Hillary suggests Obama could do more to woo Republican's

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    Hillary suggests Obama could do more to woo Republican's

    Hillary Clinton has begun distancing herself from President Barack Obama, suggesting that she would do more to woo Republicans and take a more assertive stance toward global crises, while sounding more downbeat than her former boss about the U.S. economic recovery.


     


    People are "really, really nervous" about their future, Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Colorado last week that included hints of her emerging strategy to convey that she would be more effective in the pursuit of Democratic policy goals than Mr. Obama has been during his time in office.


     


    "They don't think the economy has recovered in a way that has helped them or their families," Mrs. Clinton said. In contrast, Mr. Obama sounded almost cheery after Thursday's jobs report, saying the country could make even more progress if Congress were willing to "set politics aside, at least occasionally."


     


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    and avoid a lawsuit

     
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    Hillary Clinton is very smart, extremely capable, and loaded with common sense and political acumen. She has some strengths that Obama doesn't have, and seems to be able to get down and dirty if she has to. The question is not can she do the job, but rather will Republicans allow her to do it any more than they allowed President Obama?

    Obama has been stonewalled in unprecedented fashion by Republicans ignoring the business of the country and acting in lockstep to undermine his presidency. Their intention from day 1 has been to make Washington so unpleasant and unpopular that voters, not caring who or what caused the problems, would vote for any kind of change.

     
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    One thing I can't tolerate....excuses...

     
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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.

    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.

     
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    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:

    Well, it's increasingly obvious she's going to run.

    Not sure what her chances are. It'd be the same party in for a third (and possibly fourth) term, which is rare. Plus, Obama has disappointed quite a few of the people who voted for him, and that sort of thing can have effects across the party.



    If Gore couldn't win after the utopia that Clinton created then it doesn't look good for Hillary. Especially to your point how rare it is for the same party to win after two terms of said party being in the WH. But, ya never know. 

     
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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.

    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.



    In the last election more people voted Dem than gop-er so why doesn't the wingnut party respect that?


    Even in the HoR elections the Dems won the popular vote ... it's only by virtue of gerrymandering that the wingnuts are able to hold seats.... not exactly a mandate on their popularity.

     
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    Seems like she's looking to split the Democratic Party between the stridently dogmatic (team  Obama) and the "sometimes you have to talk to the enemy" types (team Hillary.)

    Interesting strategy.

     

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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.

    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.




    House Democrats won a majority of the popular votes in 2012 .

     
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    Seems like she's looking to split the Democratic Party between the stridently dogmatic (team  Obama) and the "sometimes you have to talk to the enemy" types (team Hillary.)

    Interesting strategy.



    Or she could just be trolling wingnuts....

     
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    If things keep going as they have been, I also tend to suspect it'll be an R who wins in 2016.



    Not for a while.  America is done granting Presidential power to the Party of Stupid.

    It may do that in the Senate and in the House, but the Presidency is an entirely different matter.

    Republican Senators and Congressmen only have to fool low-information voters on a local and regional level in order to get elected, but a Republican Presidential candidate has to fool voters on a national level into voting against its own interests.

     

     
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    If things keep going as they have been, I also tend to suspect it'll be an R who wins in 2016.



    Not for a while.  America is done granting Presidential power to the Party of Stupid.

    It may do that in the Senate and in the House, but the Presidency is an entirely different matter.

    Republican Senators and Congressmen only have to fool low-information voters on a local and regional level in order to get elected, but a Republican Presidential candidate has to fool voters on a national level into voting against its own interests.

     




    You can fool some of the people all of the time ...

     
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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.


    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.


     


    In the last election more people voted Dem than gop-er so why doesn't the wingnut party respect that?


     


    Even in the HoR elections the Dems won the popular vote ... it's only by virtue of gerrymandering that the wingnuts are able to hold seats.... not exactly a mandate on their popularity.




    We dont have a European parlimentary system, so the raw number of votes for House seats is meaningless.


