Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

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    Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    The WaPo spreads hope and sunshine for the US, which Obama and green zealots have done their level best to scuttle:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/european-industry-flocks-to-cheap-us-gas/2013/04/01/454d06ea-8a2c-11e2-98d9-3012c1cd8d1e_story.html

    European industry flocks to U.S. to take advantage of cheaper gas

    German chemicals giant BASF.... has announced plans for wide-ranging expansion in the United States, where natural gas prices have fallen to a quarter of those in Europe, largely because of American innovations in unlocking shale gas.

    Among those most affected are energy-intensive industries such as steel and chemicals, because they use natural gas as a raw material and power source. With Europe lagging in energy production, manufacturers on the continent warn that a chain reaction could shift more and more investment to U.S. shores.

    “It’s become clear, with the drop in gas and electricity prices in the United States, that we are, at the moment, at a significant disadvantage with our competitors,” said Gordon Moffat, director general of Eurofer, the main lobbying group for European steel manufacturers.

    The environmentalist have ruined European economies.

    And there is a chain-reaction critical mass metaphor in play:

    “It’s a very slow process, but it’s a continuous one,” said Harald Schwager, the head of BASF’s European operations, referring to the manufacturing outflow. “Once a customer of ours decides to build a new factory in the U.S., then this customer will request from us to be close by with our production. And so, over time, you see a self-accelerating process, which will move production into the U.S.”

    Europe's Greens won't get out of the way, so Europe's only hope is that Obama can derail the US fracking effort in the next three years, although he hasn't been that obtuse yet. Or, they could back Andrew Cuomo for President in 2016.

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    And hopefully not the next american bubble.

    But since the Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, your thread title is misplaced and...snarky.

     

    Did you sharpen your bayonets yet today?

     

     

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    Our lower prices are short term.  Natural gas is a commodity sold on the global market.  Transportation and lack of LNG terminals is the driver of the higher prices in Europe.  As the market matures, these prices will balance out.

     

     

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

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    Our lower prices are short term.  Natural gas is a commodity sold on the global market.  Transportation and lack of LNG terminals is the driver of the higher prices in Europe.  As the market matures, these prices will balance out.

     

     

    There is and will be a need to continually increase energy supplies around the globe for the foreseeable future.

    Any and all energy sources need to be explored and capitalized on; the countries that do this will reap the economic rewards for their efforts. The countries that dont will suffer economically!

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    In response to UserName99's comment:

     

    Our lower prices are short term.  Natural gas is a commodity sold on the global market.  Transportation and lack of LNG terminals is the driver of the higher prices in Europe.  As the market matures, these prices will balance out.

     

     

    There is and will be a need to continually increase energy supplies around the globe for the foreseeable future.

    Any and all energy sources need to be explored and capitalized on; the countries that do this will reap the economic rewards for thewir efforts. The countries that dont will suffer economically!



    Hence the need to utilize renewable/sustainable energy sources at every turn and for every conceivable application.

     

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

    In response to UserName99's comment:

     

    Our lower prices are short term.  Natural gas is a commodity sold on the global market.  Transportation and lack of LNG terminals is the driver of the higher prices in Europe.  As the market matures, these prices will balance out.

     

     

    There is and will be a need to continually increase energy supplies around the globe for the foreseeable future.

    Any and all energy sources need to be explored and capitalized on; the countries that do this will reap the economic rewards for thewir efforts. The countries that dont will suffer economically!


    [QUOTE]

    Hence the need to utilize renewable/sustainable energy sources at every turn and for every conceivable application. 



    Along with all energy sources being explored and capitalized on; the countries that do this will reap the economic rewards for thewir efforts. The countries that dont will suffer economically!

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    And hopefully not the next american bubble.

    But since the Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, your thread title is misplaced and...snarky.

     Did you sharpen your bayonets yet today?

     



    Liberals hate when the private sector succeeds...and the government solutions fail...which is most of the time.
    So,  European factories locating in the US is a bad thing?

    The Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, damn right...and so will the US...it is a "win-win" The beauty of the free enterprise system...as opposed to the top down government cronyism you all favor.

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    And hopefully not the next american bubble.

    But since the Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, your thread title is misplaced and...snarky.

     Did you sharpen your bayonets yet today?

     

     



    Liberals hate when the private sector succeeds...and the government solutions fail...which is most of the time.



    Obviously, I didn't say anything like that.

    But since my work is firmly in the private sector, I favor any solution that makes good business sense for my private sector client.

    Which is why I favor efficiencies and retooling at every level of the energy chain.

     

     
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    Which is why I favor efficiencies and retooling at every level of the energy chain.

     




    LOL

     
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    Re: Frack The Europeans, Or, The Next American Boom

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    And hopefully not the next american bubble.

    But since the Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, your thread title is misplaced and...snarky.

     Did you sharpen your bayonets yet today?

     

     



    Liberals hate when the private sector succeeds...and the government solutions fail...which is most of the time.
    So,  European factories locating in the US is a bad thing?

     

    The Europeans will benefit from cheap gas, damn right...and so will the US...it is a "win-win" The beauty of the free enterprise system...as opposed to the top down government cronyism you all favor.



    you didn't build that....

    that's the standard liberal reply when the private sector succeeds.

     

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