GOP Leaders Warn Pro Sports Leagues Not To Promote Obamacare

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    GOP Leaders Warn Pro Sports Leagues Not To Promote Obamacare

    Because affordable healthcare is, you know, so evil.....................
     
     
    The republicans are pathetic.
     
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    Those Sports Owners better toe the line if they want anymore taxpayers money to build new stadiums !

     
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    Those Sports Owners better toe the line if they want anymore taxpayers money to build new stadiums !




    Yes, public financing of sports stadiums is okay, but affordable healthcare for citizens is evil................

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     




     

    He doesn`t get that Obamacare will cost more and provide less, proven over and over again. Is ACB so dumb that he thinks we could add approximately 30 million people and get better care? Cheaper?

    Obama supporters are "pathetic".

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    Awwe, did poor little bigdog have right wing tantrum again? LOL

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     




     

     

    He doesn`t get that Obamacare will cost more and provide less, proven over and over again. Is ACB so dumb that he thinks we could add approximately 30 million people and get better care? Cheaper?

    Obama supporters are "pathetic".

     

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    Awwe, did poor little bigdog have right wing tantrum again? LOL

     

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    Oh the irony....hahahaha

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

     
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    Because affordable healthcare is, you know, so evil.....................   http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/mcconnell-cornyn-letter-sports-leagues-obamacare.php   The republicans are pathetic.

    And, un-affordable, if you are actually following the news.


    the democrats are pathetic in insisting on proceeding with Obamacare, as it sux the wind out of our economy, both on the national and personal level.

     

     
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    Those Sports Owners better toe the line if they want anymore taxpayers money to build new stadiums !

     




    Yes, public financing of sports stadiums is okay, but affordable healthcare for citizens is evil................

     

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    Both are examples of abuse of the mandate of government in our lives.

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

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    You are right about the distinction between health care costs and health insurance costs.   The left for years has been promoting a non-issue, that access to healthcare is a right.  There has not in recent memeory been any denial of access to healthcare, unless you consider Michelle Obama's history dunmping poor patients from the hospitals where whe worked.

    More soft tyranny, less freedom, more government control.  that's the progressive agenda.

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

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    Don't confuse them with the facts....

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

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    And New Hampshire is right behind Mass on that score at $16,902, even without an individual mandate.  

    Did you read that whole report?  It actually makes quite the case for the ACA and even posits that more needs to be done to bring the insurance markets to heel.

     

     

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

     

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    And New Hampshire is right behind Mass on that score at $16,902, even without an individual mandate.  

     

    Did you read that whole report?  It actually makes quite the case for the ACA and even posits that more needs to be done to bring the insurance markets to heel.

     

     

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    Right....currently, having majority of MA residents covered has done jack sh!t to lower cost. I've been told the more people covered the lower the costs would be. Doesn't appear so. 

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

     

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    And New Hampshire is right behind Mass on that score at $16,902, even without an individual mandate.  

     

     

    Did you read that whole report?  It actually makes quite the case for the ACA and even posits that more needs to be done to bring the insurance markets to heel.

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Right....currently, having majority of MA residents covered has done jack sh!t to lower cost. I've been told the more people covered the lower the costs would be. Doesn't appear so. 

     

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    Proportionately, the costs would be lower.  As it is, Mass is a rich state with a much higher-than-average level of care per capita, so any cost containment would have to occur within the state...where the actual percentages of insured before and after reform were rather close.  The difference, I think, is about 4%.

    A certain financial crisis had something to do with the numbers, too.

    All of the projection models show that, initially, increased enrollment leads to a spike in spending (demand) which eventually flattens out and then dips after a period of time.  Records show that there have been some benefits, such as overall health improvements and up to 8% reduced emergency room visits.  Small but tangible gains.

    Of course, the suggestion is that premiums would have risen even higher without reform and some of the facts bear this out. 

     

     
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    Facts do not matter to the progressives...

    "ring the insurance market to heel". Yes,  everything would be great by them if it wasnt for the evil greedy private sector...

    Libs tell us Obamacare is just a minor adjustment to health care, no worries, how dare you call it socialism.!

    At the same time, they  know when Obamacare tanks, single payer is their 'emergency' solution....

     
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    Facts do not matter to the progressives...

    "ring the insurance market to heel". Yes,  everything would be great by them if it wasnt for the evil greedy private sector...


    You mean the "fact" that the profit motive was prevailing over healing the sick...?

    Right, because conservatives value money and capitalism above all other things, including life...(except maybe for pre-born life):  "You can't pay?  Go find a porch to crawl under and die."

    Generalizations are fun!

    All of america has dug overselves this healthcare hole after decades of neglect and poor choices, and we all have to help dig us out.  Why some conservatives seem to think they're exempt from lifting a shovel in beyond me when just as many of them think orange soda counts as a fruit and ketchup as a vegetable.

     

     

     
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    Facts do not matter to the progressives...

    "ring the insurance market to heel". Yes,  everything would be great by them if it wasnt for the evil greedy private sector...

     

     


    You mean the "fact" that the profit motive was prevailing over healing the sick...?

    Right, because conservatives value money and capitalism above all other things, including life...(except maybe for pre-born life):  "You can't pay?  Go find a porch to crawl under and die."

    Generalizations are fun!

    All of america has dug overselves this healthcare hole after decades of neglect and poor choices, and we all have to help dig us out.  Why some conservatives seem to think they're exempt from lifting a shovel in beyond me when just as many of them think orange soda counts as a fruit and ketchup as a vegetable.

