Harry Reid: "ObamaCare has been wonderful for America"

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    That Dirty Harry sure knows to work fairly.

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    Heh, heh, heh  suks being a MINORITY party, eh nitwit.

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    Heck no..  much easier to go on the offensive. The party in power is constantly on defense.

    I don't see it as minority. Like everyone in both (or all 3) partys.. I vote my wallet. WIIFM

    And all this time I thuoght we were all Americans...

    Did you really NEED to toss nitwit? Reckon so.

     
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    IF it has been so 'wonderful'  why delay implementation phases? Unless that is politically advantageous.

     
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    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid issued an ultimatum to Republicans on Monday to confirm at least seven presidential appointees or face a controversial rule change that could drain their power. 

    Reid made the demand during a speech Monday morning to the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress, ahead of a possible showdown vote on Tuesday. 

    At issue is the Senate's own rulebook, which to lawmakers is a very serious topic. Reid is threatening to flout the normal process in order to change the rules so that key presidential nominees can be confirmed with just 51 votes -- as opposed to 60. In short, the move would curb the minority party's ability to filibuster nominees. 

    Despite virulent protests by Republicans, Reid called the move "a minor change, no big deal." 

    Republicans don't see it that way, and remind Reid that he and other Democrats warned about doing such a thing when they were in the minority. 

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Reid's threatened action would "change the core of the Senate." He said it would fundamentally deny senators their right to question potential officials. 


    That Dirty Harry sure knows to work fairly.

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    Note to Mitch McConnell - the day you fillibustered your own motion was the day you lost the right to remind anybody about preserving the "core of the Senate".

     

     
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    Obamacare has been berry berry good to me. - Chico Escuela

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    Re: Harry Reid:

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    The law is so "massively unpopular" that its namesake was summarily re-elected.

     

    Would that the gopers had an alternative of their own to tout instead of puerile insults, race-baiting, immigrant-bashing, and/or buckets of new state restrictions on abortions.

    Since the gop has basically given up on the very notion of federal governance, they've retreated to their state houses to impose their own visions of "govt control".

     

    "When you're born, you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front-row seat."  - GC



    ObamaCare was in hibernation in the 2012 elections, Obama barely mentioned it, the election was about  free stuff, and also a mythical evil rich man who put his dog on the roof of his car and hid all his billions in wealth.

    ObamaCare is more unpopular than ever. Plenty of alternatives exist to a top down fedral takeover of 1/7 of the private economy.

    Proponents of ObamaCare claim it is but a minor tweak to our medical private sector, and also the most wonderful Rube Goldberg type massive government fix of all problems...cant be both.

    "The gop has given up on the notion of federal governance". No, the progressives are reaching their notion of DC based governace of everyone and everything.

     
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    Re: Harry Reid:

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    And yet Costco is the most successful company in it's sector while paying liveable wages and offering comprehensive healthcare.

    Anytime a business looks to blame someone else for their greed and/or ineptness, it's helpful to look to see if others succeed where these crybabies fail.

    Jack-in-the-Box has been offering ALL it's employees company sponsored health insurance for a decade.

    McDonald's has no intention of dropping insurance for the 30,000 full/part time workers at corporate owned stores.

    The only way for any of those ACA excuses are to be believed is if all companies in that sector fail. That is obviously not the case.

    Otherwise it's just an cop-out and not as detrimental as they want you to believe.



    Yeah, and they didn't need Obamacare to do it.

    You mention only large corporations. It is small business that generates most new jobs while large companies eliminate them with productivity improvements. 

    It is small business that is getting f'd by Obamacare.

     
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    And yet Costco is the most successful company in it's sector while paying liveable wages and offering comprehensive healthcare.

    Anytime a business looks to blame someone else for their greed and/or ineptness, it's helpful to look to see if others succeed where these crybabies fail.

    Jack-in-the-Box has been offering ALL it's employees company sponsored health insurance for a decade.

    McDonald's has no intention of dropping insurance for the 30,000 full/part time workers at corporate owned stores.

    The only way for any of those ACA excuses are to be believed is if all companies in that sector fail. That is obviously not the case.

    Otherwise it's just an cop-out and not as detrimental as they want you to believe.

