Health Mandate Delayed for Employers

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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.

     
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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.



    Canada's overhead is not really 3%.  as I have pointed out numerous times, much of the infrastructure cost of Canadian health care is buried in provincial budgets.  Buildings, CAT scanners, etc.  all capitalized as part of the genrral budget.  Canadian health care costs as represented largely represents justthe cost of seeing a physician, etc.  BTW, your wait to see that pysician will be orders of magnitude longer than here in the States. Here's a link to get you started.  Read up.  Canada's health care is one of long lines, delisted services, reduced payments to doctors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

    But, all that aside, Obama is "surrendering" because if people are exposed to the real cost of Obamacare, then the Democrats lose big in the mid term elections. THAT'S whats going on here.

     
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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.

     



    Canada's overhead is not really 3%.  as I have pointed out numerous times, much of the infrastructure cost of Canadian health care is buried in provincial budgets.  Buildings, CAT scanners, etc.  all capitalized as part of the genrral budget.  Canadian health care costs as represented largely represents justthe cost of seeing a physician, etc.  BTW, your wait to see that pysician will be orders of magnitude longer than here in the States. Here's a link to get you started.  Read up.  Canada's health care is one of long lines, delisted services, reduced payments to doctors.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

    But, all that aside, Obama is "surrendering" because if people are exposed to the real cost of Obamacare, then the Democrats lose big in the mid term elections. THAT'S whats going on here.



    This decision will not help Congressional Democrats one bit.  Republicans will now take the president's "admission of complexities" and beat Congressional Democrats over the head with it in 2014.

     
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    Seems Obama playing politics is no biggie...

     
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    if its suppose to be good why not implement obamacare as early as possible...?????????????????????????????

     
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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.

     



    Canada's overhead is not really 3%.  as I have pointed out numerous times, much of the infrastructure cost of Canadian health care is buried in provincial budgets.  Buildings, CAT scanners, etc.  all capitalized as part of the genrral budget.  Canadian health care costs as represented largely represents justthe cost of seeing a physician, etc.  BTW, your wait to see that pysician will be orders of magnitude longer than here in the States. Here's a link to get you started.  Read up.  Canada's health care is one of long lines, delisted services, reduced payments to doctors.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

    But, all that aside, Obama is "surrendering" because if people are exposed to the real cost of Obamacare, then the Democrats lose big in the mid term elections. THAT'S whats going on here.

     



    This decision will not help Congressional Democrats one bit.  Republicans will now take the president's "admission of complexities" and beat Congressional Democrats over the head with it in 2014.

     

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    I disagree. This is purely political. If Obamacare is so good, then it would be rolling, and a big boon to Dems.

     
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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.

     

     



    Canada's overhead is not really 3%.  as I have pointed out numerous times, much of the infrastructure cost of Canadian health care is buried in provincial budgets.  Buildings, CAT scanners, etc.  all capitalized as part of the genrral budget.  Canadian health care costs as represented largely represents justthe cost of seeing a physician, etc.  BTW, your wait to see that pysician will be orders of magnitude longer than here in the States. Here's a link to get you started.  Read up.  Canada's health care is one of long lines, delisted services, reduced payments to doctors.

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

    But, all that aside, Obama is "surrendering" because if people are exposed to the real cost of Obamacare, then the Democrats lose big in the mid term elections. THAT'S whats going on here.

     

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    skeeter,

     

    Could the delay give Democrats political cover in the mid-terms? Absolutely.

    But that is not all that is going on here.

     

    And btw, please remember this post, if nothing else, when you think about accusing me of intellectual dishonesty again.

     

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    It is absolutely about political cover. The only other argument is that it is an abortion of a law.

    i only accuse you of intellectual dishonesty because you accused me first. In this case, I think you are not being intellectually dishonest.

     
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    Obama's second surrender on heathcare. 

    The first surrender was on the public option, thereby leaving private insurance and its 30 per cent overhead safely in place. (incidentally, Canada has 3%).

    This was a critical error in judgement by the Administation.  Fast forward another year, and the same employers will still be dragging their feet and saying they need more time to understand and implement the requirements. They've had nearly 4 years.

     

     

     

     



    Canada's overhead is not really 3%.  as I have pointed out numerous times, much of the infrastructure cost of Canadian health care is buried in provincial budgets.  Buildings, CAT scanners, etc.  all capitalized as part of the genrral budget.  Canadian health care costs as represented largely represents justthe cost of seeing a physician, etc.  BTW, your wait to see that pysician will be orders of magnitude longer than here in the States. Here's a link to get you started.  Read up.  Canada's health care is one of long lines, delisted services, reduced payments to doctors.

     

     

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

    But, all that aside, Obama is "surrendering" because if people are exposed to the real cost of Obamacare, then the Democrats lose big in the mid term elections. THAT'S whats going on here.

     

     

     

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    skeeter,

     

     

     

    Could the delay give Democrats political cover in the mid-terms? Absolutely.

    But that is not all that is going on here.

     

    And btw, please remember this post, if nothing else, when you think about accusing me of intellectual dishonesty again.

     

     

     

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    It is absolutely about political cover. The only other argument is that it is an abortion of a law.

     

     

    i only accuse you of intellectual dishonesty because you accused me first. In this case, I think you are not being intellectually dishonest.

     

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    skeeter,

     

    Thank you. So we are okay on the intellectual dishonesty thing. 

    As for "an abortion of a law". Maybe you could use a different word/phrase next time please? Never heard that phrase before. There has got to be a better/different way to make your point. Hard to jump from that phrase into a discussion.

    I know you get it. Too smart not to. 

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    Don't like my archaic phrase of the day?  Ok.  How about train wreck? Problem is that is so overused.

     
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    A sub point to this whole thing is how Obama unilaterally declares what he will enforce, and what he won't.  HHeck is making up law, I.e. mandatory birth control coverage, refusing to enforce law, like this.  Who's to swith the the immigration law that he doesn't just delay what he doesn't like and immediately implement what he does like?

    the executive branch has gotten a bit big for it's britches.

     
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    Hey, give this a read. Pretty compelling.

     

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/02/ten-questions-about-the-obamacare-employer-mandate-delay/

     
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    Says more about the companies' inability to coordinate / manage their health care decisions than about the law itself.

     
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    Says more about the companies' inability to coordinate / manage their health care decisions than about the law itself.



    BIG BuSINESS GETTING OVER ON THE WORKING STIFF ONCE AGAIN!!,

    That's what you would say if this were Bush.

    But, it's Obama, so you buy the dribble that businesses that can get a pair of pants or a car part or lobsters anywhere in the country overnight somehow can't figure out Obamacare.

    You will believe anything Obama says, won't you?

     
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