GOP Gov Kasich Refers to His Faith to Explain Ohio Medicaid Expansion

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    GOP Gov Kasich Refers to His Faith to Explain Ohio Medicaid Expansion

    The Bible runs [Ohio Gov Kasich's (R)] life “not just on Sunday, but just about every day,” he said in his annual State of the State address Tuesday.

    “And I’ve got to tell you, I can’t look at the disabled, I can’t look at the poor, I can’t look at the mentally ill, I can’t look at the addicted and think we ought to ignore them,” he told the audience of about 1,700 lawmakers, state officials and other guests. […]

    “Put it in your family,” Kasich said. “Put somebody that is in your family who becomes the wayward child. And they come home one day, they can’t get a job. Put it on your doorstep, and you’ll understand how hard it is.”

    Kasich was raised Catholic and worships regularly in an Anglican church. For more than 20 years, he has met every other Monday with a small group of men to study the Bible. And he has written a book about how the experience has helped him in his search for answers.

     

    Bonus:

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) wasn’t as explicitly religious as Kasich when he announced his own support for Medicaid expansion, but he did come close. Scott said his mother, who passed away last year, taught him that “America’s greatness is largely because of how we value the weakest among us.”

     

     

     
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    It must really burn you up when religion is cited in promoting your foolish liberal ideas.

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....



    Similarly, I can respect someone's faith-based argument for abortion even if I don't agree with it.

    I'm funny that way.  Atheism is not predicated on a lack of compassion, though your typically ideological mind might think it is.  (I'm not an atheist, btw.)

     

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     

     

     

    good post.

    The thing is, no where in the gospel does it say government should take care of the hungry, the poor, the downtrodden.  It says we, individuals, are responsible for that work.

    So, by all means, let's separate church and state.  First up: end all social programs and turn them back over to the people.

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     



    Similarly, I can respect someone's faith-based argument for abortion even if I don't agree with it.

     

    I'm funny that way.  Atheism is not predicated on a lack of compassion, though your typically ideological mind might think it is.  (I'm not an atheist, btw.)

     



    Be careful, you could hurt your arm by patting yourself on the back so vigorously.

     
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    It must really burn you up when religion is cited in promoting your foolish liberal ideas.



    Not really.  Jesus leaned more liberal than conservative, after all.

    I don't think it burns any more than, say, someone quoting the quran to espouse your pseudo-conservative ideas.

    Secularists regularly catch heat from all angles, so I'm used to it.

     

     
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    Be careful, you could hurt your arm by patting yourself on the back so vigorously.

     



    And you could break yours from masturbating to pics of Reagan on his horse so feverishly.

     

     

     
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    Jesus leaned more liberal than conservative, after all.




    Matty, an understandable mistake, many progressives make this error.

    So, one more time:

    Jon Stewart and Stepehen Colbert are comedians and make snarky remarks,  they do not dispense eternal truths.

     
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    Congrats.  What do you want?  An award? : )

     



    A Thank You would suffice.

     

     
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    Invoking god as a factor in deciding to expand medicare is nothing but pandering and a very shrewd way of trying to avoid the ire of conservative evangelical voters who were conditioned to beleive Obama is the anti christ and that the implementation ACA would eventually land them square in front of a death panel. 

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     

     

     

    good post.

    The thing is, no where in the gospel does it say government should take care of the hungry, the poor, the downtrodden.  It says we, individuals, are responsible for that work.

    So, by all means, let's separate church and state.  First up: end all social programs and turn them back over to the people.



    The people have chosen the government to help those that cannot help themselves through social programs.  It's been going on since the mid 1800s.  Where have you been?

    And have you ever heard of the social gospel?  Our reform movements have often been rooted in the religious conviction that we should act COLLECTIVELY to improve the lot of the downtrodden.

    You don't know compassion, it is alien to your mindset.  Odd that you call yourself a Christian...