     

     

    Costco is the liberal 's favorite business, because it is a crony capitalist business. Its success is built as much on special governmental privilege as it is on hard work and ingenuity. The company certainly knows how to market goods and services to budget-conscious customers and to maximize profits. Unfortunately, Costco also is adept at manipulating the political process on its own behalf, in a way that smacks of mercantilism (government-controlled markets) rather than capitalism.”Costco has been involved in similar situations across the country, involving local governments in the abuse of eminent domain on Costco’s behalf. It uses its muscle to arm-twist cities into taking others’ property and into filling its coffers with tax dollars.

    "Not as detrimental as you want to believe".  Mandating that a private entity pay all employee's health insurance would be badly detrimental to the private economy , of that there is no doubt. That is OK by you, because as a leftist you dont believe in a truly private sector, you believe in government control and coercion.

     
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    Great ideas get postponed illegally all the time.

     
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    Oh just shut up already.

    He explained, helpfully.

     

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    Re: Harry Reid:

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    The law is so "massively unpopular" that its namesake was summarily re-elected.

     

    Would that the gopers had an alternative of their own to tout instead of puerile insults, race-baiting, immigrant-bashing, and/or buckets of new state restrictions on abortions.

    Since the gop has basically given up on the very notion of federal governance, they've retreated to their state houses to impose their own visions of "govt control".

     

    "When you're born, you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front-row seat."  - GC

     



    ObamaCare was in hibernation in the 2012 elections, Obama barely mentioned it, the election was about  free stuff, and also a mythical evil rich man who put his dog on the roof of his car and hid all his billions in wealth.

    ObamaCare is more unpopular than ever. Plenty of alternatives exist to a top down fedral takeover of 1/7 of the private economy.

    Proponents of ObamaCare claim it is but a minor tweak to our medical private sector, and also the most wonderful Rube Goldberg type massive government fix of all problems...cant be both.

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    Then blame the gopers for not making their case to the people more effectively and/or coherently for viable alternatives.  Truth is, they got none.

    How can they pretend to care about the peoples' concerns when they willingly ignore or outright deride large swaths of the population?

    The Obamacare model already works quite well for many in other instances.  Tricare, for one.  The FEHBP, for another.  The "govt takeover" lie is getting pretty old, especially when the ACA provisions already implemented ARE popular, and the private medical sector is no worse for the wear.

     

     

     
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    Re: Harry Reid:

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    "Specifically, if a persons healthcare is not tied to his/her employment, that would free up thousands of entrepreneurs to go off and do what they do best... be entrepreneurs and create companies based on ideas not whether they can afford healthcare."

     

    Oh please. Entrepreneurs are creating companies everyday. Healthcare hasn't stopped people in the past from starting new businesses so please stop with the utter bullsh!t



    Of course it has - beyond that, entrepreneurs sell or close their businesses when they (or their spouses) get sick to join companies that offer group insurance, which cannot exclude coverage for employees with pre-existing conditions.  It's very common.  

     

     
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    Re: Harry Reid:

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    IF it has been so 'wonderful'  why delay implementation phases? Unless that is politically advantageous.




    Midterm elections.  Period.

    And since the implementation date is hard coded in the law, illegal to boot.

     
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    "Specifically, if a persons healthcare is not tied to his/her employment, that would free up thousands of entrepreneurs to go off and do what they do best... be entrepreneurs and create companies based on ideas not whether they can afford healthcare."

     

    Oh please. Entrepreneurs are creating companies everyday. Healthcare hasn't stopped people in the past from starting new businesses so please stop with the utter bullsh!t

     



    Of course it has - beyond that, entrepreneurs sell or close their businesses when they (or their spouses) get sick to join companies that offer group insurance, which cannot exclude coverage for employees with pre-existing conditions.  It's very common.  

     

     

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    Businesses close or get sold off for many reasons. But that isn't what the original point was. Health care is not going to stiffle entrepreneurs from creating new businesses. 

    "The percent of Americans starting businesses in 2010 and 2009 was the highest in 15 years, according to a report from the Kauffman Foundation released Monday.

    Last year, 340 of every 100,000 adults launched a business each month, creating 565,000 startups monthly, the report found. That was the same percentage as 2009, when 558,000 new businesses a month were created.

    The rate of business creation has been steadily rising since 2006, Kauffman found."

     

     

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