Duck Dynasty's Robertson exposes left wing hypocrisy

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    Duck Dynasty's Robertson exposes left wing hypocrisy

    First of all, I didn't know that he was no longer in The Band.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-indefinite-666808

    Somehow, the people who castigated heterosexuals for criticizing the behavior of homosexuals are now doing the same to those who want to be intimate with other beings of Mother Nature. Suddenly now it is OK to judge others by their sexual preferences?

    What does it hurt you if some guy has a loving relationship with his barnyard animals? Who are you to judge such people?

    If Robertson was a muslim, they wouldn't have touched him with a 10-foot pole.

    Aside from all that, is it not illegal for an employer to discriminate against someone because of their religious beliefs. Robertson made no remarks against people, only behaviors. Legally speaking it could be that Robertson is not an employee but a contractor which could make A&E's PATHETIC action legal. 

    What happened to valuing diversity? I guess that means only valuing a diversity of LIBRULS and/or their opinions.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Hansoribrother,

    "Legally speaking it could be that Robertson is not an employee but a contractor which could make A&E's PATHETIC action legal. "

     

    Did you mean to say "...which could make A&E's PATHETIC action illegal."?



    No, I think that he would have to be an employee for this action to be illegal and discriminatory. You can't fire someone based upon their religious beliefs. But if he is a contractor and has a contract that allows him to be suspended, terminated, etc, then I am guessing the A&E is within their rights to dismiss the guy, as dumb as that might be.

    I should add that I have been forced to watch the show a few times and it is contrived and fake. The fact it is the #1 show on cable is a sign of moral decay in this country! :)

     
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    He wasn't disciplined for his religion, he was disciplined because as an employee of A&E, he made comments that are damaging to an A&E brand, Duck Dynasty, while promoting A&E programming.  This happens all the time, and the hypocrisy of the left is really the hypocrisy of the right, because just a few weeks ago conservatives were up in arms calling for MSNBC to fire Alec Baldwin and Martin Bashir for comments they both made.  

    The idea that Phil Robertson was discriminated against because of his religion is absurd.  People in the media are routinely fired for making insensitive remarks while under contract.  

     
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    He wasn't disciplined for his religion, he was disciplined because as an employee of A&E, he made comments that are damaging to an A&E brand, Duck Dynasty, while promoting A&E programming.  This happens all the time, and the hypocrisy of the left is really the hypocrisy of the right, because just a few weeks ago conservatives were up in arms calling for MSNBC to fire Alec Baldwin and Martin Bashir for comments they both made.  

    The idea that Phil Robertson was discriminated against because of his religion is absurd.  People in the media are routinely fired for making insensitive remarks while under contract.  



    If you  read what he said he made no statements about any person. He stated his opinion on behavior as guided by his religion.. Example:

    "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."

    Virtually every religion has some nonsense like that. It doesn't matter if it offends, it is his religion. If he were an employees and fired it woould certainly be possible to say he wwas fired for his religious beliefs.

    Bashir made offensive remarks about an individual, describing offensive actions. Of course it took a week or more for him to resign while A&E gave Robertson the axe immediately.

    As far as A&E's actions, I do not think he is an employee and he is under some contract which probably allows A&E to give hhim the boot for any reason they want.

    There are haters on both sides of the aisle. The laftwing haters are in the White House (eg. Podesta) and Congress (too many to mention).

     
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    It doesn't matter that his comments werent directed at a particular person. He directed them at a group of people.  He is welcome to his religion beliefs and free to express them however he wants, however he may not be welcome to to do so while under the banner of his employer while representing their brand.   

     

     
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    He wasn't disciplined for his religion, he was disciplined because as an employee of A&E, he made comments that are damaging to an A&E brand, Duck Dynasty, while promoting A&E programming.  This happens all the time, and the hypocrisy of the left is really the hypocrisy of the right, because just a few weeks ago conservatives were up in arms calling for MSNBC to fire Alec Baldwin and Martin Bashir for comments they both made.  

    The idea that Phil Robertson was discriminated against because of his religion is absurd.  People in the media are routinely fired for making insensitive remarks while under contract.  

     



    If you  read what he said he made no statements about any person. He stated his opinion on behavior as guided by his religion.. Example:

     

    "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."

    Virtually every religion has some nonsense like that. It doesn't matter if it offends, it is his religion. If he were an employees and fired it woould certainly be possible to say he wwas fired for his religious beliefs.

    Bashir made offensive remarks about an individual, describing offensive actions. Of course it took a week or more for him to resign while A&E gave Robertson the axe immediately.

    As far as A&E's actions, I do not think he is an employee and he is under some contract which probably allows A&E to give hhim the boot for any reason they want.

    There are haters on both sides of the aisle. The laftwing haters are in the White House (eg. Podesta) and Congress (too many to mention).

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    There was more to the quote.....something about a comparison of homosexuality to beastiality.

     
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    He wasn't disciplined for his religion, he was disciplined because as an employee of A&E, he made comments that are damaging to an A&E brand, Duck Dynasty, while promoting A&E programming.  This happens all the time, and the hypocrisy of the left is really the hypocrisy of the right, because just a few weeks ago conservatives were up in arms calling for MSNBC to fire Alec Baldwin and Martin Bashir for comments they both made.  

    The idea that Phil Robertson was discriminated against because of his religion is absurd.  People in the media are routinely fired for making insensitive remarks while under contract.  

     



    If you  read what he said he made no statements about any person. He stated his opinion on behavior as guided by his religion.. Example:

     

    "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."

    Virtually every religion has some nonsense like that. It doesn't matter if it offends, it is his religion. If he were an employees and fired it woould certainly be possible to say he wwas fired for his religious beliefs.

