General thread for Obama's inauguration

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    With Barack Obama's inauguration as the country's 44th president and the first African-American to hold the office, the world is watching the nation's capital today.

    What are your thoughts as this historic event nears? Are you proud of the country? Excited about the Obama era? Are you worried for the future and wishing McCain won?

    Talk about it here.
     
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    As an American, I wish him the best of luck as his demise is our nation's. Notwithstanding, the fanatics whom blindly voted for this person without giving him a second look, thereby ignoring his lackluster resume and his illogical ideology, shouldn't get too intoxicated tomorrow while staying warm in their cloak of "hope" and "change" (whatever that means). If these terms mean an era of protectionism, isolationism and laissez-faire domestic and foreign policies, then such change should be not only be discouraged but blasphemed as already proven failures of the past.

    Still amazes me that a guy like this could deceive the public of this country so well and defeat a consummate and time-tested American hero such as Sen. McCain. For that reason, I am not as excited as others about tomorrow's events.

    What scares me most is what these Obama-fanatics will do when he doesn't live up to the "messiah" image folks have made of him. Negative fanaticism is worse.

    My only "hope" is that we do not "change" the fundamentals as Obama has spewed previously in his campaign rhetoric.
    We must refrain from ignorance and slogans.

    As the great Ronald Reagan had said, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."

    Hopefully Obama hands the next generation such as Reagan did for mine. I know Sen. McCain would have if provided the opportunity.

     
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    Obama is ruined from Day One if he listens to leftist loons like Keith Olberman.
    Olbermann, in his latest "Special Comment," called on President-elect Barack Obama to prosecute President Bush and administration members on a charge of torturing prisoners.
    When Bush took office, there was an investigation of whether his predecessor Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich was rank bribery. Bush did not pursue this, following a tradition of looking forward, and doing what was good for the country, not just for his Party.
    If Bush is charged by this partisan witch hunt, then Pelosi and other Democrats have to go to the slammer too, since they knew and approved of enhanced interrogation methods.
     
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    1) To me the inauguration of an African-American is significant, but not life-changing. However, it IS to the tens of millions of minorities in this country who, rightly or wrongly, were convinced that their racial heritage precluded them from achieving real success in this country. A hugh proportion have suddenly had reality fail to conform to their preconceptions, and there may well be tangible results - in the inner city, crime and illegal drug use may go down, schools may stop failing, the cycle of poverty may slowly, slowly start to be broken. Those of us with white skin cannot understand how transformative this is to many of those with other skin colors...and their success relieves everyone else's burden.

    2) Another group suffering cognitive dissonance are the true ideological conservatives who dominate this board. Their belief system has Obama as the most liberal senator, a socialist even a marxist. Yet everything he as done since the election would indicate that he is very much the centrist, with no real left-wing proposals on the table and vanishingly few leftish cabinet appointments. The liberals are aware of this and feel betrayed. The conservatives seem to have much greater difficulty accepting reality when it does not conform to their preconceptions. There may well be some brains exploding.

    3) Obama has already reached out to Republicans in a spirit of bipartisanship which has not been seen in Washington in more than a generation. He has consulted closely and ernestly with John McCain about cabinet picks, and he has been vigorously courting the support of conservatives. It is worth listening to this speech as it may mark a turning point in partisan rancor, as Obama works to find common ground in the US.
     
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    I am forced to watch because I teach in a MA school that is making it mandated viewing. I can only pretend to be happy, though. We have already seen his leaning to rule from the left, and his unabashed freedom at using executive orders to bypass the Congress. I am also disturbed by the circus atmosphere. We are in a recession, yet he hires Hollywood stars and top selling music artists to begin the party two days before the actual inauguration. The fact that he is so joined at the hip with Hollywood and spending more than ever before on inauguration during this recession shows how far out of touch he is with the American people. I wish him luck, but his proposed tax increases on families making over 80k and his inordinate number of handouts to the masses will not help America. Today is the beginning of a period when America learns just how much worse things can actually get.
     
