FACE IT CAPITALISM AS WE KNOW IT IS DEAD!

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      It's not just the flailing economy here in the United States but throughout the entire world...even India and China are facing the reality of economic slow down.

    Bottom line is this Capitalism has failed.

    Why? due to inherent inefficiencies created by human greed. The same sort of  greed that corrupted Socialism and ruined Communism.....

    So the question is what is next?

     Or better yet how do we reinvent a more efficient, just form of Capitalim so that the majority of the worlds peoples have the oppotunity to prosper( ie have a job) that can sustain them and ther families.

    Most folks on this thread are so small minded or so entrenched in their blind ideologies they will dismiss my observation as that of a crank....

    But I'm correct in my observation.

     I suggest you look around the world and I dare that you prove me wrong!

     With the world population projected to almost double in the next couple of decades Capitalism and consumerism will put global resources under extreme pressure. Competition for resources such food, energy, water etc will no doubt lead to political instability the result of which will be another world war.

    Such a great future if we continue down the same path.
     
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    How sadly misinformed. Its because we have gotten away from capitolism with this "Failure In Chief" that we are facing tuff times. As soon as the problem is voted out we should get back on track. I have faith in America!

     
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    Poor dawgie is so worried about Chine and India..

    Capitalism work fo me.

    Maybe.. if he had a job.. or was even employable.
     
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    [QUOTE]  It's not just the flailing economy here in the United States but throughout the entire world...even India and China are facing the reality of economic slow down. Bottom line is this Capitalism has failed. Why? due to inherent inefficiencies created by human greed. The same sort of  greed that corrupted Socialism and ruined Communism..... So the question is what is next?  Or better yet how do we reinvent a more efficient, just form of Capitalim so that the majority of the worlds peoples have the oppotunity to prosper( ie have a job) that can sustain them and ther families. Most folks on this thread are so small minded or so entrenched in their blind ideologies they will dismiss my observation as that of a crank.... But I'm correct in my observation.  I suggest you look around the world and I dare that you prove me wrong!  With the world population projected to almost double in the next couple of decades Capitalism and consumerism will put global resources under extreme pressure. Competition for resources such food, energy, water etc will no doubt lead to political instability the result of which will be another world war. Such a great future if we continue down the same path.
    Posted by kelldog1[/QUOTE]

    Most folks on this thread are so small minded or so entrenched in their blind ideologies they will dismiss my observation as that of a crank....

    But I'm correct in my observation.



    And yet you don't offer up what you think WILL work. You're great at whining about an issue but offer no solutions. Great job yet again!
     
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    Ya...maybe we should become a more socialist society like Obama and the Dem's would like, that's work so well in other countries. let's see it worked in................................................................................................?????

     
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    [QUOTE]How sadly misinformed. Its because we have gotten away from capitolism with this "Failure In Chief" that we are facing tuff times. As soon as the problem is voted out we should get back on track. I have faith in America!
    Posted by pymus1[/QUOTE]

    b-b-b-bingo!
     
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    FACE IT CAPITALISM AS WE KNOW IT IS DEAD!


    Killed by the democrats.
     
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    This is the longest downturn since the depression. Every other economic dip recovered naturally as part of the economic cycle of downturns and recoveries.

    The difference is that this one has been plagued with an overabundance of government intervention by a weak outgoing republican administration and a clueless incoming democrat administration just like what happened at the outset of the great depression.

    The solution is simple but politically difficult and will require much courage from the political class to implement.

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

     
     
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    Luckily for us, "Alcoholism" is as strong a philosophy as ever....
     
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    [QUOTE]I love when posters start talking about govt. intervention and warning we should be afraid.   This is what the hippie liberals used to shout in Harvard Square in the 60's. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.  Obama and his cabinet saved the auto industry and because of it, one has seen job growth and increased car sales. Most everything is dependent on the car industies.  Count the number of car commercials you see in one hour of watching tv.  Do the math and think about how many jobs are created in the advserising industry alone, because of these commercials.
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     I agree with you Jack. However, as Stalking Butler pointed out this "downturn" is not your garden variety, run of the mill, economic cycle. Rather the economic malaise is global in scope a reflection of the global synchronous nature of the melt down and the subsequent evaporation of capital.

     The Japanese earthquake/tsunami in March offered us a glimpse of how this global supply chain works and what happens when it is disrupted. Now use your imagination to view Capital (ie money) as a substitute for autoparts. Get the picture. I guess what I'm saying is this....