     

     

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    There you go again, confusing healthcare with healthcare insurance.

    no one, NO ONE, is denied access to health care in this country, I.e., healing the sick.

    the hole we have dug with paying for health care is that government has been on a steady march, taking over the responsibility for more and more payments for health care. IT HASN'T WORKED.

    so, the solution, according to government is more control, to be followed shortly by completely socialized medicine.

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     

     

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

     

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

     

     

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    And New Hampshire is right behind Mass on that score at $16,902, even without an individual mandate.  

     

     

     

    Did you read that whole report?  It actually makes quite the case for the ACA and even posits that more needs to be done to bring the insurance markets to heel.

     

     

     

     

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    Right....currently, having majority of MA residents covered has done jack sh!t to lower cost. I've been told the more people covered the lower the costs would be. Doesn't appear so. 

     

     

     

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    Proportionately, the costs would be lower.  As it is, Mass is a rich state with a much higher-than-average level of care per capita, so any cost containment would have to occur within the state...where the actual percentages of insured before and after reform were rather close.  The difference, I think, is about 4%.

     

    A certain financial crisis had something to do with the numbers, too.

    All of the projection models show that, initially, increased enrollment leads to a spike in spending (demand) which eventually flattens out and then dips after a period of time.  Records show that there have been some benefits, such as overall health improvements and up to 8% reduced emergency room visits.  Small but tangible gains.

    Of course, the suggestion is that premiums would have risen even higher without reform and some of the facts bear this out. 

     

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    Let me net it out for you: everything government does is worse and more expensive. 

    your post is a pipe dream of liberal justification.

     
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     

     

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

     

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     

     

     

     

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    study released by the Commonwealth Fund in December reported Massachusetts has the highest health-insurance premiums in the nation for private, employer-sponsored plans.

    The study found that the average Massachusetts family health plan had a premium of $16,953 in 2011, compared to a national average of $15,022. The average premium for a individual plan was $5,823, compared to $5,222 nationally.

    These figures represent increases of 72 percent and 67 percent, respectively, since 2003 – far greater increases than the national average.

     

    But wait....aren't more people covered supposed to LOWER costs?

     

     

     

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    And New Hampshire is right behind Mass on that score at $16,902, even without an individual mandate.  

     

     

     

    Did you read that whole report?  It actually makes quite the case for the ACA and even posits that more needs to be done to bring the insurance markets to heel.

     

     

     

     

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    Right....currently, having majority of MA residents covered has done jack sh!t to lower cost. I've been told the more people covered the lower the costs would be. Doesn't appear so. 

     

     

     

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    Proportionately, the costs would be lower.  As it is, Mass is a rich state with a much higher-than-average level of care per capita, so any cost containment would have to occur within the state...where the actual percentages of insured before and after reform were rather close.  The difference, I think, is about 4%.

     

    A certain financial crisis had something to do with the numbers, too.

    All of the projection models show that, initially, increased enrollment leads to a spike in spending (demand) which eventually flattens out and then dips after a period of time.  Records show that there have been some benefits, such as overall health improvements and up to 8% reduced emergency room visits.  Small but tangible gains.

    Of course, the suggestion is that premiums would have risen even higher without reform and some of the facts bear this out. 

     

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    Pretty much all are covered yet premiums are rising higher than the average, which includes all the states that don't have nearly all covered. That ain't good. 

     
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    Hang on a second..where's Skeeter? He was just complaining about government over reach in business. Isn't this government over reach in business??

    " Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron

     
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    Re: GOP Leaders Warn Pro Sports Leagues Not To Promote Obamacare

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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

     



    Complete rubbish. 

     

    BTW I said "healthcare" because that was what was claimed by AlleyCatBruin.

    Apparently you need some education. Is Massachusetts the onlystate in the union? Has Obamcare actually gone into effect yet? Maybe I missed it. The truth is that you won't get to keep your plan if you like it -despite your pitiful example. 

    And really, do you know that Romneycare is NOT INSURANCE? Romneycare is a means of being forced to buy healthcare insurance from the private sector, or get a subsudy for it if you can't afford it. So how do you keep it if you can't get it.

     
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    Re: GOP Leaders Warn Pro Sports Leagues Not To Promote Obamacare

    In response to andiejen's comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    Got that leftwing echo chanber going now don't we? Obamacare is making healthcare more affordable??? That's a forking laugh. Got any other lies you'd like to spread? You know like "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"??? 

    Obamacare is a disaster in the making.

     



    How long have we had Romneycare here in MA?

     

    "you can keep your insurance plan if you like it"

     

    Well, Hansoribrother, we have had the insurance plan we wanted since Romneycare, and since Obamacare provisions have been kicking in. A double dose, if you will.

    And we are certainly not the only ones.

    You got more lies from the right wing echo chamber you want to try to get away with in the forums?

    Btw, health care and health insurance are related but two DIFFERENT topics. You seem to keep getting confused about this distinction. 

    Your post stated "health care". Was your "point" about health care or about health insurance, Hansoribrother?

    [/QUOTE]

    Not living in Mass, I am curious of how the healthcare really works there.

     
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    Re: GOP Leaders Warn Pro Sports Leagues Not To Promote Obamacare

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    And really, do you know that Romneycare is NOT INSURANCE? Romneycare is a means of being forced to buy healthcare insurance from the private sector, or get a subsudy for it if you can't afford it. 



    Just like 'Obamacare'....

     

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