Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic

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     I think that TJ also implied a good deal of common sense!

     Something that is lacking in political discourse these days!
     
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    Yep   no States rights anymore.  
    Posted by howiewho


    States have lots of rights.  Just the other day New York decided to legalize gay marriage.  How about that?
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic :  We are losing that right everyday. States should have the right to do anything as long as it doesn't harm other states rights,republic (states rights). tell every state they must do something ,democracy (socialism).  pretty soon people will be marrying their dog or cat, they love them and want to spend the rest of their lives together. That's because it's just started to get attention , money maker. no one really cares who you s-crew.  I was required to become Catholic so I could marry my wife (50 yrs) (female) so I did,  big deal.
    Posted by howiewho


    You are babbling in an uncontrollable fashion.  Lay off the sauce.

    Do you really want the "states' rights" as they were in the past?  That was the basis for creating the segregationist South that kept Blacks as a permanent underclass.  That situation was only changed by the forceful use of the Federal government (all three branches).

    Do you still want to argue for states' rights? Sober up and tell us.

    And you don't know what "socialism" is either.
     
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    The founders were smart enough to know that a straight democracy would oppress the minority if, left to the federal govt. That is exactly why they settled on a republic of states.
    While not perfect it is the best form IMO as long a s the federal govt is kept small and in check!

    Which is exactly what was meant by; "democracy should not practiced outside the limits of a town"!
     
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    We are not a majority rules country. We have always been, and I hope will always be, a Constutional Republic.
     
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    its both a democracy and a republic
     
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    Bottom line...we are a republic that is governed by a (elected) representive democracy.
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic : Please, recall that next time there's a problem with a Supreme Court decision that supposedly goes against the "will of the people."
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    The SCOTUS is a body that is independent from the legislative and executive and not the will of voters per say.

    Therefore their decisions are not rightly judged by the voice of the majority except indirectly through elected executives that get the opportunity at times to make changes on the court.

    But, you knew that.
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic : Except that oversimplifies and obscures history. We tried it largely Jefferson's way at first (well, we didn't sunset all laws every 20 years as he wanted).... ...it failed. Hamilton's theory of a stronger federal government and energetic executive largely prevailed, though tempered by Madison.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    And even Jefferson came around to Hamilton's view: he kept the national bank that he thought was unconstitutional and bought Louisiana despite having no explicit constituional authority to do so.  He wasn't all that happy about this political reality: he left off his self designed tombstone that he served as president.
     
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    My theory is that all the liberals went to public school and learned American History from foreigners.  This explains their affinity for presidential candidates that spent their formative years outside the U.S.
     
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    My theory is that all the liberals went to public school and learned American History from foreigners.  This explains their affinity for presidential candidates that spent their formative years outside the U.S.
    Posted by skeeter20


    My theory is that you can't make a logical argument to save your life.  All you have is ideological rants and little evidence of intellect. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic : Because we all know spineless poltroons like yourself are much too fragile to serve in the US Armed Forces where you might be posted overseas. That would be much too far from your mommy. You must not know that John McCain, the choice of the whacko wingnuts, also was born 'overseas' and spent his formative years outside the US. But don't let the facts get in the way of your stupidity. 
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men



    Ah, the insults of the left. I must be right.

    Didn't like McCain either, although, unlike your fearless leader Obama, actually served in the armed forces.

    As a side note, why do you assume conservatives love people like McCain, just because the left loves people like Obama?  I thought McCain was a Republican the left could vote for?  Wasn't that the story line the last election?
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic : My theory is that you can't make a logical argument to save your life.  All you have is ideological rants and little evidence of intellect. 
    Posted by Reubenhop


    Yes, you are right on liberal point.  Attack the messenger, not the message.  Not going to work.  I know I'm making sense to you, you just won;t admit it, because ideology trumps truth for the left.  One of the lefts tells is that they don't argue the message, but attack the messenger.
     
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    In Response to Re: Founding Fathers Democracy or Republic : Yes, you are right on liberal point.  Attack the messenger, not the message.  Not going to work.  I know I'm making sense to you, you just won;t admit it, because ideology trumps truth for the left.  One of the lefts tells is that they don't argue the message, but attack the messenger.
    Posted by skeeter20


    You have a message?  Could have fooled me.  Just mostly mindless rants about things you hate (and you hate a lot of things).  That's a message?  I don't think so.  A message implies that you convey information.  You don't do much of that at all.  Rant on though, must make you happy.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson said that democracy should never be practiced outside the limits of a town. Our Founders were very wary of power no matter who had it and thus limited it as much as possible -- this is why we need  a unique system of checks and balances.                          Republic for which we stand.
    Posted by chiefhowie


    Sailor Sally doesn't know what democracy is. He just thinks its what ever Rush Limbaugh says it is.
     
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