Even Seniors are turning on Obamacare

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    Even Seniors are turning on Obamacare

    Seems like someone found another nice little nugget tucked into Obamcare:

    "Currently, taxpayers can take a federal income tax deduction for medical expenses that exceed 7.5 percent of their adjusted gross income," a Barber aide said in explaining why the congressman wants to keep the threshold for deducting medical expenses at 7.5 percent.

    "As part of health care reform, this year that threshold is to be raised to 10 percent for taxpayers under age 65. In 2017, the increase also will apply to taxpayers 65 years of age and older," a background document said.

    time to repeal this dog.

     
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    Seems like someone found another nice little nugget tucked into Obamcare:

    "Currently, taxpayers can take a federal income tax deduction for medical expenses that exceed 7.5 percent of their adjusted gross income," a Barber aide said in explaining why the congressman wants to keep the threshold for deducting medical expenses at 7.5 percent.

    "As part of health care reform, this year that threshold is to be raised to 10 percent for taxpayers under age 65. In 2017, the increase also will apply to taxpayers 65 years of age and older," a background document said.

    time to repeal this dog.



    heh skeeter-

    The GOP has voted to "repeal this dog" 40 times last time I checked. They voted to so much they should have just included it right after the pledge of allegiance every day they were in session.

    Nice hunting though. But could you also have hunted for the provisions voters clearly want to have. For example, voters clearly want the pre-existing conditions provision to stay put. They also want other provisions such as no caps on lifetime benefits; no throwing someone off if they get sick; and being able to keep your child on through the age of 26.

    I do not think you can unring the bell on these health care provisions, as well as many others.

     
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    heh skeeter-

    The GOP has voted to "repeal this dog" 40 times last time I checked. They voted to so much they should have just included it right after the pledge of allegiance every day they were in session.


     You do not give up on doing the right thing!

     
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    heh skeeter-

     

    The GOP has voted to "repeal this dog" 40 times last time I checked. They voted to so much they should have just included it right after the pledge of allegiance every day they were in session.

     

     


     You do not give up on doing the right thing!

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    tvoter,

    You bet.

     
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    Seems like someone found another nice little nugget tucked into Obamcare:

    "Currently, taxpayers can take a federal income tax deduction for medical expenses that exceed 7.5 percent of their adjusted gross income," a Barber aide said in explaining why the congressman wants to keep the threshold for deducting medical expenses at 7.5 percent.

    "As part of health care reform, this year that threshold is to be raised to 10 percent for taxpayers under age 65. In 2017, the increase also will apply to taxpayers 65 years of age and older," a background document said.

    time to repeal this dog.

     



    heh skeeter-

     

    The GOP has voted to "repeal this dog" 40 times last time I checked. They voted to so much they should have just included it right after the pledge of allegiance every day they were in session.

    Nice hunting though. But could you also have hunted for the provisions voters clearly want to have. For example, voters clearly want the pre-existing conditions provision to stay put. They also want other provisions such as no caps on lifetime benefits; no throwing someone off if they get sick; and being able to keep your child on through the age of 26.

    I do not think you can unring the bell on these health care provisions, as well as many others.

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    Nothing good in Obamacare.  It is an atrocity.

    But, I hear you on not being able to unring the bell. using the term "Heath care provisions" is like nails on a chalk board, however.

    as far as the provision people supposedly like:

    parents are trapped into having their children on their health care until 26 because Obama has not fixed the economy. I don't view this as a desired provision as much as parents being driven into a corner, and this is what government coughs up.  So, "like" is not really the right term here.

    not throwing someone off if they get sick: I question whether this really happened a lot. However, half a point ther, and you don't need Obamacare to fix that.

    no caps on lifetime benefits is welfare, plain and simple.  If you want a plan without lifetime caps, buy one.  Don't saddle me with the cost of your choices.

    to steal a phrase: those who are willing to give up a little freedom for a little healthcare, deserve neither.

     
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    heh skeeter-

     

     

    The GOP has voted to "repeal this dog" 40 times last time I checked. They voted to so much they should have just included it right after the pledge of allegiance every day they were in session.

     

     

     

     


     You do not give up on doing the right thing!

     



    41st time is the charm!

     

    Why are the Democrats standing in the way of the will of the American people?

     

     
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    We all know what happens when government programs get beyond their break-in phase. They usually work.  Remember, the GOP was also against effective government programs like Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, and Workers Compensation.

    It's not the failure of government programs that frightens the GOP,  it's the ever-present threat of success. 

     
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    We all know what happens when government programs get beyond their break-in phase. They usually work.  Remember, the GOP was also against effective government programs like Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, and Workers Compensation.

    It's not the failure of government programs that frightens the GOP,  it's the ever-present threat of success. 



    None of those programs are as effective as as free and vibrant economy.

    Funny definition of success you have:legislatively and by executive order choke off everything but the government solution, and call what is left "success".

     
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    I feel all but a small minority would like to go back to the old system of 2009. No doubt the old system needed to be tweeked, but obamacare is just a complete mess in need of a complete over hal. 