    Ever hear of STATES?  And state Governments and state elections?


     In 2010, the GOP netted some 700 state seats, increasing its share of state House and Senate seats by almost 10 percent, from approximately 3200 to over 3900. It took over both legislative chambers in 25 states and won total control of 21 states (legislature and governorship) — the greatest such victory since 1928. In 17 of these states, GOP legislatures controlled the congressional redistricting for 173 seats.


    The GOP House reflects the grassroots popularity of Republicans in state and local offices...the Dems used their control of state Government in the 20th century to 'gerrymander' control of the House for 40 years! 


    Win state and local elections, then you Dems can redistrict !

     
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    In response to UserName9's comment:

    Hillary Clinton is very smart, extremely capable, and loaded with common sense and political acumen. She has some strengths that Obama doesn't have, and seems to be able to get down and dirty if she has to. The question is not can she do the job, but rather will Republicans allow her to do it any more than they allowed President Obama?

    Obama has been stonewalled in unprecedented fashion by Republicans ignoring the business of the country and acting in lockstep to undermine his presidency. Their intention from day 1 has been to make Washington so unpleasant and unpopular that voters, not caring who or what caused the problems, would vote for any kind of change.



    Agan, Obama hasn't been stonewalled, he's been the most partisan president in modern times.

    The republicans control one-half of one-thirds of the federal government. They are incapable of stonewallng anything.

    proof: did the republicans win any of the budget battles over the last six years? No. They got shellacked. 

     
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    In response to UserName9's comment:

    Hillary Clinton is very smart, extremely capable, and loaded with common sense and political acumen. She has some strengths that Obama doesn't have, and seems to be able to get down and dirty if she has to. The question is not can she do the job, but rather will Republicans allow her to do it any more than they allowed President Obama?

    Obama has been stonewalled in unprecedented fashion by Republicans ignoring the business of the country and acting in lockstep to undermine his presidency. Their intention from day 1 has been to make Washington so unpleasant and unpopular that voters, not caring who or what caused the problems, would vote for any kind of change.



    Agan, Obama hasn't been stonewalled, he's been the most partisan president in modern times.

    The republicans control one-half of one-thirds of the federal government. They are incapable of stonewallng anything.

    proof: did the republicans win any of the budget battles over the last six years? No. They got shellacked. 



    That's an absurd argument.

    Their shellacking only proves the futility of their stonewalling on the issues.

    Just because you don't win the battles you start doesn't absolve you of starting the fight in the first place.

    Closing gov't because you don't get everything you want is both childish and stupid ... basically the wingnuts method of obstruction.

     
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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.

     

    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.

     

     

     

    In the last election more people voted Dem than gop-er so why doesn't the wingnut party respect that?

     

     

     

    Even in the HoR elections the Dems won the popular vote ... it's only by virtue of gerrymandering that the wingnuts are able to hold seats.... not exactly a mandate on their popularity.

     

     



    We dont have a European parlimentary system, so the raw number of votes for House seats is meaningless.

     

     

    Ever hear of STATES?  And state Governments and state elections?

     

     In 2010, the GOP netted some 700 state seats, increasing its share of state House and Senate seats by almost 10 percent, from approximately 3200 to over 3900. It took over both legislative chambers in 25 states and won total control of 21 states (legislature and governorship) — the greatest such victory since 1928. In 17 of these states, GOP legislatures controlled the congressional redistricting for 173 seats.

     

    The GOP House reflects the grassroots popularity of Republicans in state and local offices...the Dems used their control of state Government in the 20th century to 'gerrymander' control of the House for 40 years! 

     

    Win state and local elections, then you Dems can redistrict !




    The gift that keeps on giving to the GOP, low information voters .

     
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    Seems like she's looking to split the Democratic Party between the stridently dogmatic (team  Obama) and the "sometimes you have to talk to the enemy" types (team Hillary.)

    Interesting strategy.

