'Guns Don't Kill People, Americans Kill People'

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    'Guns Don't Kill People, Americans Kill People'

    Michael Moore On LAX Shooting: 'Guns Don't Kill People, Americans Kill People'

    Days after a gunman opened fire at Los Angeles International Airport,documentary filmmaker Michael Moore was spotted outside of a terminal and asked about the incident. In a video obtained by TMZ, Moore discussed the ongoing gun violence in the U.S. and why similar incidents are so prevalent here.

    "Nothing changes. It's the country we live in. Again, these are legally purchased guns, bullets ... what are you going to do?" Moore asked. "Well I think there's a reason why this doesn't happen in Canada, in Ireland, in France, and elsewhere. They have the occasional craziness but it's not on a weekly or a monthly basis. So why us? Cause they're not better than us. So why us? What is it about us? That's the question to ask."

    Moore famously addressed the issue of gun violence in the U.S. in 2002 with his Academy Award-winning film "Bowling for Columbine." The documentary focused on the 1999 shooting at Colorado's Columbine High School, looking for causes and explanations.

    "They have mentally ill people in those countries. In Canada hunting is a bigger sport than hockey. There's a lot of guns in Canada, but why don't they kill each other?" Moore continued. "I think the NRA, they've got it half right when they say 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' But I change it to guns don't kill people, Americans kill people, cause we're really the only ones that do it on this level and this scale."

     

    I've never agreed with anything Moore has ever said but he makes a great point. I've been asking the same thing. Why do more American's go on killing sprees? It's not because the guns are available. It's something deeper than that. Something is causing people to snap to the point where they think nothing of killing innocent people in mass quantities. Is it our culture? Is it the stress level of this country? I have no idea but it's more than just having guns available. 

     
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    I've never agreed with anything Moore has ever said but he makes a great point. I've been asking the same thing. Why do more American's go on killing sprees? It's not because the guns are available. It's something deeper than that. Something is causing people to snap to the point where they think nothing of killing innocent people in mass quantities. Is it our culture? Is it the stress level of this country? I have no idea but it's more than just having guns available. 



    Good questions.

    I tend to agree with some NRA types who argue there isn't enough mental health care in this country to catch these perps before their pathologies take hold.

    The problem is nobody wants to pay for it, including the NRA and other gun enthusiasts.  The asylums were mostly closed and the crazies were sent off to prisons where they grow crazier by the hour without adequate care.

    I also agree that it's "more than just having guns available"...but the wide availability of guns also undeniably contributes to the problem.

    This has always been a violent culture, which is less about movies and video games than it is about independence and a certain frontierism.  We've also fought several major wars in our relatively short history, which also doesn't help.  Many combat vets get traumatized and can't get along.

     

     
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    [QUOTE]Michael Moore On LAX Shooting: 'Guns Don't Kill People, Americans Kill People'

    Days after a gunman opened fire at Los Angeles International Airport,documentary filmmaker Michael Moore was spotted outside of a terminal and asked about the incident. In a video obtained by TMZ, Moore discussed the ongoing gun violence in the U.S. and why similar incidents are so prevalent here.

    "Nothing changes. It's the country we live in. Again, these are legally purchased guns, bullets ... what are you going to do?" Moore asked. "Well I think there's a reason why this doesn't happen in Canada, in Ireland, in France, and elsewhere. They have the occasional craziness but it's not on a weekly or a monthly basis. So why us? Cause they're not better than us. So why us? What is it about us? That's the question to ask."

    Moore famously addressed the issue of gun violence in the U.S. in 2002 with his Academy Award-winning film "Bowling for Columbine." The documentary focused on the 1999 shooting at Colorado's Columbine High School, looking for causes and explanations.

    "They have mentally ill people in those countries. In Canada hunting is a bigger sport than hockey. There's a lot of guns in Canada, but why don't they kill each other?" Moore continued. "I think the NRA, they've got it half right when they say 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' But I change it to guns don't kill people, Americans kill people, cause we're really the only ones that do it on this level and this scale."