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    Obama didn't hire any stars or music artists. HBO did. And they paid their own way to DC to perform. Instead of making assumptions, why not try to learn the facts. Also, he can't have used any executive orders to bypass Congress. He ISN'T PRESIDENT YET! Are you willfully ignorant or just trying to stir up trouble?
     
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    "[Obama has already reached out to Republicans in a spirit of bipartisanship which has not been seen in Washington in more than a generation. He has consulted closely and ernestly with John McCain about cabinet picks, and he has been vigorously courting the support of conservatives"

    "not seen in a generation" Hyperbole alert! Any conservatives in the Cabinet? Any conservative ideas emanating from Obama?

    "turning point in partisan rancor" ? It was the Left who viciously attacked the man and the office for 8 years.
    If Obama listens to them and allows a witch hunt investigation of the patriots who saved the country from more 9/11 s, so much for supposed 'bipartisanship'.
     
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    I am excited about this Inauguration. I hope (being optomistic here) that all opressed segments of society band together and demand equal rights. I also hope that black people, as a whole, will learn from Obama. Learn that if you speak in the correct manner, dress in the correct manner, conduct yourself in the correct manner, then yes, you can achive any position you work hard for.
     
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    Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the
    world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Islam-Arabic, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Islamic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he
    pretends he is exclusively.

    What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners.
     
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    [Quote]Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the
    world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Islam-Arabic, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Islamic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he
    pretends he is exclusively.

    What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners.
    [/Quote]

    That any of this should matter to you in the slightest proves nothing, except perhaps that intolerance and ignorance comes in all shapes and sizes. Only a complete bigot or unburnished fool would ever think that a man - an American man - would need to be a descendant of slaves to consider himself an "African-American".

    If you ever wonder what the obstacles to progress and enlightenment in our society and our culture look like, take a glance in the mirror.
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from Mass2Wyom. Show Mass2Wyom's posts

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    [Quote]

    Does your "O" tattoo stand for Obama or Oprah ??.. same diff.[/Quote]

    Are you assuming I voted for Obama/like Oprah? Why do you think that? Because I questioned the "facts" Butch presented? I guess you think your little ad hominem attack is funny. Yawn.
     
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    Good luck to outgoing President Bush and Good luck to incoming President Obama.
    And most of all, God Bless the United States of America.
    We need to all be united (as we should have been for the last 200+ years) in these critical next few years.

     
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    [Quote]Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the
    world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    Ummmm. No resume? No accomplishments? Never went to Harvard Law? Never got elected to the U.S. Senate? He sat in a room for 40 years and popped out to run for President?

    Look out, the dittoheads are on the march. The crap some people will swallow and regurgitate is unreal.
     
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    SO THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY ENDS-TO THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE!” Senator Padme Amidala
     
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    If he disappoints 80% of the people who voted for him, it will be a succcessful presidency.

    I find many things alarming because people don't realize that this magical-mystery-tour gig is not sustainable:

    **Kenya thinks they have an American President and will become rich!
    **People seem to think he's going to relieve them from debt.
    **People seem to think they're free current rides will be magically transformed into some lavish lifestyle and still not have to work.
    **People here illegally think they are entitled to more than Americans but insist that Americans foot the bill for their unAmerican lives. Remember - entitlement means taking what you haven't earned. Being an American citizen has privileges and being forced to provide for all other backward country freeloaders here costs us in many, many ways.
    **This inauguration is being compared to a Muslim pilgrimage on network TV.
    **Obama has already asked for forgiveness for his mistakes!
    **An elected official from MD actually believes that MD's brink of financial disaster is less important than having a black president! Who are these people. Imagine if McCain were being inaugurated and someone made a similar reference.


    So, only NOW people feel patriotic? That's supposed to make us feel warm and fuzzy? Get real people: we will always have ONE leader and a semblence of a balance of power from which to govern. The fact that people were driven to not salute the flag or put down our country as their voices screamed discontent as though they are singularly important is telling. Hollywood outdid itself as did network TV, libral colleges (been there - it's incredible) and school systems with all the hype surrounding Obama. Ask any student or non-working person who voted for the first time WHY they voted for Obama - talk about alarming! Many have no clue, but they can tell you this, 'we want change'.