     
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    It must really burn you up when religion is cited in promoting your foolish liberal ideas.

     



    Not really.  Jesus leaned more liberal than conservative, after all.

     

    I don't think it burns any more than, say, someone quoting the quran to espouse your pseudo-conservative ideas.

    Secularists regularly catch heat from all angles, so I'm used to it.

     



    Clearly it is burning you up, as you try to layer today's liberal politics on top of Jesus.  Blaspemous.

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     



    Similarly, I can respect someone's faith-based argument for abortion even if I don't agree with it.

     

    I'm funny that way.  Atheism is not predicated on a lack of compassion, though your typically ideological mind might think it is.  (I'm not an atheist, btw.)

     

     



    Congrats.  What do you want?  An award? : )

     



    He simply wants you to believe his big lie. Marty spends an inordinate amount of time slamming Christianity in particular.

     
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     

     

     

    good post.

    The thing is, no where in the gospel does it say government should take care of the hungry, the poor, the downtrodden.  It says we, individuals, are responsible for that work.

    So, by all means, let's separate church and state.  First up: end all social programs and turn them back over to the people.

     



    The people have chosen the government to help those that cannot help themselves through social programs.  It's been going on since the mid 1800s.  Where have you been?

     

    And have you ever heard of the social gospel?  Our reform movements have often been rooted in the religious conviction that we should act COLLECTIVELY to improve the lot of the downtrodden.

    You don't know compassion, it is alien to your mindset.  Odd that you call yourself a Christian...

     



    The social gospel, liberation theology, and the like is socialist nonsense with a cross.  Don't fall for it. It is a pack of commie lies.  Read up off some of the work of Father Torres.  

     

    my observation stands.  The gospel NEVER indicates that government is responsible for feeding and clothing the poor.  Tough it clearly indicates that we as individuals are responsible.  Read Matthew 25. It will open your eyes, hopefully your mind and heart as well.

     

    nice that you got the anti Christian jab in at the end.  But, I know I will be persecuted by people like you for following Jesus.  Jesus said as much.  Read Matthew 5.

     
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    Matty the atheist bitterly clinging to religious beliefs of pols discussing why they decide to take billions in federal aid...

    Kasich is sincere, I repect what he is saying. However,  and it doesnt sound like he is claiming the Bible mandates the omnipotent federal government must spend 89 bazillion dollars for the inefficient fraud-riddled  Medicaid program, not 88 bazilion. Nor is he saying that Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Catholic as well, is going to hell for not agreeing to surrender state sovereinty to administer the unpopular massive federal government takeover of private heath care , known as ObamaCare. 

    I do know for sure, if Kasich cited to his religion to explain his pro-life views, he would have been rudely mocked and libs would have lectured us on "separation of church and state"....

     

     

     

    good post.

    The thing is, no where in the gospel does it say government should take care of the hungry, the poor, the downtrodden.  It says we, individuals, are responsible for that work.

    So, by all means, let's separate church and state.  First up: end all social programs and turn them back over to the people.

     



    The people have chosen the government to help those that cannot help themselves through social programs.  It's been going on since the mid 1800s.  Where have you been?

     

    And have you ever heard of the social gospel?  Our reform movements have often been rooted in the religious conviction that we should act COLLECTIVELY to improve the lot of the downtrodden.

    You don't know compassion, it is alien to your mindset.  Odd that you call yourself a Christian...

    And you foolishly define "compassion" as spending more tax dollars, whether the program works or not.  With your public sector bent, you have a pecuniary interest in supporting high taxes and more government...you have no compassion for taxpayers, though.

    The federal "war on poverty" has spent trillions without measurably improving the lot of the downtrodden, but has improved the lot of millions of useless paper-pushing public sector bureaucrats..if one was cyncial, one might think that was the goal all along....

    Your post reinforces the idea that to liberals, Government is the Deity...you have endless faith that government bureaucratic programs work miracles, facts be damned.

