Evidence may indicate that the IRS was even more corrupt than we thought!

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    Maybe the IG is lying too:

    Democrats had noticed that the word "progressives" was on the so-called Be On The Lookout, or BOLO, list. But the Treasury IG suggested that the list wasn't used.

    The operative paragraph from the IG letter:

    "Based on the information you flagged regarding the existence of a 'Progressives' entry on BOLO lists, TIGTA performed additional research which determined that six tax-exempt applications filed between May 2010 and May 2012 having the words 'progress' or 'progressive' in their names were included in the 298 cases the IRS identified as potential political cases. We also determined that 14 tax-exempt applications filed between May 2010 and May 2012 using the words 'progress' or 'progressive' in their names were not referred for added scrutiny as potential political cases. In total, 30 percent of the organizations we identified with the words 'progress' or "progressive" in their names were processed as potential political cases. In comparison, our audit found that 100 percent of the tax-exempt applications with Tea Party, Patriots, or 9/12 in their names were processed as potential political cases during the timeframe of our audit."

     



    He dont care about facts like that your just a wingnut wacko lol

     
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    Yes, the IG of Obama's Treasury Dept is taking orders from congressional republicans and lying in writing to make Obama look bad.

    THE dumbest thing ever posted here.  EVER



    He'll top it just wait lol

     
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    Reality is really hard on you dolts, ain't it.

    Well ya better duck because here is a healthy dose of it.

    Can't wait for your oh-so childish "neener, neener, I just know that ain't true" reponse.

    You fools are quite entertaing in your ignorance.

     

     

    A spokesman for Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George told The Hill on Tuesday that Issa had requested investigators “narrowly focus on tea party organizations.”

    But new documents have revealed that liberal and progressive groups received similar treatment from the IRS. The “inappropriate criteria” used to single out tea party groups — so-called “Be On the Look Out” (BOLO) memos — also singled out progressive and “Occupy” groups.

    “We did not review the use, disposition, purpose or content of the other BOLOs. That was outside the scope of our audit,” the Treasury inspector general spokesman told The Hill.

    The report identified 298 groups that were subjected to additional scrutiny, and identified 98 of those groups as either tea party, patriot or 9/12 groups. The remaining 202 groups were labelled as “other.” During congressional hearings, George was repeatedly asked if these 202 “other” groups included liberal organizations. He said he couldn’t “make that determination” based on the available evidence. However, several liberal groups received the same level of IRS scrutiny as tea party groups.

    The Associated Press on Wednesday confirmed that liberal and progressive groups were subjected the same treatment that conservative groups had complained about, including excessive questioning and extremely long waits. The liberal group Catholics United, for instance, waited seven years before receiving tax exempt status, far longer than any tea party group was forced to wait.


    Karen Kraushaar told the Associated Press that the inspector general was only “asked to look at the treatment of organizations known to be affiliated with the tea party in its review, and was asked to audit the way those organizations were being treated when they applied for tax-exempt status.”



    lol keep digging baby.

    the good news is the IRS cannot stonewall forever and every one cannot plead the 5th so, the truth will come out!

     

     
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    To date, leaked transcripts from House interviews of IRS Cincinnati employees portray an environment of unclear guidelines and uneven management, rather than a concerted, politically motivated effort.

    http://www.wutc.org/post/irs-chief-no-evidence-intentional-wrongdoing-so-far

     

    “We have not found evidence of intentional wrongdoing by anyone in the IRS or involvement in these matters by anyone outside the IRS,” he told reporters.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/irs-acting-chief-inappropriate-screening-used-in-non-tea-party-cases-too.php

     

    Along with conservative and small-government tax-exempt applicants, IRS officials in Cincinnati also flagged groups whose applications contained words like "progressive," "occupy," "medical marijuana," and Israel. The final BOLO list from April contained the search term "Green Energy Organizations."

