within spitting distance of a reasonable conclusion.

    First of all, Ms. Burnett may have noticed that her program aired just as American embassies in the Mideast were shuttered against a resurgent terrorist threat that Susan E. (Second Time’s the Charm) Rice is crisis-managing in her debut as national security adviser. Or that Vice President Joe Biden’s election-year litany — al Qaeda is dead and General Motors is alive — has been updated. Now it seems that al Qaeda is alive, and Detroit has gone belly-up.

    Do those developments really support the conclusion that the aftermath of Benghazi was all about election-year politics, and no one should be held responsible? Those assertions also resemble the conclusions of the Accountability Review Board, chaired by retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering and now widely regarded as a whitewash. You may remember that no one over at State walked the plank or was even seriously disciplined as a result of all Mr. Pickering’s fact-finding.

    Like CNN on Wednesday evening, the review board made reasonable noises, but couldn’t reach a conclusion any better than a proverbial room full of economists. Cynical observers such as, say, Rep. Darrell E. Issa have even voiced suspicions that the main purpose of the board was to provide political cover for State Department bureaucrats and their esteemed then-secretary, Hillary Rodham Clinton. To ensure scrupulous objectivity, CNN even interviewed Mr. Issa — but mostly asked him about the use of Benghazi as a Republican fundraiser or — even worse — a poison pill against a future presidential run by Mrs. Clinton.

    The greatest surprise was that CNN was bold enough to air a special on Benghazi — another of the “phony scandals” President Obama again criticized during a campaign-style appearance on Tuesday. However, why would the network — purporting to set out the whole truth on the tragedy — somehow overlook the work of its own reporter, Jake Tapper? On Aug. 1, Mr. Tapper reported, “Sources now tell CNN dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.” The hush-ups have included the aggressive use of polygraphs and even, according to Rep. Frank R. Wolf, Virginia Republican, the use of nondisclosure agreements. Mr. Tapper even suggested that the reason behind the secrecy may have been that “the U.S. agencies operating in Benghazi were secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.”

    If that’s true, then Benghazi may not be Watergate at all but Iran-Contra, the arms scandal that nearly ended the presidency of Ronald Reagan. If the Benghazi diplomatic facility was actually being used to warehouse arms shipments to Syrian rebels, then that fact immediately raises a whole new set of issues. Among the most important: Were those arms shipments legal and did they occur within the guidelines set by Congress? Was Congress even informed that Operation Fast and Furious was being extended mysteriously to Syrian rebels? If the United States was mounting such a sensitive operation — with life-and-death implications for many different actors and agendas — then why on earth was that facility left so badly unprotected? While intelligence often tends to be ambiguous, defending a uniquely sensitive facility is Job One, especially against a background of steadily rising violence. On Sept. 11, it should have been a no-brainer.

    Former CIA Director Michael V. Hayden called interagency coordination “team ball” but refused to second-guess those involved, either the military forces who took 24 hours to get boots on the ground or the FBI, which took a full month to arrive. At what point do we connect the dots and ask: Who is the chief executive that all these government departments work for? Mr. Obama even suggested the answer when he defended Mrs. Rice last fall, urging her congressional critics to “have that discussion with me.” OK, Mr. President, why not discuss it with a Watergate-style investigation that Mr. Wolf is calling for?

    Col. Ken Allard, retired from the Army, is a former NBC News military analyst and author on national security issues.

     

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/8/a-generous-second-coat-of-the-benghazi-whitewash/

     
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    what people need to remember is the admin brought all the extra scrutiny on itself by releasing silly comments and contridicting people onsite with their cover up!

     
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    Moderator.. One might suspect you cross the line in deleting posts. Even ones that do not voilate your policy. Your sensitivity on topics related to President Obamas blatant failures appears obvious.

    Care to qualify or will you remain behind the curtain?

     
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    Moderator.. One might suspect you cross the line in deleting posts. Even ones that do not voilate your policy. Your sensitivity on topics related to President Obamas blatant failures appears obvious.

    Care to qualify or will you remain behind the curtain?




    "Concerned" must be on a watch list or something. It appears slang and name calling will not be tolerated by the BDC. lol

     
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    I agree - the moderating of the forums is getting ridiculous.

     
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    So who and what got pulled.

    ...the man who really counts in the world is the doer,...  TR 1891

     
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