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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     
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    The Government has stolen received a record amount of citizens' hardearned money.

    Al Capone, eat your heart out.

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     




     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 

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    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     
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    The Government has stolen received a record amount of citizens' hardearned money.

     



    Was it all "hardearned"...?

    Really...?!

    Or was perhaps some of it stolen received in kind....

     

     
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    Wow.

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    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     




     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     

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    You eat hamburger helper?....you ARE rich : )

     

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     




     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     

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    Right.

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     
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    "In my house, we didn't have hamburger helper.  We had food helper, as in, what you're hungry?  Then, help yourself to the store and buy some mfin' food...!!"

     

     
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    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

    When did Upper Volta change their name? I am so disappointed.

     

    [QUOTE]You eat hamburger helper?....you ARE rich : )[/QUOTE]

    Hamburger helper is for rich folk. We have Rat helper.

     

    [QUOTE]A rich people's problem.[/QUOTE]

    Remember, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!

     

     

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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     



    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     




     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze

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    Do they?  Really..?!

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     

     

     
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    [QUOTE]Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

    When did Upper Volta change their name? I am so disappointed.

     

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    Repo-ed.

    Turns out "Upper Volta" was got from rent-a-center on 'easy credit terms'....

     

     
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    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     

     

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    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

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    Maybe they should spend their food stamps more wisely then

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     



    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze

     

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    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     

     

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    I'll take it. Always looking for healthier versions of food I like

     
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    Turns out "Upper Volta" was got from rent-a-center on 'easy credit terms'....

    Fine. But as far as I'm concerned Burma is still Burma.

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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     

     

     

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    Right.

     

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     

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    Maybe they should spend their food stamps more wisely then

     

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    No argument there.

    My "salad days" were more like "rice-and-beans days".

    Only 'rich people' eat salads.  :)

     

     
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    [QUTOE]Turns out "Upper Volta" was got from rent-a-center on 'easy credit terms'....

    Fine. But as far as I'm concerned Burma is still Burma.

     

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    Fair enough.

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     



    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze



    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     

     

     




     

    Yes. Seriously, I do.  I (we) cook a ton.  I`ll do them this weekend.

     

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    I don't know...

    I would hate to think I'm contributing to your feeling sorry for yourself....

     

     

     
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    Taxes during the golden age of the middle class were far higher than now, so tax rates are almost certainly not the problem.

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    Tax rates were high, but taxpayers did not pay more taxes. .
    Your chart shows the "top marginal rate"....that chart is meaningless, because nobody in their right mind in the 1940s to the 1970s would pay a 60 to 90 percent income tax....nobody today would either.

    That is where tax loopholes and trusts and deferred bonuses and expense accounts and other ways of sheltering income came in...liberals may have felt good in soaking the rich, but they didnt.   Just stimulated the tax lawyers to get rich.

    I read somewhere that on the top rates of 90% or so in the 1940s , there were literally like 10 taxpayers in the entire country stupid enough to actually pay that rate.

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     



    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze

     

     

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    Do they?  Really..?!

     

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     

     

     

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    I'll take it. Always looking for healthier versions of food I like

     

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    It's not too difficult, if you've worked with beans before, but it does take a long time, usually about 8 hours on low heat (after soaking your dried beans overnight), and I always let them sit a while, sometimes overnight, to let them set up.  Baking beans is an act of attrition.

    Healthy depends on how much salt pork you use.  I use a combo of salt pork and uncured bacon (if you can get the ends of the bacon, they're rather cheap).  There's no substitute for molasses, IMO.  Tried it before with cane and maple syrups, but no good, except maybe the latter as a flavoring only.  Some recipes call for cloves, I use allspice (pref).  If you must have bbq flavor, try a dash of liquid smoke instead of bottled sauce.

    I used to make my own brown bread too with sorghum, but nobody else likes it but me.  :(

     

     

     

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     

     




     

     

    I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     



    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze



    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    Yes. Seriously, I do.  I (we) cook a ton.  I`ll do them this weekend.

     



    I don't know...

     

    I would hate to think I'm contributing to your feeling sorry for yourself....



    What are you a bean-tease?

     

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    You brought up your dietary menu, not me.

     

    That I choose to make my own beans is my decision, even though the time and effort probably don't warrant it.  Point is, I have the relative luxury of time, tools, and knowledge to permit this.

    For others, it's not a choice, it's a necessity.

    Capisce?

     

     

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     


    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze



    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     Yes. Seriously, I do.  I (we) cook a ton.  I`ll do them this weekend.

     

    I don't know...

     

    I would hate to think I'm contributing to your feeling sorry for yourself....

     

    What are you a bean-tease?

     


    You brought up your dietary menu, not me.

      

    That I choose to make my own beans is my decision, even though the time and effort probably don't warrant it.  Point is, I have the relative luxury of time, tools, and knowledge to permit this.

    For others, it's not a choice, it's a necessity.

    Capisce?

     

     


    Did you or did you not say you had a recipe to share?

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    Yes, I did.  (Look up.)

    But with that attitude, I hope it's not wasted on you.

     

     

     
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     "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself.   I like it better than tuna helper myself"

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     


    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze



    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     Yes. Seriously, I do.  I (we) cook a ton.  I`ll do them this weekend.

     

    I don't know...

     

    I would hate to think I'm contributing to your feeling sorry for yourself....