     

     



    276 to 6

     

     

    Caught a photo of ACC trying make excuses for that one:

     

     



     

     

     

     

     

     

    The only reason there were more tbaggers on that small list is because that is what the weasel Issa asked for, only tbagger lists.

    Not surprising that a moron like you would be surprised that Issa got what he asked for from the IRS, a list that would help you neo-cons continue on in your victimhood of self-delusion.

    Nice try:

    The IRS office in Cincinnati which decides whether to exempt such groups from income tax singled out 72 of them for scrutiny because they were openly affiliated with the Tea Party movement, together with 24 others whose names included associated labels such as "patriot".

    However a further 226 other political groups were also placed in the same review whose affiliations were not immediately apparent from their name alone, which is often the case among liberal campaign groups.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/04/irs-tax-scandal-new-evidence

     

     

     



    Tbaggers?  Really?  Lower the diagog much?

     

     

    only 6 progressvie groups.  Thems the facts.

    try to hide from the facts, you been caught.

     




     

    Only three groups were denied tax exempt status, all of them 'librul'.

    Them's the facts, you've now been officially smacked upside your pointy head so go sit in the corner and think about how dumb you've been.

    which proves what? That liberals can't fill out the forms ,even with help? How many tea party groups filled out all the paperwork, answered all the invasive questions and are still waiting?

    how many of them were asked for donor lists, how they pray, and their reading lists? What's that you say? None? You are correct.

    How many had to wait months or years for a decision? Huh? None? 

    Funny how what you say doesn't support your argument at all.

     
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    So do you want to take the bet or not?



    Bet? Lets see you are obviously not intellectually honest so why would I assume you are honest in bets?

    lol, what a tool

     
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    which proves what? That liberals can't fill out the forms ,even with help? How many tea party groups filled out all the paperwork, answered all the invasive questions and are still waiting?

    how many of them were asked for donor lists, how they pray, and their reading lists? What's that you say? None? You are correct.

    How many had to wait months or years for a decision? Huh? None? 

    Funny how what you say doesn't support your argument at all.

     



    What the ... can you read above a third grade level? Ya, didn't think so.

     

    And what does 98 out of 298 of the groups scrutinized prove?

    Right - NOTHING!

    The Associated Press on Wednesday confirmed that liberal and progressive groups were subjected the same treatment that conservative groups had complained about, including excessive questioning and extremely long waits. The liberal group Catholics United, for instance, waited seven years before receiving tax exempt status, far longer than any tea party group was forced to wait.



    It's a fig leaf.  Come on, be honest.  MONTHS after the initial kerfuffle, the IRS "magically" finds that some progressive groups were targetted, SIX OF THEM.  All of them resolved in a short time, none of them asked the over the top questions that were asked of the TEA party.

    And you answer is ONE liberal group waited seven years, which I find hard to beleive.  I think there is more to it than that.

    Get connected with the facts, and you will see your flaw.

     
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    lol keep digging baby.

     

     

    the good news is the IRS cannot stonewall forever and every one cannot plead the 5th so, the truth will come out!

     




     

    So do you want to take the bet or not?

    You keep posting how you just "know" it's a real scandal.

    Why don't you and the other spoonhead pool your money and take the bet?

    What's the matter, not as confident as your queefs imply?




    What is soo sad is that you are not on the side of truth, finding out what happened, you are on the side of protecting big government.  Protect the beast, even when they do wrong.

    What happened here is a political black bag operation, plain and simple.  but, if you don't beleive that, then the alternative is that the IRS/Government is lashing out at those who want to limit its power to it's mandate.  In this scenario, that the TEA party legitimately calls their power into question is the offense,  you don't challenge the all powerful government, government will destroy you.

    So, those are the only realistic possibilities.  which one you going with?

     
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    WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service did flag tax-exempt applications from liberal groups for extra attention, but they did not receive the same scrutiny as did those from Tea Party groups, according to the inspector general who investigated the IRS targeting.