     We live in a new era brought about through globalization realized through technology. In this new era things happen fast.

     We are all in this together, (at least the G-8). This economic malaise won't be solved by "new austerity, belt tightening" nor will it be solved by your typical Keynesian sort of stimulus, nor Republican policy or Democratic policy the current situation is much bigger than that.....................

    The world has got to figure out a solution....because our economies and millions of lives hang in the balance!

    This is not your fathers depression!.....no this one is different and much much more dire and has the potential to be much more intense!

    I hate to say it Jack we aint of " out of the woods" yet...not by a long shot!


     
     
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    Things are getting better..some industries..such as mine will have a few more tough years because stimulus funding has gone away...so there will be adjustments for next fiscal year..which starts in a few weeks. Overall..there is improvement..slow improvement but something nevertheless. It took us many, many years to get into this mess...no one should expect that a turnaround will happen overnight.
    The difference between this recession and others is that we have no "innovative industry" to provide a quicker boost.
    Things will and should change and some people/industries may get left behind...but  overall..I see improvement. The housing market may still be in a lot of trouble..but people are spending on smaller things ..including autos.
     
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    I am still waiting for us to try capitalism.  Seems like we have been embroiled in an increasingly socialist economy over the past 80 years, which is now failing.

    how about we actually try capitalism before we dismiss it?
     
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    [QUOTE]I am still waiting for us to try capitalism.  Seems like we have been embroiled in an increasingly socialist economy over the past 80 years, which is now failing. how about we actually try capitalism before we dismiss it?
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]
    When I see comments like this...I know the poster has no idea what "socialism" entails and is simply regurgitating talking points. Please, Skeeter, demonstrate why it is that you believe our economy to be based in socialism.
     
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    Is that a violin or trumpet playing?
     
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    Lawyers are good at putting words in other peoples mouths.
    I don't think you are a lawyer.
    I didn't say that.

    I failed to see the relevance of social/industrial issues from a century ago.. unless you were fear mongering that those things would come back to America?

    The quote "we enjoyed such treats as finding in our sausages the ground-up arms of child laborers forced to work well below living wage for 16 hours a day" did seem a smidge dramatic. Ya think?

    Have a nice socialist day comrade.
     
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    The quote "we enjoyed such treats as finding in our sausages the ground-up arms of child laborers forced to work well below living wage for 16 hours a day" did seem a smidge dramatic. Ya think?



    What? WhatDoYouWantNow being a drama queen??? Ya don't say....
     
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    [QUOTE]The quote "we enjoyed such treats as finding in our sausages the ground-up arms of child laborers forced to work well below living wage for 16 hours a day" did seem a smidge dramatic. Ya think? What? WhatDoYouWantNow being a drama queen??? Ya don't say....
    Posted by WhichOnesPink[/QUOTE]
    Your comment reflects a  denial about what life was like as the nation industrialized. You should perhaps try to educate yourself on the history of labor and industry so that you will understand its relevence to society today.
     
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    Your comment reflects a  denial about what life was like as the nation industrialized. You should perhaps try to educate yourself on the history of labor and industry so that you will understand its relevence to society today.


    I'm well aware thanks. It's not something that is going to happen in today's world hence my comment. Plus I just enjoy needling What.
    And it's relevance.
     
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    [QUOTE]  It's not just the flailing economy here in the United States but throughout the entire world...even India and China are facing the reality of economic slow down. Bottom line is this Capitalism has failed. Why? due to inherent inefficiencies created by human greed. The same sort of  greed that corrupted Socialism and ruined Communism..... So the question is what is next?  Or better yet how do we reinvent a more efficient, just form of Capitalim so that the majority of the worlds peoples have the oppotunity to prosper( ie have a job) that can sustain them and ther families. Most folks on this thread are so small minded or so entrenched in their blind ideologies they will dismiss my observation as that of a crank.... But I'm correct in my observation.  I suggest you look around the world and I dare that you prove me wrong!  With the world population projected to almost double in the next couple of decades Capitalism and consumerism will put global resources under extreme pressure. Competition for resources such food, energy, water etc will no doubt lead to political instability the result of which will be another world war. Such a great future if we continue down the same path.
    Posted by kelldog1[/QUOTE]

    Bottom line is this Capitalism has failed


    What do you think the altenative should be? What system do you think would work?
     

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