     

    What are you a bean-tease?

     


    You brought up your dietary menu, not me.

      

    That I choose to make my own beans is my decision, even though the time and effort probably don't warrant it.  Point is, I have the relative luxury of time, tools, and knowledge to permit this.

    For others, it's not a choice, it's a necessity.

    Capisce?

     

     

     


    Did you or did you not say you had a recipe to share?



    Yes, I did.  (Look up.)

     

    But with that attitude, I hope it's not wasted on you.

     

     

     




     

    What attitude?

     

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    Never mind.

    I posted some info to pink, above.  I don't have the details/quantities here now.  Basically:

    - navy or pea beans, sorted; soak overnight and rinse well;

    - layer in a dutch oven: salt pork, beans, bacon, chopped onions, and then a mixture of molasses, allspice, dry mustard and and hot water (beware of hard water)

    - cook at 250 for at least 8 hours, adding water as needed (if they dry out, you've failed), 1/2 cup at a time; skim any fat 

    - remove from oven and let sit for at least two hours (or overnight) before heating up again to serve

     

    I do a similar recipe with pinto beans using mexican spices and chilis with a little mexican chocolate.  My mexican wife calls them "mole beans" and they totally rock.

     

     
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    Wow.

    We're really rich.

     

    Burkina Faso, eat your heart out...!

     

     I`m told I`m "rich" by the Left.  It sure doesn`t feel like it though. 



    Maybe you are, and you just don't know it.

     

    Kind of like herpes....

     

    Median household income is $50K in the U.S.  It's likely that anyone south of that number might view anyone north of it as 'rich', too....

     

     Problem is................a house, a car, a once-per-year vacation, and tuition, leaves nothing left but Hamburger Helper and beans and hot dogs.

     


    Right.

     

    A rich people's problem.

     

    Some barely have the beans.  

     

    But they have 2 LCD TV`s, an IPhone, an IPad, junk food, cigarettes, and booze



    Do they?  Really..?!

     

    Hot dogs and HH aren't "junk food"...?

     

    Fwiw, I bake my own beans with real molasses.  Way tastier and less sugar.

    Want the recipe...?

     

     Yes. Seriously, I do.  I (we) cook a ton.  I`ll do them this weekend.

     

    I don't know...

     

    I would hate to think I'm contributing to your feeling sorry for yourself....

     

    What are you a bean-tease?

     


    You brought up your dietary menu, not me.

      

    That I choose to make my own beans is my decision, even though the time and effort probably don't warrant it.  Point is, I have the relative luxury of time, tools, and knowledge to permit this.

    For others, it's not a choice, it's a necessity.

    Capisce?

     

     

     


    Did you or did you not say you had a recipe to share?



    Yes, I did.  (Look up.)

     

    But with that attitude, I hope it's not wasted on you.

     

     

     

     




     

     

    What attitude?

     



    Never mind.

     

    I posted some info to pink, above.  I don't have the details/quantities here now.  Basically:

    - navy or pea beans, sorted; soak overnight and rinse well;

    - layer in a dutch oven: salt pork, beans, bacon, chopped onions, and then a mixture of molasses, allspice, dry mustard and and hot water (beware of hard water)

    - cook at 250 for at least 8 hours, adding water as needed (if they dry out, you've failed), 1/2 cup at a time; skim any fat 

    - remove from oven and let sit for at least two hours (or overnight) before heating up again to serve

     

    I do a similar recipe with pinto beans using mexican spices and chilis with a little mexican chocolate.  My mexican wife calls them "mole beans" and they totally rock.

     

     




     

    Awesome! Thanks!  Will try this weekend.  If I skip the salt pork and bacon (we have 2 vegetarians) will it ruin it? 

    Skip that...........I`m making them your way and if they don`t try them....too bad for them.

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    Never tried it vegetarian-style.  I suppose you could add some fat via veg oil or shortening if they're squeamish about butter, but I don't know what it will do for the cooking time. Try the web.

    But with this and with other slow cooked legumes like my lentil soup, I have yet to find a really good substitute for pork fat in some form.

     

     
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    Re: Fair Share

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    http://origin.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/07/Tax_Rates_All.png

     

     

     

     

    So whichever we look at, my overall point stands: Taxes are still lower in general, so if we're wondering why a seeming high number income isn't buying what we feel it should, the problem does not appear to be the tax rate.

     



    You're right we have a consumption problem.  In the 50-60's; people would have things repaired and most families had someone handy enought to fix the toaster, washer or other major appliance and they'd last 20 plus years, not today.  In general these consumer goods were well made and dependable.  Then the outsouring of manufacturing started, it stated with shoes and clothing and electronics, remember when electronics came from Japan, then Taiwan, then China and now the rest of Aisia.  Well the same thing happened with white goods or heavy appliances.

    Everything became cheaper and more people could afford them; but they ability to repair them suffered with the cheaper designs, when the components break or wear out they were part of a major assmbly instead of a serviceable sub assembly.  We are now a consumer society that is constatantly replacing our cheap goods because we've lost the ability to repair them due to the cheap designs and the loss of the skills to do it. This is why the cell phone companies have new plans to replace your phone in 1 year.  In the 60's your phone was hard wired and had been installed for 20 years.

    Everyone feels thta they need the newest and best as opposed to the adequate they can afford.

     

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