Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/10/2012 11:10 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case : Hey moron, it's msobstinate (who really isn't a female by the way) who is jamming up the boards.
    Posted by airborne-rgr

    airborne:

    Thank you for your post.

     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 8:28 AM EDT

    Are you saying that andiejen is airborne?

    Anyhow, looks like it's time to pay attention to what's going on in the real pit again.  The dog on which some here have bet is doing some interesting maneuvers.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 10:01 AM EDT

    I think we need a time out!!!!!
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 10:20 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In response to "Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case": I think the main point is that this is an annonymous forum, there is no way for us to know for fact if anyone is a Doctor, Lawyer, or Engineer.
    Posted by msobstinate99

    To the point, why would anyone on an anonymous discussion forum care to know about the personal lives of it's members or even comment on it. Sticking to the issues makes things much simpler.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 10:28 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    Are you saying that andiejen is airborne? Anyhow, looks like it's time to pay attention to what's going on in the real pit again.  The dog on which some here have bet is doing some interesting maneuvers.
    Posted by Firewind

    Is that code for something? Care to explain the game to the rest of us?
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 2:52 PM EDT

    Update: To be charged. Charges unknown.

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    UPDATE: Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey will soon announce that she is charging George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unnamed law enforcement official close to the investigation tells the Washington Post.

    The announcement could come as early as Wednesday afternoon, although it is not yet clear exactly what charge(s) Zimmerman will face.

    Earlier this week, Corey said that she would likely make an announcement concerning her investigation by the end of the week.

    Wednesday, April 11: According to George Zimmerman's now former attorneys, the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin has been pushed "a little bit over the edge" by the national scrutiny that has forced him into hiding.

    Defense attorney Hal Uhrig said Wednesday that Zimmerman has lost weight and is possibly "emotionally crippled by virtue of the pressure of this case," the Associated Press reports.

    Uhrig and Craig Sonner, the two men who had been representing Zimmerman, announced Tuesday that they will no longer do so after he failed to follow their advice and broke off contact.

    On Wednesday, Sonner said that while he is no longer representing Zimmerman, he believes his former client's claims of self defense. "I believe that he's gotten a raw deal from the media, that the media has tried to convict him wrongfully," Sonner said on CNN. "When the facts come out, it'll show he acted in self-defense, that the police department made the proper decision in not arresting him, as there was not probable cause to make the arrest."

    Meanwhile, the special prosecutor assigned to the case announced Tuesday that she will make an announcement about her investigation in the next 72 hours, CNN reports. While it is unclear exactly what she will announce, most observers believe it will be concerning whether or not Zimmerman will face charges in Martin's death.

    http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/04/10/zimmerman_donations_for_defense_in_trayvon_martin_case_florida_neighborhood_watchdog_solicits_donations_via_paypal_on_website.html
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 2:54 PM EDT

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    In response to "Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case": You're kidding, right? That was the airborne post you wanted me to request? Good one andie. With that being said, back to the OP. it looks like the lead prosecutor has some new evidence, which will indeed send the talkies into full spin today.
    Posted by msobstinate99

    msobstinate:

    Since you asked, that is is not the post airborne posted before. That one was far longer and as I said before was a post directed to you. I highly doubt he deleted it on his own, esp. considering his new post.

    I see airborne's new post was removed as well. But this time it was captured in my post. So, to another point a certain poster keeps harping on, someone on this thread is indeed using the the abuse button on airborne's posts, and you can be sure it is not me. So maybe that poster should recognize the hypocrisy, liberal posts are being removing right before our eyes, and give it a rest.

    He might also realize that maybe his posts get removed not because he is a conservative, but because they are filed with profanity much of time as well as excessive personal attacks.

    He might think that is fun, but not everybody does. Nor does everybody comes here to have "fun'".

     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 2:55 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:


     To the point, why would anyone on an anonymous discussion forum care to know about the personal lives of it's members or even comment on it.

    Posted by Figment



    If we're discussing global warming, I'd much prefer a scientist working in the field to a financial consultant.

    If we're discussing a mandate that a certain heart procedure must be covered, I'd much prefer a heart surgeon or someone from the health care field to a dairy farmer.

    And if we're discussing guitars, I'd much rather listen to people who have been using them for decades, rather than a ventriloquist!

    And if we're discussing a point of criminal law, I'd much prefer if people would listen more closely to a criminal defense lawyer than a structural engineer!

