GOP House Science Member: "Global Warming Is A Total Fraud"

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    GOP House Science Member: "Global Warming Is A Total Fraud"

    Dana Rohrabacher, GOP House Science Committee Member: 'Global Warming Is A Total Fraud'

    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), a longtime member of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, recently brushed aside concern that the wildfires currently scorching across his state and causing millions of dollars of damage have anything to do with climate change. In fact, he told constituents at a town hall that "global warming is a total fraud," employed by liberals to "create global government."

    In a video captured by Lee Fang of The Nation, Rohrabacher laughed off a claim made last week by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) that the unusual intensity of this year's wildfire season should give rise to a more serious debate about how climate change is affecting the temperature and length of the dry season.

    "Just so you'll know, global warming is a total fraud and it's being designed because what you’ve got is you’ve got liberals who get elected at the local level want state government to do the work and let them make the decisions," Rohrabacher said. "Then, at the state level, they want the federal government to do it. And at the federal government, they want to create global government to control all of our lives."

    "It's step by step by step, more and bigger control over our lives by higher levels of government. And global warming is that strategy in spades," Rohrabacher said. "Our freedom to make our choices on transportation and everything else? No, that’s gotta be done by a government official who, by the way, probably comes from Nigeria because he’s a UN government official, not a US government official."

    Rohrabacher's climate change denialism and misunderstanding of science is well-documented. He's suggested that prehistoric climate change could have been caused by "dinosaur flatulence," and that clear-cutting rainforests would eliminate greenhouse gas production.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/dana-rohrabacher-global-warming_n_3743390.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

     
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    I haven't seen any proof of (what is it called today.. global warming.. earth ice age?) ohh climate change.

    Can you provide proof please?

     
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    Re: GOP House Science Member:

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    I haven't seen any proof of (what is it called today.. global warming.. earth ice age?) ohh climate change.

    Can you provide proof please?




    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

    Start here

     
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    If a lion is charging you, close your eyes. This will erase the lion from existence.




    As long as it's a real lion and not a figment created to intentionally foster fear for their own benefit.

     
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    If a lion is charging you, close your eyes. This will erase the lion from existence.

     

     




    As long as it's a real lion and not a figment created to intentionally foster fear for their own benefit.

     

     

     




    double p's .... how thick are the walls in your bunker ... now seriously .... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?

     

     
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    If a lion is charging you, close your eyes. This will erase the lion from existence.

     



    As long as it's a real lion and not a figment created to intentionally foster fear for their own benefit.

     

     



     

    That fails on so many levels.



    So, you are telling me that a lion is charging at me from behind.  I don't hear a thing, and I am not convinced that lions are roaming around the Bosotn streets.

    so, should I believe you, or go with common sense?

     
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    If a lion is charging you, close your eyes. This will erase the lion from existence.

     

     




    As long as it's a real lion and not a figment created to intentionally foster fear for their own benefit.

     

     

     




    double p's .... how thick are the walls in your bunker ... now seriously .... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?

     



    The progressive left has yet to make an aquaintance with common sense.

     
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    ".... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?"

    Doesnt have to be a "conspiracy", but Leftists have plenty to gain from scaring the public into subsidizing green energy scams.

    Ask Al Gore about that . First , he scared the public with his science-free fraud known as "An Inconvenient Truth'.

     Then Al Gore made hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the idea that mankind is destroying the planet through the use of fossil fuels.  His companies got Government contracts.

    Then he sold his network to Middle East fossil fuelers.....

     
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    Hey, Lil dubya scared y'all into a couple of wicked expensive stupid wars....

    So are you finally smartening up and/or just not buying into any thing again?

     
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    Hey, Lil dubya scared y'all into a couple of wicked expensive stupid wars....

    So are you finally smartening up and/or just not buying into any thing again?



    Scared who?

     
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    ".... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?"

    Doesnt have to be a "conspiracy", but Leftists have plenty to gain from scaring the public into subsidizing green energy scams.

    Ask Al Gore about that . First , he scared the public with his science-free fraud known as "An Inconvenient Truth'.

     Then Al Gore made hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the idea that mankind is destroying the planet through the use of fossil fuels.  His companies got Government contracts.

    Then he sold his network to Middle East fossil fuelers.....




    Br'er Crankup .... why do you always leave yourself wide open ........ The Oil Industry own countries and their armies ..... are you one of those types that refuses to but any appliance with label energy efficient on it ..... btw ... what do you think the true price of a gallon of gas  is  ... somewhere between $10 to $15 .....

     

     
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    ".... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?"

