GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

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    GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    The BS was almost chest deep from the GOP on why bringing the bill down to the floor had to be filabustered......of course there is almost global agreement on why this is needed....and even a few republicans also want this to happen but in their either being pressured by their leadership or just be obstructive, they still voted no.

    I believe this info is one key (but not the only) reason the conservatives want no reform....

    Officials said the Democratic plan on derivatives included many tougher provisions (...)
    one that is fiercely opposed by major banks because it would force them to spin off much of their derivatives business. The rules say any bank dealing in swaps, a popular and lucrative derivative, would be barred from the Federal Reserve’s emergency borrowing window and also from federal deposit insurance.

    This rule would go a long way to help prevent the Government and taxpayers to continue subsidizing the casino atmosphere the banks want to continue. Now yes there are some on both sides who are completely bank owned and some that have taken money but the GOP is a wholly owned subsidiary of the banking industry...so before you start whining about the president, make sure  you have made an effort to ask your GOP reps and senators to give back their banking  money as well. Ben Nelson is a problem for the dems as well...as he is one Dem who is bank owned. Mitch McConnell unfortunately has a very brown nose with Bankers along with John Bohner.

    Another issue here is Lindsay Graham with his BS about his support for climate being junked because of immigration......and he also voted no on this bill despite his whining about giving immigration priority...so the lies have poor Lindsay all twisted in knots.....

    This is a key bill, so the american people know this is what they want to see and they will punish the GOP for obstruction....so keep it up....it hurts you not the Dems.

    Oh yes, using polls that favor what they bleat about is what the wingnuts here love to do so here are some polls which should based on the methods they argue with bring them on board to support this bill. (as if)

    2/3 of Americans support this .......see link 


    BTW: (if you go to the pollster's site cross tabs are available as well for the poll - this is something the wingnuts will never offer up as rassmussen never makes  his publically available so you never know how he asks any question and what context) - wingnuts don't want you to know how and where they get their "facts"

    Its time to get this passed, and there is a lot of support so stop blocking and get to work for once but the do not want to discus publically, they want a deal in (gasp) a backroom.....which alledgedly conservatives hate but its just more BS

    STOP FILABUSTERING EVERY BILL, THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    It is filibuster, not filabuster, you leftwing loon.
     
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    Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    Before President Obama continues to go around accusing others of lacking legitimacy, he should read the official cost estimate of the financial regulation bill released by the Congressional Budget Office last Thursday. Assessing the budgetary impact of the $50 billion that “systemically important financial firms” would have to pay in assessments to pay for the bill’s “Orderly Resolution Fund,” the CBO writes:

    The total amount collected from assessments is estimated to be about $58 billion through 2020. But such assessments would become an additional business expense for companies required to pay them. Those additional expenses would result in decreases in taxable income somewhere in the economy, which would produce a loss of government revenue from income and payroll taxes that would partially offset the revenue collected from the assessment itself.

    In other words, these financial firms have to get that $58 billion dollars from somewhere, and that somewhere is you. Now the Obama administration may argue that they actually oppose the creation of the resolution fund. But American taxpayers should be even more frightened when they find out why the Obama administration opposes it. The New York Times reports: “The Obama administration does not support the $50 billion fund, partly out of concern that more money may be needed if one or more big financial firms ever collapse and that creating a fund could make it difficult to authorize more money."
    The corrupt dems love bailouts.....

     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    It is filibuster, not filabuster, you leftwing loon.
    Posted by BobinVa


    Hey Bobin VA,

    What are you doing here?

    Spamming for the right wing again are we?  Look at that, BobinVA is spamming us Bay Staters again.  

    The nerve of some people..Nobody still awake in Va Bobby boy?  

    So this is what you do when you're alone is it?  

    Railing and ranting about the government is it?

    I wouldn't have the nerve, I'll give you that!
     
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    That's the end of this press conference. See you at the next scripted Q&A session.

    Newt, can I speak to you a moment? Sorry but we have to pull your press credentials. That question was not in the list of approved questions.
     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    "......of course there is almost global agreement on why this is needed" Really? OK, if there is almost "global agreement" then you must know what it is that is agreed upon and what there is in the bill that supports the agreement. Can you tell us what that is?
    Posted by Newtster


    The silence is deafening....
     
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    Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    Wasn't this a vote to allow debate on the bill on the Senate floor?  Why would the Republitards bloc an open debate, something that could be aired on CSPAN?  Could it possibly be to allow more time for back room deals?  Didn't members of a certain political party get their panties in a wad because of back room deals in Washington?  And shouldn't the same people who were foaming at the mouth about "giveaways" and "political bribes" be outraged that Republitards are preventing the American Public from seeing what is being negotiated?

    I see some of the 'tards are complaining about the FDIC-like fund set up to bail out firms that will have to be paid by the firms that will be bailed out, instead of the American Tax Payer.