     
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    It must really burn you up when religion is cited in promoting your foolish liberal ideas.

     



    Not really.  Jesus leaned more liberal than conservative, after all.

     

    I don't think it burns any more than, say, someone quoting the quran to espouse your pseudo-conservative ideas.

    Secularists regularly catch heat from all angles, so I'm used to it.

     

     



    Clearly it is burning you up, as you try to layer today's liberal politics on top of Jesus.  Blaspemous.

     



    I'm just having a go at the one thing conservatives do well - point out religious motives..

    It's only blaspheme if I'm a believer in the sanctity of Jesus.  I'm not.

    He WAS mostly liberal, though, by today's standard.  Sorry you can't accept that.

     

     
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    Funny how people who hate religion (selectively of course) are the first to play their phoney violins of the dewntrodden.

    They are no doubt the 2 faced liars who do things for political (and probably their OWN financial) gains.


    I reject all religions equally, but I have no problems with faith expressed honestly.

    Maybe you should address the so-called "christians" who want to deny poor people access to basic medical services...all while some of their leaders make huge profits at their mega-churches while begging for money on television.

     

     
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    It must really burn you up when religion is cited in promoting your foolish liberal ideas.

     



    Not really.  Jesus leaned more liberal than conservative, after all.

     

    I don't think it burns any more than, say, someone quoting the quran to espouse your pseudo-conservative ideas.

    Secularists regularly catch heat from all angles, so I'm used to it.

     

     



    Clearly it is burning you up, as you try to layer today's liberal politics on top of Jesus.  Blaspemous.

     

     



    I'm just having a go at the one thing conservatives do well - point out religious motives..

     

    It's only blaspheme if I'm a believer in the sanctity of Jesus.  I'm not.

    He WAS mostly liberal, though, by today's standard.  Sorry you can't accept that.

     

     



    Resist the demons rattling around in your head Matty.  Blasphemy depends on not what you think, but what god thinks on the matter.

    it would help if you were a believer.  You might learn that grace, not works, is what saves.  It would give you some perspective to your false witness about my Christianity.  It would cause you to mourn your sin.  I do every day.

     
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    Funny how people who hate religion (selectively of course) are the first to play their phoney violins of the dewntrodden.

    They are no doubt the 2 faced liars who do things for political (and probably their OWN financial) gains.

     

     


    I reject all religions equally, but I have no problems with faith expressed honestly.

    Maybe you should address the so-called "christians" who want to deny poor people access to basic medical services...all while some of their leaders make huge profits at their mega-churches while begging for money on television.

     



    So, if you reject all religions equally, on what basis do you call out Christians on their beliefs, which apparently you neither understand or believe,if you did understand them?

    kinda like commenting on brain surgery by a butcher.

     
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    Resist the demons rattling around in your head Matty.  Blasphemy depends on not what you think, but what god thinks on the matter.


    Except there is no god, so I'm not a sinner.

    But what I believe in my heart depends even LESS upon what YOU think.

     

     
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    So, if you reject all religions equally, on what basis do you call out Christians on their beliefs, which apparently you neither understand or believe,if you did understand them?

    kinda like commenting on brain surgery by a butcher.



    I understand them just fine, which is why I rejected their superstitions for a more holistic approach to faith.  I was a churchgoer for many years, just like you say you are.  And then I was reborn, so to speak.

    I'm calling out the charlatans in both parties who profess to the teachings of Jesus, then conveniently forget them when their personal space and preferences take a hit.  Kasich's expressed thoughts are more authentically christian in that regard (as they would be if he were a muslim, but he isn't).

     

     

     
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    "I'm calling out the charlatans in both parties who profess to the teachings of Jesus,"

    Really? Call out a few liberal Democrat charlatans, then, be interested to hear your professed "bipartisanship".

    More likely you will speak of , say, Sen Menendez,  by stating "at least they arent hypocrites"...

     

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