    Doesnt have to be a "conspiracy", but Leftists have plenty to gain from scaring the public into subsidizing green energy scams.

    Ask Al Gore about that . First , he scared the public with his science-free fraud known as "An Inconvenient Truth'.

     Then Al Gore made hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the idea that mankind is destroying the planet through the use of fossil fuels.  His companies got Government contracts.

    Then he sold his network to Middle East fossil fuelers.....

     




    Br'er Crankup .... why do you always leave yourself wide open ........ The Oil Industry own countries and their armies ..... are you one of those types that refuses to but any appliance with label energy efficient on it ..... btw ... what do you think the true price of a gallon of gas  is  ... somewhere between $10 to $15 .....

     

     




    Own huh?

    Did you get a license to make moonshine ?

     
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    Re: GOP House Science Member:

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    ".... what does the Left have to gain from a global warming , climate change or anything you want to call it conspiracy ?"

    Doesnt have to be a "conspiracy", but Leftists have plenty to gain from scaring the public into subsidizing green energy scams.

    Ask Al Gore about that . First , he scared the public with his science-free fraud known as "An Inconvenient Truth'.

     Then Al Gore made hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the idea that mankind is destroying the planet through the use of fossil fuels.  His companies got Government contracts.

    Then he sold his network to Middle East fossil fuelers.....

     

     




    Br'er Crankup .... why do you always leave yourself wide open ........ The Oil Industry own countries and their armies ..... are you one of those types that refuses to but any appliance with label energy efficient on it ..... btw ... what do you think the true price of a gallon of gas  is  ... somewhere between $10 to $15 .....

     

     

     

     




     

    Own huh?

    Did you get a license to make moonshine ?




    Is that the best you got ..... shoo little boy

     
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    Heck no SON... I know how easily you bruise.

    How are all those GREEN companys Barry poured our tax money into doinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg, Oopsie.

     
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    Heck no SON... I know how easily you bruise.

    How are all those GREEN companys Barry poured our tax money into doinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg, Oopsie.

     




    double p's ... I bruise but I don't go away .... I never ran from a bully in my life ... I ain't going to start running from a keyboard bully like you  ...... btw Mr Wizard what is the true price of a gallon of gas

     

     
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    If a lion is charging you, close your eyes. This will erase the lion from existence.

     



    If a lion MIGHT be charging you, take out your $7 trillion pea shooter and hope that you can survive.

     

     
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    NASA is an unbiased source?

     

    Hardly.

     
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    NASA is an unbiased source?

     

    Hardly.

    How does NASA find time to do research on global warming when their primary goal is muslim outreach?

     
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    How does NASA find time to do research on global warming when their primary goal is muslim outreach?


    NASA's primary mission is muslim outreach?

     

    Have another quart of fromaledhyde.



    "President Obama told NASA administrator Charles Bolden that his highest priority should be "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering." 

     
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    How does NASA find time to do research on global warming when their primary goal is muslim outreach?



    NASA's primary mission is muslim outreach?

     

     

    Have another quart of fromaledhyde.



    "President Obama told NASA administrator Charles Bolden that his highest priority should be "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering." 

     

     



    Bolden was talking about muslims in the context of outreach and international relations. 

     

    He was not discussing muslims in the context of NASA's primary missions of science, and aeronautics.

     

     
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    Data from hundreds of weather stations located around the U.S. appear to show the planet is getting warmer, but some critics say it's the government's books that are getting cooked -- thanks to temperature readings from sweltering parking lots, airports and other locations that distort the true state of the climate.

    Indeed, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has closed some 600 out of nearly 9,000 weather stations over the past two years that it has deemed problematic or unnecessary, after a long campaign by one critic highlighting the problem of using unreliable data. The agency says the closures will help improve gathering of weather data, but critics like meterologist and blogger Anthony Watts say it is too little, too late.

    "The question remains as to why they continue to use a polluted mix of well-sited and poorly-sited stations," Watts told FoxNews.com.

    'They continue to use a polluted mix of well-sited and poorly-sited stations.'

    - Anthony Watts

     

    Watts has for years searched for weather stations that have flaws. And he points to a still-open station at Yosemite park as an example of one with “heat sinks” – objects that store heat, and then release it at night. Heat sinks can cause stations located in or near them to give off useless data -- generally in the form of inflated temperatures not representative of the broader area.

    “The heat sinks are a road, a building, and stacked metal pipe and beams surrounding the station,” he said.

    After the heat sinks were added at Yosemite, temperature readings show a curious trend: minimum nighttime temperatures increased more than daytime temperatures. Watts says that's because the concrete structures store heat that is released at night, and that such a trend backs up the idea that the "heat sinks" are having an effect.