     

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    Or, she could be trying to sell herself as someone who can work with Republicans.  But if the republican leadership doesn't want to work with the democrat in the White House, it won't matter what she does.  She can't do more than ask republicans to support republican ideas like Obama did.  HCR, cap and trade, immigration reform were all republican ideas.

     
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    Ptttthhhhhpppt. Hillary wants to "work with" Republicans about as much as you do, which is to say not at all. She's engaging in political posturing betting that Obama has alienated so many people that mildly criticizing him is a good bet.

     

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    Ptttthhhhhpppt. Hillary wants to "work with" Republicans about as much as you do, which is to say not at all. She's engaging in political posturing betting that Obama has alienated so many people that mildly criticizing him is a good bet.

     

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    Ding, ding, ding....give that man a prize!!!

     
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    Obama stonewalled? Poor baby! By whom? By the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Republicans slaughtered Democrats in 2010 to take over the Congress because the American people WANTED IT THAT WAY.

    His negotiating style is suspect: my way or the highway. To which the response has been a resounding FU pal.


    In the last election more people voted Dem than gop-er so why doesn't the wingnut party respect that?

     

    Even in the HoR elections the Dems won the popular vote ... it's only by virtue of gerrymandering that the wingnuts are able to hold seats.... not exactly a mandate on their popularity.



    That is complete horsehiite. The Republicans have the majority in the House. That is what counts, not your made up election to justify an inept president's behavior.

    Elections matter. Republicans won. The way things are going it is going to move more in that direction. I hope you can deal with it should it happen.

     
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    Win state and local elections, then you Dems can redistrict !

    That's hilarious. Democrats gerrymandered districts for YEARS and only now see fit to complain about the practice now that the GOP has used the tactic against them.

    Sorry boys, suck it up and win some elections.

     

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    Ptttthhhhhpppt. Hillary wants to "work with" Republicans about as much as you do, which is to say not at all. She's engaging in political posturing betting that Obama has alienated so many people that mildly criticizing him is a good bet.

     

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    Work with republicans on what?  Republicans can't even work with themselves to come up with an idea that may help the country. Name a single piece of legislation that the GOP House has put forth in the past 2 years that doesn't include overturning the ACA.  Half of them openly admit they are there to obstruct the federal government from doing anything.

    In the past 25 years, the GOP has been wrong on trickle-down economics, healthcare reform, regulations in general, gun control, marriage equality, voting rights, foreign policy, campaign financing, the minimum wage, and a host of other public policies.   And their views are only becoming more and more extreme and out of touch with the average voter. 

     
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    Ptttthhhhhpppt. Hillary wants to "work with" Republicans about as much as you do, which is to say not at all. She's engaging in political posturing betting that Obama has alienated so many people that mildly criticizing him is a good bet.


     


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    Think for yourself, question authority.




    Work with republicans on what?  Republicans can't even work with themselves to come up with an idea that may help the country. Name a single piece of legislation that the GOP House has put forth in the past 2 years that doesn't include overturning the ACA.  Half of them openly admit they are there to obstruct the federal government from doing anything.


    In the past 25 years, the GOP has been wrong on trickle-down economics, healthcare reform, regulations in general, gun control, marriage equality, voting rights, foreign policy, campaign financing, the minimum wage, and a host of other public policies.   And their views are only becoming more and more extreme and out of touch with the average voter. 



    Thank God the Republicans are sometimes able to stop the horrifically failed statist schemes of the Party of Government... 
    One need only look to jurisdictions where the Democrats are able to fully implement their endless Government spending, economy destroying, race pandering  and dependency inducing programs..


    "Fourth of July weekend toll: 82 shot, 14 of them fatally, in Chicago" [glad gun control works so well!]


    "Detroit Water Park Opens with No Water"


     

     
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    Why are wingnuts so worried about Hilary?

     
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    Re: Hillary suggests Obama could do more to woo Republican's

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    Why are wingnuts so worried about Hilary?



    Go spend four years living with your mother-in-law and get back to us.

     
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