    The word "progressive" was included on a "be on the look out" list, or BOLO list, used by IRS agents in the agency's Cincinnati field office, Russell George said in a June 26 letter to Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. Those lists were used to determine which groups' application should be studied more carefully.

    Unlike the way Tea Party applications were handled, George wrote, there were no "instructions on how to refer cases that met" the progressive criteria. "We found no indication … that 'progressives' was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention." The IRS was trying to determine whether the groups did too much political activity to qualify for the non-profit status reserved for predominantly "social welfare" groups.

    "In total, 30 percent of the organizations we identified with the words 'progress' or 'progressive' in their names were processed as potential political cases," George wrote. "In comparison, our audit found that 100 percent of the tax-exempt applications with Tea Party, Patriots, or 9/12 in their names were processed as potential political cases" during the audit's time frame.

    George's letter came as the new acting IRS chief, Danny Werfel, appeared before the committee to answer questions about the tax agency's internal investigation into how and why the targeting occurred. Committee Democrats had sought George's letter following revelations that IRS screeners had also singled out liberal groups for more scrutiny.

    BOOM!!

     
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    WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service did flag tax-exempt applications from liberal groups for extra attention, but they did not receive the same scrutiny as did those from Tea Party groups, according to the inspector general who investigated the IRS targeting.

    The word "progressive" was included on a "be on the look out" list, or BOLO list, used by IRS agents in the agency's Cincinnati field office, Russell George said in a June 26 letter to Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. Those lists were used to determine which groups' application should be studied more carefully.

    Unlike the way Tea Party applications were handled, George wrote, there were no "instructions on how to refer cases that met" the progressive criteria. "We found no indication … that 'progressives' was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention." The IRS was trying to determine whether the groups did too much political activity to qualify for the non-profit status reserved for predominantly "social welfare" groups.

    "In total, 30 percent of the organizations we identified with the words 'progress' or 'progressive' in their names were processed as potential political cases," George wrote. "In comparison, our audit found that 100 percent of the tax-exempt applications with Tea Party, Patriots, or 9/12 in their names were processed as potential political cases" during the audit's time frame.

    George's letter came as the new acting IRS chief, Danny Werfel, appeared before the committee to answer questions about the tax agency's internal investigation into how and why the targeting occurred. Committee Democrats had sought George's letter following revelations that IRS screeners had also singled out liberal groups for more scrutiny.

    BOOM!!



    No BOOM!

    If your organization has 'Progress' in its title, there is a 30% chance it is political.  If it has 'Tea Party', '9/12' or 'Patriot', there is a 100% chance it is political.

     

     
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    If your organization has 'Progress' in its title, there is a 30% chance it is political.  If it has 'Tea Party', '9/12' or 'Patriot', there is a 100% chance it is political.



    whoosh....

    There was no lauguage in the BOLO or instructions on how to handle entities with "progressive"; there was specific language in BOLO instructions to send the conservative orgs for more scrutiny.

     

    so, yes, BOOM!

     
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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An IRS official effectively waived her right not to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative groups, a Republican-led congressional committee concluded on Friday in a vote that cleared the way for Congress to hold her in contempt.

    Lois Lerner, former head of the Internal Revenue Service's tax-exempt division, angered Republicans last month when she invoked her constitutional right not to answer their questions at a hearing.

    The committee is investigating the IRS's admission that it subjected applications for tax exempt status from groups with "Tea Party" or "Patriot" in their names to special scrutiny.

    By reading a statement telling lawmakers that she did "nothing wrong" before invoking her Fifth Amendment protections Lerner waived her rights.

    The Oversight and Government Reform Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives approved a resolution on Friday saying that Lerner did waive her Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination.

    "That is the not the way the Fifth Amendment works. You don't get to tell your side of the story," and then avoid cross examination.

     
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    WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service did flag tax-exempt applications from liberal groups for extra attention, but they did not receive the same scrutiny as did those from Tea Party groups, according to the inspector general who investigated the IRS targeting.