    But the government agency that compiles the temperature data says that such concerns are unfounded because of statistical methods used to adjust the data.

    "There is no doubt that NOAA's temperature record is scientifically sound and reliable," NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen told FoxNews.com. "To ensure accuracy of the record, scientists use peer-reviewed methods to account for all potential inaccuracies in the temperature readings such as changes in station location, instrumentation and replacement and urban heat effects."

    Smullen added that the recent station closures, which were made after "an extensive six-month review by all National Weather Service forecast offices," make the system even better.

    He said the agency considered several factors in shuttering stations, including whether their data was redundant, whether urban growth had rendered data invalid and if sites were transmitting reliable data. But Watts says that closures are something of a vindication of a years-long project to identify stations with problems.

    Some of the first official notice of Watts’ findings were in the leaked “Climate-gate” emails from 2009, in which the director of the National Climatic Data Center at the NOAA appeared to take Watts’ findings seriously.

    “He has a website of 40 of the USHCN [weather] stations showing less than ideal exposure. He claims he can show urban biases and exposure biases. We are writing a response for our Public Affairs. Not sure how it will play out,” Thomas Karl, the director, wrote in an internal email.

    Then the Government Accountability Office -- the government agency which issues reports evaluating other agencies -- looked into the issue of inappropriately-sited stations, interviewing Watts twice.

    In an August 2011 report titled “NOAA Can Improve Management of the U.S. Historical Climatology Network” the GAO concluded that “NOAA has not developed an agencywide policy… whether stations that do not adhere to siting standards should remain open… or should be moved or closed.”

    NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the NOAA’s recent review and closure of stations over the last two years is far more extensive than the investigation Watts conducted.

    “While some of the 600 sites we targeted for closure may overlap with some sites Mr. Watts has questioned, we understand that his study looked only at siting criteria at a 1,200-site subset of our overall network, while we reviewed the entire network, and siting criteria was just one factor we considered.”

    So how serious is the problem of poorly-sited stations for the overall historical climate record? And does it have implications about the extent of manmade global warming?

    Watts says it does, and that if one looks only at pristine stations, they show a temperature increase of 1.1° Farenheit over the years 1979 to 2008. That is noticeably lower than the government estimate of 1.7° Farenheit, which includes readings from all stations, including those with potential problems, which it tries to adjust for statistically.

    But many scientists concerned about global warming say that the statistical adjustments work, and they point out that many other measurements of temperature match closely with NOAA’s historical data.

    “Watts' analysis is an outlier… Analyses by several groups using global land temps, ocean temps, and satellite-inferred temps (no thermometers there!) show very similar warming rates [to the NOAA data],” Scott Mandia, a professor of physical sciences at SUNY Suffolk, said.

    Watts says he doesn’t dispute the satellite data.

    “I don’t dispute the satellite measurements, but they are measuring temperature of the atmosphere above the Earth, and that includes all cities and populated areas as well as rural open space… My premise is this: if you want to see the effect of CO2 on warming, you need to look in areas that have not been affected by urbanization to find the true signal.”

    In other words, Watts says the data show that global warming is due relatively more to increased urbanization than to greenhouse gases. Such a finding would be relevant for whether government should further restrict greenhouse gasses.

    “Questions should then be asked about… decisions all the way up the food chain,” Watts said.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/08/13/weather-station-closures-flaws-in-temperature-record/#ixzz2bsJl6gHk

     
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    In other words, Watts says the data show that global warming is due relatively more to increased urbanization than to greenhouse gases. Such a finding would be relevant for whether government should further restrict greenhouse gasses.

     

     


    Hence, "anthropomorphic climate change".

    The warming trend is observed in both rural and urban regions.  Obviously, we know urban areas are hotter, but this is irrelevant to the overall warming trend.

    So, global temps are rising, and so are global greenhouse gases.  Both are unequivocal, and the effect of the latter is just basic physics.

     

     
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    In other words, Watts says the data show that global warming is due relatively more to increased urbanization than to greenhouse gases. Such a finding would be relevant for whether government should further restrict greenhouse gasses.

     

     


    Hence, "anthropomorphic climate change".

    The warming trend is observed in both rural and urban regions.  Obviously, we know urban areas are hotter, but this is irrelevant to the overall warming trend.

    So, global temps are rising, and so are global greenhouse gases.  Both are unequivocal, and the effect of the latter is just basic physics.

     




    Thank you Doctor Spock.

    Tune in next week when Matty picks the winning lottery numbers.

    Baked, erroneous or mis-manipulated data is junk. Start over sonny.

     
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