    Bashir made offensive remarks about an individual, describing offensive actions. Of course it took a week or more for him to resign while A&E gave Robertson the axe immediately.

    As far as A&E's actions, I do not think he is an employee and he is under some contract which probably allows A&E to give hhim the boot for any reason they want.

    There are haters on both sides of the aisle. The laftwing haters are in the White House (eg. Podesta) and Congress (too many to mention).

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    There was more to the quote.....something about a comparison of homosexuality to beastiality.

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    In what way did he compare homosexuality to beastiality?

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    One of the problems I have with today's society. It's gotten to the point where no matter what is said there will be someone who is offended. Personally I think most of it is faux outrage. People love to have something to complain about. 

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

     
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    The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with.

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

     
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    The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with.

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    No one need tolerate bigotry and stupidity even though every individual has a right to be bigoted and stupid if they so chose.   

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

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    They weren't hurt because they acted swiftly to rectify the problem.  Dog the Bounty Hunter was off the air for almost a year, before being brought back.  Now Phil's comments don't rise to that level of severity in my mind, so the hiatus would likely be even shorter if the family doesn't walk away completely.  

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

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    They won't run too far from this cash cow. I'm sure ratings will be way up do to this, and advertisers love huge ratings. They too won't run very far. 

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

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    They weren't hurt because they acted swiftly to rectify the problem.  Dog the Bounty Hunter was off the air for almost a year, before being brought back.  Now Phil's comments don't rise to that level of severity in my mind, so the hiatus would likely be even shorter if the family doesn't walk away completely.  

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    They still brought back a racist and it didn't hurt them. 

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 



    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

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    They weren't hurt because they acted swiftly to rectify the problem.  Dog the Bounty Hunter was off the air for almost a year, before being brought back.  Now Phil's comments don't rise to that level of severity in my mind, so the hiatus would likely be even shorter if the family doesn't walk away completely.  

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    They still brought back a racist and it didn't hurt them. 

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    It didn't hurt them for two reasons 1) there was a swift punishment meted out and 2) Dog claimed to have been reformed and issued numerous apologies.  

    Americans tend to be a forgiving bunch if a person makes amends and avoids the same trouble going forward.  Mark Sanford was forced out of office for having an affair, a few years later he comes back talks about what happens/makes his amends and gets elected to a new office.  Anthony Wiener gets caught in a sexting scandal, loses his job, comes back a while later after apologizing and making amends and GETS CAUGHT DOING THE SAME THING, and loses his election bid in spectacular fashion.  

    Phil Robertson has already apologized, and it was a pretty good apology, his family has chimed in and acknowedged his poor judgement so this issue will be largely done by next week and the two parties can figure out how to move forward.  It isn't in eithers interest to blow up the whole enterprise, so there will be a solution which would probably be Phil being mysteriously absent in a few episodes.  

     
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    Why do right wingers think Freedom of Speech means they can say anything they want without repercussions?  Freedom of Speech means you can say what you want without fear of repercussions from the Government.

     
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    I should add that I have been forced to watch the show a few times and it is contrived and fake. The fact it is the #1 show on cable is a sign of moral decay in this country! :)

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    A fact that would seem to reflect poorly upon its stars as well as A&E...

    ...at the least for perpetuating unfair stereotypes against rural southern folk, no...?

     

     

     
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    thought crimes need to be prosecuted NOW!!!!

     
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    So really, who's been injured here?  Really, who has been hurt?  This is the whole point.  We're talking about political correctness, a bunch of words.  Who really has been harmed here, at the end of the day? Nobody but Phil Robertson. 

     

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    A&E's intellectual property is harmed.  In the same way you would be harmed if you owned a company and one of your employees made similar comments to the media, while wearing your company uniform.  Phil wasn't interviewed because GQ wanted to get time with some random dude who like to hunt, he was interviewed because he one of the cast members of the A&E property Duck Dynasty.    The resulting backlash potentially scares of sponsors, which affects the A&E's immediate bottom line, and damages the brand so that it may be less profitable in the future.  

     

    This is no different than when A&E put Dog The Bounty HUnter on hiatus after the recordings of that show's star surfaced with him calling black people the n word. 

     

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    I think the fact that Dog the Bounty Hunter came back on their station proves they'll be just fine. A&E will not be hurt by this...certainly not in the long term. They'll be just fine.

     

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    They weren't hurt because they acted swiftly to rectify the problem.  Dog the Bounty Hunter was off the air for almost a year, before being brought back.  Now Phil's comments don't rise to that level of severity in my mind, so the hiatus would likely be even shorter if the family doesn't walk away completely.  

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    They still brought back a racist and it didn't hurt them. 

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    It didn't hurt them for two reasons 1) there was a swift punishment meted out and 2) Dog claimed to have been reformed and issued numerous apologies.  

    Americans tend to be a forgiving bunch if a person makes amends and avoids the same trouble going forward.  Mark Sanford was forced out of office for having an affair, a few years later he comes back talks about what happens/makes his amends and gets elected to a new office.  Anthony Wiener gets caught in a sexting scandal, loses his job, comes back a while later after apologizing and making amends and GETS CAUGHT DOING THE SAME THING, and loses his election bid in spectacular fashion.  

    Phil Robertson has already apologized, and it was a pretty good apology, his family has chimed in and acknowedged his poor judgement so this issue will be largely done by next week and the two parties can figure out how to move forward.  It isn't in eithers interest to blow up the whole enterprise, so there will be a solution which would probably be Phil being mysteriously absent in a few episodes.  

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    Right...bottomline....they won't get hurt by this. End of story.

     
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