    The word "progressive" was included on a "be on the look out" list, or BOLO list, used by IRS agents in the agency's Cincinnati field office, Russell George said in a June 26 letter to Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. Those lists were used to determine which groups' application should be studied more carefully.

    Unlike the way Tea Party applications were handled, George wrote, there were no "instructions on how to refer cases that met" the progressive criteria. "We found no indication … that 'progressives' was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention." The IRS was trying to determine whether the groups did too much political activity to qualify for the non-profit status reserved for predominantly "social welfare" groups.

    "In total, 30 percent of the organizations we identified with the words 'progress' or 'progressive' in their names were processed as potential political cases," George wrote. "In comparison, our audit found that 100 percent of the tax-exempt applications with Tea Party, Patriots, or 9/12 in their names were processed as potential political cases" during the audit's time frame.

    George's letter came as the new acting IRS chief, Danny Werfel, appeared before the committee to answer questions about the tax agency's internal investigation into how and why the targeting occurred. Committee Democrats had sought George's letter following revelations that IRS screeners had also singled out liberal groups for more scrutiny.

    BOOM!!

     



     

    No BOOM!

    If your organization has 'Progress' in its title, there is a 30% chance it is political.  If it has 'Tea Party', '9/12' or 'Patriot', there is a 100% chance it is political.

     



    Really? 

    them's some optics you are using there.

    There is no 30% chance of anything.  There was a 100% chance that if your organization was conservative it woudl be targetted.

     
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    Since it was revealed in May that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) improperly targeted the tax-exempt nonprofit status of conservative groups between 2010 and 2012, defenders of the beleaguered agency have offered three broad attempts to suppress the growing IRS scandal and put the matter to rest. However, each of these three attempts failed outright, and the scandal continues, with tenacious investigations underway by the House Oversight Committee and House Ways and Means Committee.

    The Daily Caller presents a look at the three attempts by IRS supporters to put out the fire — and how each attempt only fanned the flames.

    1. The wrongdoing was committed by two “rogue” IRS agentsin Cincinnati

    IRS and Obama administration claims that the improper targeting was carried out by two rogue agents in the IRS’ Cincinnati office have been completely debunked.

    “So our line people in Cincinnati who handled the applications did what we call centralization of these cases. They centralized work on these in one particular group…They didn’t do this because of any political bias,” embattled IRS official Lois Lerner said May 10.

    A May 19 New York Times piece entitled “Confusion and Staff Troubles Rife at I.R.S. Office in Ohio” pushed forward Lerner’s narrative. The Times even reported that the rogue Cincinnati agents were “Low-level employees in what many in the I.R.S. consider a backwater.”

    But as The Daily Caller reported, at least five different IRS offices nationwide targeted conservatives, including IRS offices in Cincinnati, Washington, D.C.; Chicago, Illinois; Laguna Niguel, California; and El Monte, California. Additionally, twelve different working groups within the IRS targeted conservatives.

    “It’s impossible,” a Cincinnati-based IRS employee responded to an investigator’s question about allegations that the targeting of conservative groups was due to two “rogue” agents. “As an agent we are controlled by many, many people. We have to submit many, many reports. So the chance of two agents being rogue and doing things like that could never happen.”

    “Well, it’s hard to answer the question because in my mind I still hear people saying we were low‑level employees, so we were lower than dirt, according to people in D.C. So, take it for what it is,” another Cincinnati IRS employee told congressional investigators, in reference to comments made by officials of the agency’s Washington, D.C. office. “They were basically throwing us underneath the bus.”

    Washington-based IRS lawyer Carter C. Hull oversaw the Cincinnati IRS office’s targeting of tea party groups, even sending the Cincinnati office a letter he wrote to the Albuquerque Tea Party as a model for demanding additional information from tea party groups during audits.

    “I was essentially a front person, because I had no autonomy or no authority to act on [applications] without Carter Hull’s influence or input,” Elizabeth Hofacre, an employee of the Cincinnati IRS office, told congressional investigators.