    I only hope that Obama realizes that he is a US President with responsibility to the United States and its citizens and will protect our constitutional rights. There is a reason that our forefathers made tremendous sacrafices to make that a reality. We have been steadily working away from that document and it is time that every American understand EVERY important document that has defined our nation. We have a great history (albeit, not perfect) and much of what has been written was done so to protect this nation's interests and its people. Change is necessary, but ask any student the significance of the Monroe Doctrine for example. Many probably never heard of it.

    TIME did a series on the 100 documents that defined our nation. It is time for EVERY citizen (especially in school) to become familiar with them before dismembering our past and determine a better future. We're a stupid people (contemporary - Jay walking - very funny - and sadly, very telling) who may be easily led down a wrong path for the sake of change.

    This is not a time for hype. This is not a time for change just for the sake of change. It is time for true leadership in this country. I envy Obama's challenge, and can only hope that he is a man with a vision for every American. America first! When we stop placing ethnicity before 'American' to describe ourselves, we will be one. It is about time we start facing that reality. Could this be the change we seek?
     
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    [Quote]"[Obama has already reached out to Republicans in a spirit of bipartisanship which has not been seen in Washington in more than a generation. He has consulted closely and ernestly with John McCain about cabinet picks, and he has been vigorously courting the support of conservatives"

    "not seen in a generation" Hyperbole alert! Any conservatives in the Cabinet? Any conservative ideas emanating from Obama?

    "turning point in partisan rancor" ? It was the Left who viciously attacked the man and the office for 8 years.
    If Obama listens to them and allows a witch hunt investigation of the patriots who saved the country from more 9/11 s, so much for supposed 'bipartisanship'.[/Quote]


    I apologize in advance for providing facts that do not conform to your preconceptions, Bob. Perhaps you can dismiss then because the source is not Fox News.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/us/politics/19mccain.html?_r=2&ref=politics

    WASHINGTON — Not long after Senator John McCain returned last month from an official trip to Iraq and Pakistan, he received a phone call from President-elect Barack Obama.

    As contenders for the presidency, the two had hammered each other for much of 2008 over their conflicting approaches to foreign policy, especially in Iraq. (He’d lose a war! He’d stay a hundred years!) Now, however, Mr. Obama said he wanted Mr. McCain’s advice, people in each camp briefed on the conversation said. What did he see on the trip? What did he learn?

    It was just one step in a post-election courtship that historians say has few modern parallels, beginning with a private meeting in Mr. Obama’s transition office in Chicago just two weeks after the vote. On Monday night, Mr. McCain will be the guest of honor at a black-tie dinner celebrating Mr. Obama’s inauguration.

    Over the last three months, Mr. Obama has quietly consulted Mr. McCain about many of the new administration’s potential nominees to top national security jobs and about other issues — in one case relaying back a contender’s answers to questions Mr. McCain had suggested.

    Mr. McCain, meanwhile, has told colleagues “that many of these appointments he would have made himself,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a close McCain friend.

    Fred I. Greenstein, emeritus professor of politics at Princeton, said: “I don’t think there is a precedent for this. Sometimes there is bad blood, sometimes there is so-so blood, but rarely is there good blood.”

    It is “trademark Obama,” Professor Greenstein said, noting that Mr. Obama’s impulse to win over even ideological opposites appeared to date at least to his friendships with conservatives on The Harvard Law Review when he was president.

    Mr. Obama arrived for their Chicago meeting on Nov. 16 with several well-researched proposals to collaborate on involving some of Mr. McCain’s favorite causes, including a commission to cut “corporate welfare,” curbing waste in military procurement and an overhaul of immigration rules.

    “The corporate welfare commission and military acquisition reform are two things the president-elect wants to do very soon,” Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama’s chief of staff and a participant in the meeting, said in an interview. The new administration is already preparing to introduce legislation echoing a previous McCain bill on the commission idea, Mr. Emanuel said, adding, “We have been very respectful and solicitous of his ideas.”