     

    I've never agreed with anything Moore has ever said but he makes a great point. I've been asking the same thing. Why do more American's go on killing sprees? It's not because the guns are available. It's something deeper than that. Something is causing people to snap to the point where they think nothing of killing innocent people in mass quantities. Is it our culture? Is it the stress level of this country? I have no idea but it's more than just having guns available. 

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    Video games glorify snipers, urban combat, etc.  I used to play DOOM a lot, child's play compared to some of the games today.  But I never felt the urge to grab my dad's pistol and head to the mall.

    I don't get it either, maybe the media plays it up too much? 

    Stress is up...just read these boards, some of the posters are flippin' PO'd at the world.

     

     

     
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    I don't believe that Michael Moore blames gun violence in America on people and their behavior instead of inanimate objects. 

     

     
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    Well I certainly don't feel like killing anyone, but I can understand growing frustration. The feeling that one is working harder and harder for less and less, meanwhile the rich are getting richer than ever and if you dare speak up about it you are called a socialist or communist and dismissed - by someone in similar shoes, no less - meanwhile the powers that be are above accountability and now brazenly act just like it.

    I'm sure that less well off people working two minimum wage jobs while being told by people who work far less hours that they're just lazy takers because their employer is allowed to pay them sub-living wages don't feel any better. But yeah, of course saying that makes me a communist or something.

     
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    Of course a number of these shootings have been done by kids....work and making less is hardly the reason for these kids killing. Christ, my dad worked two jobs for 32 years...had guns, but never had the urge to go on a killing spree. If money issues were a cause there'd be a killing spree on a daily basis. 

     
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    Of course a number of these shootings have been done by kids....work and making less is hardly the reason for these kids killing. Christ, my dad worked two jobs for 32 years...had guns, but never had the urge to go on a killing spree. If money issues were a cause there'd be a killing spree on a daily basis. 

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    Well obviously there are different reasons for the kid school shootings and obviously I'm not talking about those.

    I'm not sure how the lack of a killing spree on a daily basis leads you to conclude that what I pointed out has nothing to do with it for anyone.

     
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    [QUOTE]Michael Moore On LAX Shooting: 'Guns Don't Kill People, Americans Kill People'

    Days after a gunman opened fire at Los Angeles International Airport,documentary filmmaker Michael Moore was spotted outside of a terminal and asked about the incident. In a video obtained by TMZ, Moore discussed the ongoing gun violence in the U.S. and why similar incidents are so prevalent here.

    "Nothing changes. It's the country we live in. Again, these are legally purchased guns, bullets ... what are you going to do?" Moore asked. "Well I think there's a reason why this doesn't happen in Canada, in Ireland, in France, and elsewhere. They have the occasional craziness but it's not on a weekly or a monthly basis. So why us? Cause they're not better than us. So why us? What is it about us? That's the question to ask."

    Moore famously addressed the issue of gun violence in the U.S. in 2002 with his Academy Award-winning film "Bowling for Columbine." The documentary focused on the 1999 shooting at Colorado's Columbine High School, looking for causes and explanations.

    "They have mentally ill people in those countries. In Canada hunting is a bigger sport than hockey. There's a lot of guns in Canada, but why don't they kill each other?" Moore continued. "I think the NRA, they've got it half right when they say 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' But I change it to guns don't kill people, Americans kill people, cause we're really the only ones that do it on this level and this scale."

     

    I've never agreed with anything Moore has ever said but he makes a great point. I've been asking the same thing. Why do more American's go on killing sprees? It's not because the guns are available. It's something deeper than that. Something is causing people to snap to the point where they think nothing of killing innocent people in mass quantities. Is it our culture? Is it the stress level of this country? I have no idea but it's more than just having guns available. 

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    Well, it might be the losing of hope so many people feel after five years of depression under Obama.

     
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    I don't believe that Michael Moore blames gun violence in America on people and their behavior instead of inanimate objects. 

     

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    Micheal Moore is fairly noted as a gun enthusiast and is also a hunter.

     
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    In response to macnh1's comment:
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    I don't believe that Michael Moore blames gun violence in America on people and their behavior instead of inanimate objects. 

     

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    Micheal Moore is fairly noted as a gun enthusiast and is also a hunter.

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    Don't you mean gun "nut"? Isn't that how people with guns are supposed to be referred to?

     
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