Has Anyone Seen the Democrat's Budget Proposal?

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    Has Anyone Seen the Democrat's Budget Proposal?

    Great editorial from Investor's Business Daily.

    Editorial: Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess

    Leadership: It's been over two years since the Democrat-led Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it squarely in violation of the law. So when will the arrests begin?

    We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a budget or take meaningful steps to head off our looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace.

    This hasn't happened since the budget rules were changed in 1974. Though required by law to pass a budget, Democrats have just said no. Yet the media have largely given them a pass on this willful lawlessness. Why?

    In the recent budget talks, Democrats have whined about Republicans not agreeing to raise taxes as part of a budget deal. But the Republicans have put up plans, serious plans, to cut spending, debt and deficits. What have the Democrats produced? Nothing.

    President Obama issued a do-nothing, status-quo plan in February that even members of his own party took as a joke. It was voted down last week 97-0 in the Senate.

    Next, the president asked for a "clean vote" — without any pesky spending cuts added — on raising the nation's debt limit by $2.4 trillion. He got one Tuesday, and lost by a convincing 318-97 margin in the House.

    Even so, Republicans on Wednesday trudged dutifully to the White House for talks on the budget and future spending. If they hoped for anything concrete from the president, they were disappointed. Other than vague promises that he'd be "generous" in any dealmaking, Obama again produced no specific proposals that could be scored by congressional budget makers.

    "We have a budget crisis," said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, speaking Wednesday on the House floor. "We've got a $1.5 trillion deficit. We've got a debt that is getting out of control. And what do you do when you have a problem like that? You pass a budget."

    Why have Democrats gone rogue and refused to address our fiscal mess or even propose a budget? Pure politics. Simply put, they don't want to face the voters after raising spending nearly a third in just two years.

    So they do nothing. Well, not nothing. They've called for massive, economy-killing tax hikes.

    Obama and congressional Democrats blame President Bush and the GOP for the budget mess — as if they'd done nothing to create it. Talk about chutzpah.

    Well, for the record, in Bush's last year in office, the deficit was just $258 billion; this year, the red ink will hit $1.7 trillion, a 559% jump.

    Spending in 2008 stood at $2.9 trillion; this year, it'll reach $3.8 trillion, up 31%. As for total federal debt, it's soared 44% from $9.9 trillion to $14.3 trillion.

    Absent a budget deal by the middle of July, Moody's says it may cut America's credit rating to reflect the likelihood of a default. But, as the GOP knows, it's hard to make a budget deal when only one side is dealing.

    Far worse, unless spending is cut sharply and future debt is curbed, millions will remain unemployed and the economy will continue to sputter — perhaps for decades to come. Is that what the scofflaw Democrats meant by "hope and change"?

     
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    Oddly enough no. Go figure
     
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    It must be in the same location as the Democratic plan to prevent Medicare from going bankrupt.
     
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    Or their ideas for fixing medicare?

    So who's the party of no now?
     
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    As a general rule, Cabinet secretaries don't often speak to reporters on camera at stakeouts, so imagine the glee when a group waiting outside Treasury Sec. Tim Geithner's hour-long, closed-door meeting with House GOP freshmen were told the administration's top money guy would be appearing before us to give remarks.

    That glee was, of course, soon extinguished as Geithner blasted out a back door, bolting from the proverbial lion's den. Not much love lost there and no "same pages" to be found.

    Four GOP freshmen emerged to hammer that sentiment home.

    "You can't compare plans if the president doesn't give us one," said Kristi Noem of South Dakota, a rising GOP star. She called it a "failure of leadership."


    Obama = Smoke and mirrors BS

     
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    It's top secret and guarded by a leprechaun at the end of the rainbow.
     
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    [QUOTE]Great editorial from Investor's Business Daily. Editorial: Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess   Posted 06/02/2011 07:03 PM ET Leadership: It's been over two years since the Democrat-led Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it squarely in violation of the law. So when will the arrests begin? We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a budget or take meaningful steps to head off our looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace. This hasn't happened since the budget rules were changed in 1974. Though required by law to pass a budget, Democrats have just said no. Yet the media have largely given them a pass on this willful lawlessness. Why? In the recent budget talks, Democrats have whined about Republicans not agreeing to raise taxes as part of a budget deal. But the Republicans have put up plans, serious plans, to cut spending, debt and deficits. What have the Democrats produced? Nothing. President Obama issued a do-nothing, status-quo plan in February that even members of his own party took as a joke. It was voted down last week 97-0 in the Senate. Next, the president asked for a "clean vote" — without any pesky spending cuts added — on raising the nation's debt limit by $2.4 trillion. He got one Tuesday, and lost by a convincing 318-97 margin in the House. Even so, Republicans on Wednesday trudged dutifully to the White House for talks on the budget and future spending. If they hoped for anything concrete from the president, they were disappointed. Other than vague promises that he'd be "generous" in any dealmaking, Obama again produced no specific proposals that could be scored by congressional budget makers. "We have a budget crisis," said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, speaking Wednesday on the House floor. "We've got a $1.5 trillion deficit. We've got a debt that is getting out of control. And what do you do when you have a problem like that? You pass a budget." Why have Democrats gone rogue and refused to address our fiscal mess or even propose a budget? Pure politics. Simply put, they don't want to face the voters after raising spending nearly a third in just two years. So they do nothing. Well, not nothing. They've called for massive, economy-killing tax hikes. Obama and congressional Democrats blame President Bush and the GOP for the budget mess — as if they'd done nothing to create it. Talk about chutzpah. Well, for the record, in Bush's last year in office, the deficit was just $258 billion; this year, the red ink will hit $1.7 trillion, a 559% jump. Spending in 2008 stood at $2.9 trillion; this year, it'll reach $3.8 trillion, up 31%. As for total federal debt, it's soared 44% from $9.9 trillion to $14.3 trillion. Absent a budget deal by the middle of July, Moody's says it may cut America's credit rating to reflect the likelihood of a default. But, as the GOP knows, it's hard to make a budget deal when only one side is dealing. Far worse, unless spending is cut sharply and future debt is curbed, millions will remain unemployed and the economy will continue to sputter — perhaps for decades to come. Is that what the scofflaw Democrats meant by "hope and change"?
    Posted by Hingmarsh[/QUOTE]