    2. A “conservative Republican” started the targeting

    Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on Darrell Issa’s House Oversight Committee, claimed last month that a lone “conservative Republican” manager named John Shafer, working in the IRS’ Cincinnati office, was responsible for the targeting.

    “Committee staff conducted a key interview last week with the IRS manager who supervised the team of screeners that evaluates applications for tax exempt status in Cincinnati, and this official stated that he is a ‘conservative Republican’ with 21 years of experience at the IRS,” Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, claimed in a divisive letter to Republican Oversight chairman Darrell Issa in June.

    “Based upon everything I’ve seen, the case is solved. And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on, to be frank with you,” Cummings then said on CNN.

    But Cummings’ claim was “ridiculous,” according to Jay Sekulow, who represents more than forty conservative groups that were targeted by the IRS in a class-action lawsuit brought by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), and ACLJ senior counsel David French.

    “That’s ridiculous. [Cummings' claim] is nonsense. We know that Lois Lerner was sending letters to tea party groups from Washington. We know that at least four different offices were involved, according to our documentation. Other IRS employees are saying that Washington was involved,” Sekulow told The Daily Caller.

    “[John] Shafer was just one individual describing his experience interacting with one group [within the IRS]. If he was only interacting with one group then his involvement in this process was minimal,” French said

    3. Progressive groups were targeted, too

    Reports that progressive groups were also targeted by the IRS have gained a tremendous amount of ink and television airplay, despite statements by Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George and a top congressional investigator that this third and most recent attempt to bury the scandal is bogus.

    The term “progressive” appeared on a heavily redacted November 2010 ”Be On the Lookout” (BOLO) list released in late June by House Ways and Means Democrats. The term was used to help the IRS identify political activity that “may not be appropriate” among 501(c)(3) charities eligible for tax-deductible contributions.

    The New York Times reported the news with broad editorializing.

    “Taken together, the documents seem to change the terms of a scandal that exploded over accusations that the I.R.S. had tried to stifle a nascent conservative political movement. Instead, the dispute now revolves around questionable sorting tactics used by I.R.S. application screeners,” the Times reported.

    Republican House Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp quickly shot back. While Camp’s Ways and Means staff noted that progressive groups were also featured on an IRS’ BOLO list, alongside tea party groups, it pointed out that only tea party groups had their donors threatened, had confidential information leaked, were sent “inappropriate and intrusive” questions, and had their applications delayed for more than two years, according to currently available evidence.

    Camp’s staff also noted that only tea party groups were mentioned as having been targeted in a Treasury Inspector General’s report on the IRS scandal. Nearly 100 conservative or tea party applications were given extra scrutiny, according to the IG report.

    Ways and Means Democrats did not call any progressive victims of IRS targeting at the committee’s hearing on IRS victims, despite having had the opportunity to do so.

    George definitively put the matter to rest with a June 26 letter to Rep. Sandy Levin disputing the idea that the IRS targeted progressives in the manner that the agency targeted conservatives.

    “While we have multiple sources of information corroborating the use of Tea Party and other related criteria we described in our report, including employee interviews, emails and other documents, we found no indication in any of these other materials that ‘progressives’ was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention,” George wrote.



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/08/irs-supporters-0-for-3-on-putting-scandal-to-rest/#ixzz2YYn2ucvi

     
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    “I can’t think of a federal agency in a weaker position than the IRS,” he said. “The IRS should resign itself to not getting more money.”

    Separately, acting IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel told workers in an email that he is canceling annual bonuses for managers because of sequestration cuts. The union's collective bargaining agreement calls for about $70 million in performance bonuses this year, but there is a clause that could enable the IRS to renegotiate.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/house-republicans-push-to-slash-irs-budget-by-24-percent-cite-abuses-and/#ixzz2Ye9Kck3v

     
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    Stealing from concerned? thats a new low even for you.

