Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar!

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    Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in 1933!

    On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested.  Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished.  This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police.

    Fast forward to America today, particularly Wisconsin.  Governor Walker and the Republican/Tea Party members of the state legislature are attempting to pass a bill that would not only severely punish public unions (with exception for the police, fire, and state trooper unions that supported his campaign), but it would effectively end 50 years to the right of these workers to collectively bargain.

    Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiations between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs. -wiki


    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/20/may-1933-hitler-abolishes-unions/


     
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    Actually, we can make a much more accurate comparison to someone from that era:

    FDR's Ghost Is Smiling on Wisconsin's Governor


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/19/the_ghost_of_fdr_is_smiling_on_wisconsins_governor_108962.html

    "The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."

    By the way, the incivility of your comparison of the popularly elected governor of Wisconsin to Nazis has been duly noted.

     
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    Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in 1933! On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested.  Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished.  This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police. Fast forward to America today, particularly Wisconsin.  Governor Walker and the Republican/Tea Party members of the state legislature are attempting to pass a bill that would not only severely punish public unions (with exception for the police, fire, and state trooper unions that supported his campaign), but it would effectively end 50 years to the right of these workers to collectively bargain. Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiations between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs. -wiki http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/20/may-1933-hitler-abolishes-unions/
    Posted by bacalove


    Insinuating that the governor is on par with those that sought to exterminate my people is incredibly idiotic and disgusting.


     
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    Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar!

    No one said Hitler was stupid.
     
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    No one said Hitler was stupid.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    Actually he was quite stupid.  Het let his unhinged ideology cloud his thought process and commit all kinds of errors and, of course, dreadful crimes as a result.  He was stupid and evil both.  Zealots often are.

    Keeping away from Hitler analogies is a good thing.
     
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    Keeping away from Hitler analogies is a good thing. ------------------------ tell baca
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Everyone, Left/Right/Independent, should stay away from Hitler analogies.  It is just insult posing as discussion.

    How's that?
     
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    In Response to Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar! : Everyone, Left/Right/Independent, should stay away from Hitler analogies.  It is just insult posing as discussion. How's that?
    Posted by Reubenhop


    Past tactics of past leaders are looked at all the time including Hitlers and discussed. Rommmel was and still is looked at as one of the best tactical thinkers of past times . Are the military leaders who have used his tactics or taught his tactics wrong because he reminds people of Nazi Germany ? Hitler was a leader of a country there is nothing wrong with looking at how he got to where he got to . And there is no reason when tactics he used are being used by leaders in this country or any other one for that matter should be hid by not being exposed and  pointed out. What would be insulting is hiding from them as if they never happened.
     
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    In Response to Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar! : Insinuating that the governor is on par with those that sought to exterminate my people is incredibly idiotic and disgusting.
    Posted by WhatIsItNow


    Whats disgusting in you want to deny historical events leading up to a dictators extermination of your people. I see nothing wrong with using historical events in political talk to get a point across. What are we to do just forget how things come about in this world and just talk about the feel good things ?

    If you are Jewish you above all on here shouldnt want to whitewash how that monster came to power to do what he did to your people
    . Like it or not he did do as claimed and you know it so dont hide from the obvious to protect any politician if you agree with them or not. 



     
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    In Response to Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar!:
    Actually, we can make a much more accurate comparison to someone from that era: FDR's Ghost Is Smiling on Wisconsin's Governor http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/19/the_ghost_of_fdr_is_smiling_on_wisconsins_governor_108962.html "The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government." By the way, the incivility of your comparison of the popularly elected governor of Wisconsin to Nazis has been duly noted.
    Posted by StalkingButler


    And your obvious lack of understanding about this quote is also.

     
    National Federation of Federal Employees.<<<< Look a clue

    Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service
    August 16, 1937

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445

    And here i was under the impression you wingers didnt like the federal government getting involved in state issues. Oh thats right its ok as long as its to your advantage or if a buck is involved.

    Now you have a accurate comparison .


     
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    I guess it is ok to reference Hitler, if you are a progressive union member. 

    What happened to the hate speech discussion a few weeks ago?  We found the REAL haters, and the vast majority of them are progressive, leftie union members and supporters.
     
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    In Response to Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar! : And your obvious lack of understanding about this quote is also.   National Federation of Federal Employees .<<<< Look a clue Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service August 16, 1937 http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445 And here i was under the impression you wingers didnt like the federal government getting involved in state issues. Oh thats right its ok as long as its to your advantage or if a buck is involved. Now you have a accurate comparison .
    Posted by beKool


    You're kidding right? You couldn't possibly be that stupid and you're just grasping for anything, right? For your sake I certainly hope so.