    As far as costing jobs, a lack of oversight has cost the country a lot more than estimated job loss provided by our esteemed Senator Brown (AKA Palin Lite).

     
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    Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    And shouldn't the same people who were foaming at the mouth about "giveaways" and "political bribes" be outraged that Republitards are preventing the American Public from seeing what is being negotiated?


    You're assuming that's what's happening. And if it is that's ok with me. The Dems did it with HCR. What's good for the goose...
     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    PS911fan, Dirtywaterlover is insulting some of us with offensive language aimed at our level of intelligence. Please provide him with some proof of leftwing intelligence by educating us on what every one agrees on about financial reform and what is in the bill that supports this agreement you refer to. Or are you just a rant machine that doesn't have a clue about the truth?
    Posted by Newtster


    I'm going to go with the latter
     
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    Harry Reid also voted no once it became apparent that the GOP was going to block bringing this item forward to the floor debate, therefore he will be able to reintroduce the bill later. 
     
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    What's pathetic is... with a Democratic majority in both houses the hapless Dems can's even bring a bill to the floor. I'll miss them in Nov. Fat boy is rolling in his grave.
     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    What's pathetic is... with a Democratic majority in both houses the hapless Dems can's even bring a bill to the floor. I'll miss them in Nov. Fat boy is rolling in his grave.
    Posted by ItsATravesty


    And if they had brought it to the floor you would be complaining that they "rammed through" or "forced it down your throat".  How nice it must be to have a prepared response in case of any contingency!  I beleive we sometimes call that damned if you, damned if you don't
     
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    "cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor"

    Yeah, bummer.

     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor : And if they had brought it to the floor you would be complaining that they "rammed through" or "forced it down your throat".  How nice it must be to have a prepared response in case of any contingency!  I beleive we sometimes call that damned if you, damned if you don't
    Posted by DamainAllen


    Hypothetical situation but thanks for telling me what I might have done anyway.
    If I become a Dem, will I be all knowing too?

    You MIGHT blame the party in CONTROL for this one... Nahhhhh.

    Sometimes it isn't the politics or even the issue.. it's the unmittigated arrogance that I resent. Ya know?? Maybe not.
     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor : Hypothetical situation but thanks for telling me what I might have done anyway. If I become a Dem, will I be all knowing too? You MIGHT blame the party in CONTROL for this one... Nahhhhh. Sometimes it isn't the politics or even the issue.. it's the unmittigated arrogance that I resent. Ya know?? Maybe not.
    Posted by ItsATravesty


    You don't need a supermajority to pass legislation in the Senate, by forcing democrats to always need 60 votes to get anything done, the GOP is obstructing. 

    The facts back this up, they are using the filibuster (and the threat of the filibuster) in outrageous and unprecedented numbers.  Hence when the Dems resorted to reconcilliation to pass HCR everyone cried the bill was rammed in one of their orifices, when the Dems bring a bill for financial reform out (which the events of the last 3 years clearly demonstrate is needed) the GOP still locked arms and an unison shook their heads no.  The GOP says they need more time to hash out the bill but not a single GOP senator mentioned needed more time during the floor speeches yesterday.  Gee, I wonder why.  Is it because they decided well in advance that they would say no just as the letter they put together not too long ago indicated they would do? 
     
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    WHere is the uniting Messiah who will reach across party lines and bring America together. Have to grade him an F on this course. That IS what he promised or was that just during the campaign? 
     
     
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    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor:
    In Response to Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor : I don't think what happened is a filibuster. The motion (or wahatever they call it) came up to bring the matter up for debate. They voted. They lost. A filibuster is when the minority prevents a vote by speaking continuously thus preventing a vote. A filibuster (also known as speaking or talking out a bill ) is a type of parliamentary procedure . Specifically, it is a form of obstruction in a legislature or other decision-making body whereby a lone member can elect to delay or entirely prevent a vote on a proposal.
    Posted by Newtster


    I didn't claim that they filibustered the vote, but when you are in the business of obstructing whether or not a technical filibuster is used or there is a predetermined and deliberative tactic to have the ENTIRE GOP DELEGATION vote no the result is the same, critical legislation is being obstructed by the minority party preventing the majority party from getting anything done unless incredible measures are taken. 
     
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    Re: GOP Obstruction - cant even bring Wall Street Reform to the floor, not a final vote, to the bloody floor

    Republicans are going to oppose anything that Obama proposes.   THey're mission isn't to help the country but instead to make Obama fail.

    The country is in trouble, the big banks are gambling with our future and reform and regulation is needed.  

    Republican just want to battle over power.

    When will they stop the politics and just start being rational?

    Open the debate.  Obama has shown over and over that he is willing to listen and work together.  The GOP has shown the opposite.
     
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