    Dem's in control of all three branches of government, I hope the American people have learned their lesson.

     
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    I feel all but a small minority would like to go back to the old system of 2009. No doubt the old system needed to be tweeked, but obamacare is just a complete mess in need of a complete over hal. 

    Dem's in control of all three branches of government, I hope the American people have learned their lesson.



    Get ready because its probably going to happen again. The tea partiers have done more to hurt the republican brand then bush did throughout his entire presidency. They're the reason the senate is still blue.

     
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    I feel all but a small minority would like to go back to the old system of 2009. No doubt the old system needed to be tweeked, but obamacare is just a complete mess in need of a complete over hal. 

    Dem's in control of all three branches of government, I hope the American people have learned their lesson.

    Get ready because its probably going to happen again. The tea partiers have done more to hurt the republican brand then bush did throughout his entire presidency. They're the reason the senate is still blue.

     




    Not so sure, Obamacare is going to hurt them in 2014. Also after two terms of a democrat Presisident the American people will be getting democrat fatigue. IMO.

     
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    Why are the Democrats standing in the way of the will of the American people?

     


    The american people want it fixed, not repealed, by a pretty good margin...

     

     
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    Dem's in control of all three branches of government, I hope the American people have learned their lesson.



    Dems control the Supreme Court?

    Really?!?

     

     

     
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    We all know what happens when government programs get beyond their break-in phase. They usually work.  Remember, the GOP was also against effective government programs like Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, and Workers Compensation.

    It's not the failure of government programs that frightens the GOP,  it's the ever-present threat of success. 

     



    None of those programs are as effective as as free and vibrant economy.

     

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    Right.

    Because a "free and vibrant economy" (whatever that is) should be able to let its old people starve homeless without medical care and fire people who get sick or injured on the job.

    "Free" for whom, exactly...?? 

     

     
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    Because a "free and vibrant economy" (whatever that is) should be able to let its old people starve homeless without medical care and fire people who get sick or injured on the job.

    "Free" for whom, exactly...?? 

     

     



    Throw out the meaningless democrat platform fear tactic lies in ^^^ post and you end up with; "free and vibrant economy"

     

     
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    Because a "free and vibrant economy" (whatever that is) should be able to let its old people starve homeless without medical care and fire people who get sick or injured on the job.

    "Free" for whom, exactly...?? 

     

     



    Throw out the meaningless democrat platform fear tactic lies in ^^^ post and you end up with; "free and vibrant economy"

     



    Blame skeeter.  He's the one throwing out meaningless platitudes like "free and vibrant economy"...

    ...which is neither "free" nor "vibrant" when so many people are excluded from the health care market, BTW.

     

     
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    Why are the Democrats standing in the way of the will of the American people?

     

     


    The american people want it fixed, not repealed, by a pretty good margin...

     

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    Show us.  I don't believe you.

     
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    [QUOTE]Dem's in control of all three branches of government



    Uh...what?

     

     

    Obama is a Democrat, yes.

    Democrats have a senate majority, yes, but Rs have a house majority. So that's balanced.

    The Supreme Court has 4 lib, 4 con, 1 swing justice...  

     

     

    What you talkin' bout?

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    Tbe republicans control one out of three branches of government.  That's not balanced.

     

     
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    [QUOTE]Dem's in control of all three branches of government



    Uh...what?

     

     

     

    Obama is a Democrat, yes.

    Democrats have a senate majority, yes, but Rs have a house majority. So that's balanced.

    The Supreme Court has 4 lib, 4 con, 1 swing justice...  

     

     

    What you talkin' bout?

     

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    Tbe republicans control one out of three branches of government.  That's not balanced.

     

     

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    skeeter,

    Three branches of government.

    The Democrats control the Executive branch.

    Congress is bi-chamberal. The GOP controls the House; The Democrats control the Senate. Neither party controls Congress right now.

    As for the Judicial branch, you are looking at it as conservative, liberal and a swing vote versus by party. Again, split 4-4-1 pretty much.

    Looking at the above, our federal government is currently pretty balanced.

     
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    [QUOTE]Dem's in control of all three branches of government



    Uh...what?

     

     

     

     

    Obama is a Democrat, yes.

    Democrats have a senate majority, yes, but Rs have a house majority. So that's balanced.

    The Supreme Court has 4 lib, 4 con, 1 swing justice...  

     

     

    What you talkin' bout?

     

     

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    Tbe republicans control one out of three branches of government.  That's not balanced.

     

     

     

     

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    skeeter,

     

    Three branches of government.

    The Democrats control the Executive branch.

    Congress is bi-chamberal. The GOP controls the House; The Democrats control the Senate. Neither party controls Congress right now.

    As for the Judicial branch, you are looking at it as conservative, liberal and a swing vote versus by party. Again, split 4-4-1 pretty much.

    Looking at the above, our federal government is currently pretty balanced.

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    bad typing on my part. I meant to say one half of one of three branches.

    and, government works best for the people if it is balanced enough to be gridlocked.

     
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