    Mr. Graham, who accompanied Mr. McCain to the meeting, said Mr. Obama took a notably different tone toward Iraq than he had during the campaign, emphasizing the common ground in their views.

    “He said that he understands that we had differences but he wanted to let us know that he also understands that we have got to be responsible in how we leave Iraq,” Mr. Graham recalled. “What the Obama-Biden administration has talked about is not losing the gains we have achieved. ”

    He added, “Obama does not want to be the guy who lost Iraq when it is close to being won.”

    Mr. Emanuel, whose only previous contact with Mr. Graham was negotiating the terms of the presidential debates, began calling him more than once a week to follow up. “Constantly,” Mr. Emanuel said. “There has been a running dialogue.”

    Mr. Graham, in turn, called his counterpart “a pleasure to do business with.”

    Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., a friend since Mr. McCain was the Navy’s liaison to the Senate three decades ago, has also played intermediary. He called Mr. McCain to ask him to appear at the inaugural dinner, and he invited Mr. Graham on another recent trip to Iraq and Afghanistan.

    “I know the vice president-elect is very concerned about the end game in Iraq,” Mr. Graham said.

    Some Senate Democrats have complained that Mr. Obama failed to seek their contributions about certain appointments — notably Leon E. Panetta as director of the Central Intelligence Agency. But the Obama transition team has consistently sought advice and feedback from Mr. McCain, the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, on national security appointments, Mr. Emanuel and Mr. Graham both said.

    Mr. Graham said Mr. McCain had enthusiastically supported those appointments: Gen. James L. Jones (an old McCain friend) as national security adviser; Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, the retired Army chief of staff, as secretary of veterans affairs; Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state; and most of all, retaining Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates.

    “Picking Gates is a good statement that they are not going to pull out of Iraq in a way that undercuts the gains achieved,” Mr. Graham said.

    Mr. Obama’s cultivation of Mr. McCain is a stark contrast with the practices of past presidents. After the 2004 election, President Bush did not talk to his defeated opponent, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, until Mr. Kerry visited the White House in March 2005 as part of a large group to celebrate the Red Sox victory in the World Series. (“I like to see Senator Kerry,” Mr. Bush said, “except when we’re fixing to debate.”) And after Mr. Bush defeated Mr. McCain for the Republican nomination in 2000, the two had only perfunctory contact and often-adversarial relations for nearly two years.

    Shortly before his second inauguration, former President Bill Clinton awarded his defeated opponent, Bob Dole, the Medal of Freedom. But it was an entirely ceremonial event. (Mr. Dole joked that had hoped to be at the White House picking up “the front door key” instead.)

    Mr. Graham said he and Mr. McCain were convinced that Mr. Obama was genuinely interested in working together with them on both domestic priorities and foreign policy.

    “Not only is it good politics,” Mr. Graham said, “it gives you an insight into who we are dealing with.”
     
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    This is a big day, but any inauguration day is. But, come on, the hype and $$$ this is costing is crazy. Haven't people tried for MANY years for there not to be a difference in race, but here many are PROMOTING the difference in race. And, let us not forget, he is half white. So, he is not the first African American president. He if the first 1/2 WHITE 1/2 Arican American. He doesn't seem to want to promote that. I guess there is more news the other way. Anyone else think the MILLIONS of dollars could have been used a little better??? What is going on with the US economy and it looks like we can throw out $150 million dollars. I find it a disgrace. The guy has done nothing yet, and he has this following. Sort of sad. Maybe if all that are so much involved with Mr. Obama were with all things, this sure would be a different place to live. I wish him/us well, but before we praise him as a God, let him set foot inside the Whitehouse and do SOMETHING.
     
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    I keep hearing the word inauguration, but why does this feel more like a coronation? I am a big Obama supporter, however I feel that putting a president up on a pedestal as a savior is an act of a 3rd-world country. This is America...and we humble our leaders!