    When the evidence and statements are all in which it is not, then we can lay it to rest!

    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
    âۥ Socrates

     
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    I see you do not know what "reply" means.




    lol, you knew who I was talking to....haha

     
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    It took a mere two months and eight days for the Obama administration’s spin on the growing scandal of the IRS targeting Tea Party and conservative groups to completely collapse.

    Let’s rewind to May 10, 2013, when Lois Lerner, the former Director of the IRS Exempt Organizations Division, apologized on behalf of the agency for the targeting scheme that placed additional scrutiny on those tax exemption applications. When she did, she made several key claims.

    According to Lerner’s account, “line people” in Cincinnati decided on their own to target Tea Party groups and to send them inappropriate and intrusive questions. When senior IRS officials found out, they imposed rationality on the process and stopped the abuses.

    This week, on July 18, the IRS’s own employees demonstrated that this story was utterly, completely false.

    For the first time, congressional investigators heard not just from one of those very “line people” blamed for the scandal but also from a senior IRS attorney in Washington who was directly involved in the process at the very highest levels.

    And, for the first time, congressional investigators heard candor and truth.

    Did the IRS scandal originate with “line people”? No. In fact, Elizabeth Hofacre, the Ohio agent charged with processing Tea Party applications, was so frustrated with IRS actions that she asked for – and received – a transfer from her original position to escape from IRS dictates that came from Washington, D.C.

    Even worse, we now know – thanks to Carter Hull – a retired Washington tax specialist who was responsible for providing guidance on reviewing tax-exempt applications for Tea Party groups – that the scandal goes all the way to the IRS chief counsel’s office. In fact, it was the chief counsel’s office – not the “line people” that redoubled efforts to scrutinize conservatives. Here’s a key portion of Mr. Hull’s testimony:

    "In August 2011 I attended a meeting at which the applications assigned to me were discussed. I recall that Don Spellman, David Marshall, and Amy Franklin from Chief Counsel’s office were at the meeting... I recall that Ms. Franklin or someone else from Chief Counsel’s office stated that more current information was needed for my applications and that a second development letter should be sent to the applicants. I also recall the discussion about the creation of a template development letter for Tea Party applications."

    This is extraordinary, suggesting that it was the IRS chief counsel’s office, not rogue agents in Ohio, who engineered the key abuses in the targeting scandal, including the extraordinarily-intrusive questionnaires that asked conservative groups for donor lists, Internet login information, social media pages, and even the political and charitable activities of family members.

    Hull went on to testify that he had not seen anything like that in almost 50 years of work at the IRS.

    To be clear, IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins is a political appointee, appointed by President Obama in 2009 – the top lawyer in the agency. The involvement of his office – as early as 2011 – represents a dramatic escalation of the IRS scandal.

    The previous IRS explanation – a bureaucratic mistake, originating in Ohio – was bad enough. This explanation is much worse. With the involvement of the IRS’s top legal office more than two years ago, the questions now become eerily reminiscent of earlier Washington scandals.

    What was discussed at the more 100 meetings between the IRS Commissioner and White House meetings?

    Why was President Obama’s political operative, Stephanie Cutter, included in meetings with the IRS?

    In other words, what did the White House know, and when did it know it?

    I am the lead lawyer in the ACLJ’s lawsuit against the IRS on behalf of 41 conservative groups in 22 states. From the beginning we knew the IRS’s public story was false. We have documents showing the abuse stretched from coast-to-coast and originated from IRS offices from coast-to-coast.

    From my own experience as an IRS tax trial attorney, I knew that abuse so widespread could not possibly be originated or sustained from just a few “line people.”

    Now the evidence is in, and the scandal is moving up from Cincinnati and deep into the ranks of key Obama administration officials.

    How high will it go? Could this end up at the Oval Office? The evidence will tell the tale.

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/19/will-irs-scandal-lead-all-way-to-obama-white-house/

     
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