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Happy Birthday Mr. President

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    Happy Birthday Mr. President

    Today is President Abe Lincoln's birthday. Although his term as our nation's leader was brief, Lincoln managed to guide the United States through one of its most tumultous times in history.

    The problems and issues we face today somewhat pale in comparison to those faced by Lincoln.

    You have to wonder how Lincoln would fare in the modern day. A member of the Republican party..Lincoln was considered a moderate. When he was elected to office it was without any support from the South. It's likely that Lincoln would not have had a future in today's Republican party which has moved decidedly to the right over the years.

    It's rare to have such a great leader...one who is willing and able to lead change for the better in the face of overwhelming opposition.

    Perhaps one of Lincoln's most famous quote is  " You can fool some of the people some of th time..but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".



    My personal favorite is " Character is like a tree and Reputation its shadow. The shadow is what we think it is..and the tree is the real thing".

     

    Happy Birthday Mr. President.

     
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    Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

    Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

    But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

     
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    Heh, heh, heh... could anyone imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth Lincoln would have gotten from a wingnut party today if he had proposed 'amnesty' for the slaves?

     

     

    and you wonder why we think libruls are stupid.

     

     
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    "That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise."
    Abraham Lincoln   Imagine what David Axelrod could do with that quote, made by Abe the wealthy railroad lawyer..... No doubt they would also find out that Abe put his dog in a carrier on the roof of his horse and buggy during an 1847 vacation trip...

    The ultimate humble self made man , Old Abe   who often credited his successes to Almighty God,  wouldn't fit in too well with the class warfare, atheistic, collectivist, Government-worshipping smug liberals of today...

     
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    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh... could anyone imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth Lincoln would have gotten from a wingnut party today if he had proposed 'amnesty' for the slaves?

    He wouldn't have been a wingnut for very long.

     




    Gee, which party did LBJ thank for getting Civil Rights passed?  Which one did he NOT thank?

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    "That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise."
    Abraham Lincoln  Imagine what David Axelrod could do with that quote, made by Abe the wealthy railroad lawyer..... No doubt they would also find out that Abe put his dog in a carrier on the roof of his horse and buggy during an 1847 vacation trip...

    The ultimate humble self made man , Old Abe   who often credited his successes to Almighty God,  wouldn't fit in too well with the class warfare, atheistic, collectivist, Government-worshipping smug liberals of today...



    I don't think you know Lincoln particularly well and you certainly don't know liberals much either.  Lincoln was clearly a liberal: he used the government rather effectively to secure the freedom and liberty of millions of people who had been denied it by the forces of conservatism of that time.  

    You need to expand your thinking beyond your narrow ideological constraints.

     
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    "Lincoln was clearly a liberal: he used the government rather effectively to secure the freedom and liberty of millions of people who had been denied it by the forces of conservatism of that time. "

    You are an educator, and that is the best you can do? That is about 3rd grade level...   

    "Liberal" good, "conservative" bad.

    Pathetic.

     
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    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it's reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."


    Wow, he predicted crony capitalism as practiced by the statists in both the Democrat and Republican parties. How prescient.

    Apparently Lincoln was the original Tea Partyer! (y'know besides those Boston guys.)

     

     
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    Funny how the left likes to point to the conservative justices in Citizens United, but seem to be just fine with the liberals in Kelo v New London.  Big bad Pharma can blow up your house just because its in their way.

    And then pull up stakes and leave altogether, and a lovely hole in the ground.  Nice!

     
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    "Corporations are people, my friend"

     

    Still valid. So is "no taxation without representation" over which we fought a war of independence.

     

     
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    The idea that corporations pay too much in taxes and are too heavily regulated is incorrect?


    I know that this is going to be too hard for you to comprehend but the biggest corporations that engage in corrupt relationships with national politicians of both parties are perfectly happy with heavy regulation and taxes. They can afford it and it helps them keep out competition from smaller entities that can't. Stop listening to the populist rhetoric and pay attention to what actually happens and who actually benefits.

     
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    "So basically you're saying that the entire wingnut platform of favoring corporations no longer exists?"

    It never existed, except in the empty minds of class-warfare-spewing lefties like you.

    Wake up, moonbat: conservative George Will has endorsed progressive efforts to break up the big banks!

    The best friend that huge corporations like CitiBank, GE, Google, and crony capitalists ever had is now in the White House. Top down government control, picking winners and losers in the marketplace...
    Big business and big government, a match made in socialist heaven.

    Oil and natural gas producuers, a big business that actually is succeeding due to hard work and new innovations, not lobbyists, not included....shale oil and gas revolution will make US energy self sufficient, reduce carbon , and grow the economy...but they are designated by Obama as the "enemy", because they won't kowtow to the Almighty Government.

     
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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    "Corporations are people, my friend"

     

     

    Still valid. So is "no taxation without representation" over which we fought a war of independence.

     



    The left feigns anger over corporations getting people power, but stay mum when the liberals gave corporations GOVERNMENT power

     
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    Re: Happy Birthday Mr. President

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh... could anyone imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth Lincoln would have gotten from a wingnut party today if he had proposed 'amnesty' for the slaves?

    He wouldn't have been a wingnut for very long.

    Gee, which party did LBJ thank for getting Civil Rights passed?  Which one did he NOT thank?




    BOOM!!!

     
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    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    Lincoln would induce convulsions amongst today's wingnuts;

     

    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it's reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

    Abraham Lincoln




    Those "few hands" are the hands of politicians!!!

     
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    Re: Happy Birthday Mr. President

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    The idea that corporations pay too much in taxes and are too heavily regulated is incorrect?

    I know that this is going to be too hard for you to comprehend but the biggest corporations that engage in corrupt relationships with national politicians of both parties are perfectly happy with heavy regulation and taxes. They can afford it and it helps them keep out competition from smaller entities that can't. Stop listening to the populist rhetoric and pay attention to what actually happens and who actually benefits.




    HEAR HEAR!!

     
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    Re: Happy Birthday Mr. President

    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

     

    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

     

    Heh, heh, heh... could anyone imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth Lincoln would have gotten from a wingnut party today if he had proposed 'amnesty' for the slaves?

    He wouldn't have been a wingnut for very long.

     

     




    Gee, which party did LBJ thank for getting Civil Rights passed?  Which one did he NOT thank?

     

     




     

    And in which party did those Dixiecrats find a welcoming embrace after Civli Rights passed?




    Psst.  The civil rights filibusterer in chief died a democrat, and Everett Dirksen, who broke it, died a republican.  5 Dixiecrats.  Quite the movement.  Last I looked, it takes 60, and back then, 67

     
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