     
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    I am not convinced that Obama is the second coming.....frankly, I don't care about what his wife is wearing, the letter he sent to his children....or the celebrities that are endorsing him...eerily similar to the Clinton Administration. All I have been hearing is that they are bringing back the social scene in Washington....yea, party party party....well, I hope 1/2 the country was right in voting for him... yes people, we are still divided...although he won "electorally"..... 1/2 the country voted for him....HALF, not ALL..... He is also rich and privelaged, so how is he different from anyone else in higher office?.... when all the smoke has subsided, then the real politician will come out...and frankly, that is scary.
     
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    I have waited 8 years for this day. This is not the time to whine and wax philosophic about the outcome of the election or to take pot shots at our new leader. Give the man a chance, my God!
     
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    Im very pleased for the new president and the way America is turning but i am also worried. Not for the "survival of the US" but for the president and his family. Its impossible for Obama to live up to the dreams that the world has for him. He is not a god, the messiah, or even superman; he is simply a courageous and determined man who was in the right situation, at the right time, and wasn't afraid to try. He is not, however, going to save the entire world. I do think he will do some good if he does not get constantly railroaded by vicious party politics, bad feelings, and violent radicals. Before anyone attacks me too harshly, i should say that thought Bush could also have done some good but he WAS railroaded by party politics, bad feelings, and violent radicals. I am also worried about Obama's safety and that of his family. It is almost impossible to stop an assassin who is willing to give his life as we know from our experiences with suicide bombers. We dont need any more good men or women becoming martyrs. I pray that he will be kept safe and allowed to do some good for America in his time at the White House.
     
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    [Quote]“SO THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY ENDS-TO THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE!” Senator Padme Amidala[/Quote]

    +1
     
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    Give him a chance because you KNOW with no real leadership experience he's just gonna be able to run the entire US Government with ease.
     
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    As an American to FINALLY elect a bi-racial President, I am very proud and glad this "hurdle" is finally over...but how it happened is shameful.
    Americans bought into this massive media driven hype of hope and change. Listening to national talk shows on my XM radio and listening to local stations, it is unignorable how many people asked about Obama's policies and direction had NO CLUE about anything he stood for. Americans bought the hype hook, line and sinker on the fact that they were sick of the president of the last eight years. We as a people elected a President with a lack of facts, complete faith and our fingers crossed. The media had this guy pegged as the next Messiah and 55% of the voting public never questined it.
    The media continued to hype this as the biggest event ever ever and no one blinks that a country that is so cash strapped is spending 150 million dollars (three times the biggest inauguration) for this event. Again, people bought into this hook, line and sinker. For some reason, schools find it almost mandatory to have our students watch the inauguration as a great way to expose the students to politics and historical moments. I was in school from Reagan through Clinton and no class I ever took any moment of our day to watch the inauguration of our President. EVERY INAUGURATION IS A HISTORICAL MOMENT! EVERY SINGLE ONE, WHETHER WE LIKE HIM OR NOT, IS A HISTORICAL MOMENT! EVERY inauguration should be a mandatory moment in schools, not just for civics and political classes or singled out for Presidents we like!

    I will not be taking out any more time for Obama's inauguration than I have for any other President I've voted for or was too young to vote for.

    This country of sheep-people have already annointed his Presidency a success a month before he was even in office. They've already considered his speech as historic before he's even spoken a word of it. Tomorrow, I am going to wake up and nothing is going to have changed excpet that he's already backed out of a couple of his campaign promises. I just don't know when everyone else will "wake up".

    Finally, people are talking out of both sides of their mouths. They talk about not seeing color in the same sentence as electing the first African Anerican/black president. As long as we continue to refer to him as the "black" or "African American" President, this country will be in the same place it was the day before the election. Color will ALWAYS remain an issue if we continue to refer to Obama in terms of color.

     
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    It's amazing to me that people can call Obama a socialist, yet we the people are footing the bill to bail out some of the wealthiest individuals in the world while they take a vacation.

    And to the ignoramus who commented on the cost of the "circus," I'm only hoping that one of the first things Obama does in office is to return the $435,000 dinnerware that the former dipsh*t first lady thought was necessary for the White House. Good riddance.
     
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