    If you happen to have expertise, your opinion carries more weight. Or should.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 3:08 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case : Is that code for something? Care to explain the game to the rest of us?
    Posted by Figment


    The sideshow had become the main show here, while Mr. Zimmerman was beginning to do some interesting maneuvers.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 3:14 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case : The sideshow had become the main show here, while Mr. Zimmerman was beginning to do some interesting maneuvers.
    Posted by Firewind

    Firewind:

    Agreed. And I am sorry for my part. Not as an excuse, but as a reason, ever since jmel's thread was removed, he, Pink2 and msobstinate have been all over me in the forums. 

    I will go back to ignoring them as best as I can.

     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 3:36 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    He might also realize that maybe his posts get removed not because he is a conservative, but because they are filed with profanity much of time as well as excessive personal attacks
    Posted by andiejen


    imo, whoever is doing that should stop. To my mind, it is no individual poster's role to monitor language or attacks.



    f**k f**k f**kity f**k f**k. Also, damn crappity crap crap. Damnit.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 4:04 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case : imo, whoever is doing that should stop. To my mind, it is no individual poster's role to monitor language or attacks. f**k f**k f**kity f**k f**k. Also, damn crappity crap crap. Damnit.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    WDYWN:

    I know that is your opinion. You and I have had that discussion. 

    But there is a difference if it is aimed at me. I feel it is my decision how to handle those posts. A monitor would be reporting posts not directed at them.

    Also, jmel tried very hard in his thread, and since, to convince anyone who would listen that only one person was reporting posts. I knew that was not correct. I had seen too many liberal posts removed. And on this thread airborne's last 2 posts were removed.

    I assume you dislike hypocrisy. It is screaming on this issue. It is now obvious to anyone paying attention that there are several people using the abuse button. 

    I know you would handle jmel in a different way if he was on your back. I respect you as a poster very much, but we have different styles. 

    So hopefully, the majority of us will now stick to whatever the topic is from here on. 
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 4:16 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case : WDYWN: I know that is your opinion. You and I have had that discussion.  But there is a difference if it is aimed at me. I feel it is my decision how to handle those posts. A monitor would be reporting posts not directed at them. Also, jmel tried very hard in his thread, and since, to convince anyone who would listen that only one person was reporting posts. I knew that was not correct. I had seen to many liberal posts removed. And on this thread airborne's last 2 posts were removed. I assume you dislike hypocrisy. It is screaming on this issue. It is now obvious to anyone paying attention that there are several people using the abuse button.  I know you would handle jmel in a different way if he was on your back. I respect you as a poster very much, but we have different styles.  So hopefully, the majority of us will now stick to whatever the topic is from here on. 
    Posted by andiejen


    Well regardless of whether I become a target I have to speak.

    I dislike hypocrisy, true.

    But one of the things I dislike the very most (second to blatant dishonesty) is when an individual decides they are going to force everyone else to talk their way, or else. One person trying to decide for everyone what is appropriate and allowed, as a teacher to children.  It redefines "condescending." Most particularly when done in a passive aggressive manner such as reporting posts. Hell, nobody even knows who did the reporting in a given instance. It strikes me as cowardly and contemptible.

    Nietchze had some vald points about that in Thus Spake Zarathrustra, mentioned in another thread recently, his prejudices and bigotries notwithstanding.

    Worse, when argument-by-report happens, other arguments about who reported who and who has multiple names start popping up in every damn thread!

    I also dislike more than hypocrisy attempts to force a given exchange into a specific structure. You can't say that, if you say that you have to say it a certain way, etc. Hence, my thread on conservative rules for debate, ie, when A complains about a Republican, A is inevitably going to be attacked for failing to post a list of everything Democrats have done that is similar.

    If someone is aggressive, be aggressive back or just ignore them. Hell, I often don't read all of airborne's posts because I get tired of having to parse out all the whacko wingnut this and idiot thats.....

    If someone wants to be a belligerent *sshole all the time, well, that's likely to be the result. But let what they say stand!

    It is beneficial for precisely the same reason that creating a right to free speech was.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 4:17 PM EDT

    News reporting Zimmerman will be charged, it is not yet known what the exact charge will be.

     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 4:27 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case:
    News reporting Zimmerman will be charged, it is not yet known what the exact charge will be.
    Posted by Thesemenarecowards


    Thesemenarecowards:

    Finally. Thank you for the update. I am guessing Angela Corey decided to go ahead with an indictment without presenting the case to a grand jury.
     

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    Re: Evidence in the Trayvon Martin case

    posted at 4/11/2012 4:38 PM EDT

    CBS has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey will hold a press conference at 6pm to discuss the charges against George Zimmerman.

    The highest charge he could face is second degree murder, which carries a sentence of life in prison in Florida.


     

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