    TRANSLATION :

    Republicans are getting hammered and need other things for the public to talk about besides pushing grandma over the cliff and catering to the wealthy ruling class of the country. We are HOPE ing that this will CHANGE the subject so we can lie and cheat you out of what money you have .
     
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    Hope and change !!

    Brilliant !! That ANOTHER phrase most mooooooonbats are fearful to say anymore but you have da cojones !!
    One thing fo sho.. It won't be Obamas mantra when he tries to fool all the people all the time in 2012. It would be a bitter reminder what a flop he was.

    You use a boring strategy (or just don't get it) by ignoring any FACTS in the article and paint all AMERICAN republicans as grandma killers.

    Spin on dude..

     
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    Seems the Left avoided this thread like it was the plague...wonder why that is?
     
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    It's the reprobates who hold the majority and the responsibility of budget votes.



    Bwahahahaha...so that means the Dems can't offer a proposal? Funny, but when the Left held majorities in house and senate, it was still expected that the Right offer proposals to health care reform. Oops!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Has Anyone Seen the Democrat's Budget Proposal? : TRANSLATION : Republicans are getting hammered and need other things for the public to talk about besides pushing grandma over the cliff and catering to the wealthy ruling class of the country. We are HOPE ing that this will CHANGE the subject so we can lie and cheat you out of what money you have .
    Posted by beKool[/QUOTE]

    Obfuscation is what the kool one does, rant as they want about the Ryan budget there is no Dem budget except a wing and a prayer.

    Just once why don't you try to address an issue head on.

     
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    [QUOTE]I guess you wingnuts are dumber than a bag of rocks. It's the reprobates who hold the majority and the responsibility of budget votes. And to prove how utterly ignorant you morons are: Budget proposal from the DEMS: http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/04/debt_proposals http://grijalva.house.gov/uploads/The%20CPC%20FY2012%20Budget.pdf Presidents budget proposal from Feb '11: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-02-14/obama-s-2012-budget-saves-1-1-trillion-cuts-deficit-lew-says.html http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/ Can you whacko wingnuts get any more ignorant? It'd be hard to top, but you wingnuts are in a race to the bottom so there is no limit to your asininity.
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men[/QUOTE]

    Yes a majority since Jan 2011 when they were sworn in, so that still leaves a couple budget cycles where the Democrats with a majority in both houses offered up...

    As to the proposals, Obama's was voted down 97-0 in the Senate, House never bothered to take it up, see 97-0.  So am I to assume the Progressive Caucas now speaks for Senate Democrats, as well as their colleagues in the House?  Now let's try finding a serious propasal from the pas few years.  And before you sling the wingnut line, I'm not saying the repubs are in the right here, only agree with the OP that congress sat on this for quite a while and did nothing and the same players who did nothing are now crying foul.
     
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    In Response to Re: Has Anyone Seen the Democrat's Budget Proposal?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Has Anyone Seen the Democrat's Budget Proposal? : Just like Pavlov's dog, and wasting no time, the first wingnut idiot steps up and gets the stupidity ball rolling downhill. Yep those two budget proposal links were simply just too overwhelming for pinko. Incredible, it's a freakin miracle that they let you out of the stupidity asylum during the week. You never disappoint, troll.
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men[/QUOTE]

    Yes that was a great budget; thanks for the set up!

    President's budget sinks, 97-0

    By Alexander Bolton 05/25/11 06:15 PM ET

    The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol Hill in February.

    Ninety-seven senators voted against a motion to take it up.

    Democratic aides said ahead of the vote that the Democratic caucus would not support the plan because it has been supplanted by the deficit-reduction plan Obama outlined at a speech at George Washington University in April


     
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    I guess you wingnuts are dumber than a bag of rocks.

    It's the reprobates who hold the majority and the responsibility of budget votes.

    And to prove how utterly ignorant you morons are:

    Budget proposal from the DEMS:
    www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/04/debt_proposals">http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/04/debt_proposals
    http://grijalva.house.gov/uploads/The%20CPC%20FY2012%20Budget.pdf

    Presidents budget proposal from Feb '11:
    www.businessweek.com/news/2011-02-14/obama-s-2012-budget-saves-1-1-trillion-cuts-deficit-lew-says.html">http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-02-14/obama-s-2012-budget-saves-1-1-trillion-cuts-deficit-lew-says.html
    www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/">http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/

    Can you whacko wingnuts get any more ignorant?
    It'd be hard to top, but you wingnuts are in a race to the bottom so there is no limit to your asininity.




    Hahahah...what a surprise....12-AngryAssholes moving the goal posts. Can you ever have a straight forward debate? Psst....that was a rhetorical question as we all know the answer to it.
     
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    OBFUSCATION... the Dems best tool.
     
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    They're negotiating directly with Republicans...well, trying to...   so no sh*t they didn't type up a completely pointless proposal.



    Ah but when it came to health care reform many Libs on BDC kept asking for Repub proposals. Guess it wasn't pointless then eh?
     
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