    For anyone else who might possibly be confused on this issue (and whose mind hasn't been turned to mush) you might note that Roosevelt, while directing his comments to federal service workers, was clearly speaking generally about all public service workers.


     
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    In Response to Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar! : Whats disgusting in you want to deny historical events leading up to a dictators extermination of your people. I see nothing wrong with using historical events in political talk to get a point across. What are we to do just forget how things come about in this world and just talk about the feel good things ? If you are Jewish you above all on here shouldnt want to whitewash how that monster came to power to do what he did to your people . Like it or not he did do as claimed and you know it so dont hide from the obvious to protect any politician if you agree with them or not. 
    Posted by beKool


    Oh shut it, you blithering and worthless ass-hat. 

    I'm not denying any historical facts. Abolishing unions had nothing to do with exterminating my people, except for the very most tangential and vague connection: That abolishing unions was one miniscule move in the pursuit of absolute power, which absolute power was required for Hitler to carry out the holocaust.

    The fact that someone opposes public unions does not provide any basis for thinking they want to exterminate my people or anyone else. Comparing one act to the other takes either (1) an imbecile, as defined in old psych texts, or (2) an immoral imbecile.

    I am completely sick and tired of digusting twits like you, who think that they give their argument +1 Strength if they invoke nazism. 

    It destroys your argument.  It makes you look like a blowhard with no substance.  Read up on Greg's reference, by the way.  Wikipedia even has an entry, I see.

    In all honesty: Go away.

    You're making Democrats look bad by ranting here. RevWright didn't need an equally frothy counterweight from the left.
     
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    What is an ass-hat? What is an ass-hat worth? If one is a worthless ass-hat what does that mean? Is ass-hat worth as much as a house, a car, a candy bar. I need some clarification so I know how worthless someone is when said person is called a worthless ass-hat, because right now I just don't know. A little help from any of you the right. I ask because you fellas on the right are the experts in ass-hatness and I like to go the source as it may. So anyone care to tell me what the worth is of an as-hat.
     
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    Beyond the apex of a natural bell curve
     
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    In Response to Re: Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in May of 1933! Sound Familar! : Oh shut it, you blithering and worthless ass-hat.  I'm not denying any historical facts. Abolishing unions had nothing to do with exterminating my people, except for the very most tangential and vague connection: That abolishing unions was one miniscule move in the pursuit of absolute power, which absolute power was required for Hitler to carry out the holocaust. The fact that someone opposes public unions does not provide any basis for thinking they want to exterminate my people or anyone else. Comparing one act to the other takes either (1) an imbecile, as defined in old psych texts, or (2) an immoral imbecile. I am completely sick and tired of digusting twits like you, who think that they give their argument +1 Strength if they invoke nazism.  It destroys your argument.  It makes you look like a blowhard with no substance.  Read up on Greg's reference, by the way.  Wikipedia even has an entry, I see. In all honesty: Go away. You're making Democrats look bad by ranting here. RevWright didn't need an equally frothy counterweight from the left.
    Posted by WhatIsItNow


    See there you are again denying history no one thing lead to what Hitler did. And again there is nothing wrong with pointing out how that came to be. It didnt happen over night just like the steady assault on unions didnt happen overnight . Tactics are tactics and there is nothing wrong with pointing out who used them and when to archive their final goal.  Any comparison is on history not on those that point them out from history.

    You are the one talking extermination of people not i.
    I am talking about events that lead to bad conclusions no matter what they are. And if they take away the only buffer we have to corporations and run away government power we have a bigger problem than you care to admit.

    Who are they going to go after after they silence everyone but the very ones who helped them do it. There will be no one to speak then . So you can play the my poor people bit but you are the only one playing it here. If you want to restrict talk about events in history to the end results then you are no better than the ones trying to silence the tax paying unions .


     
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    What is an ass-hat? What is an ass-hat worth? If one is a worthless ass-hat what does that mean? Is ass-hat worth as much as a house, a car, a candy bar. I need some clarification so I know how worthless someone is when said person is called a worthless ass-hat, because right now I just don't know. A little help from any of you the right. I ask because you fellas on the right are the experts in ass-hatness and I like to go the source as it may. So anyone care to tell me what the worth is of an as-hat.
    Posted by lawboy


    One ass-hat is worth two useful idiots and seven flee-bagging Wisconsin democrats.


    Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. (What loser president said that?)
     
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    OK StalkingButler thanks LOL.....tongue-in-cheek 
     
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    What is an ass-hat?
    Posted by lawboy


    I tried to explain it to you but it hurt your feelings and you reported the post.
     
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    Posted by StalkingButler


    TRANSLATION:

    We use these words when we lose the argument
     
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    Hitler ABOLISHED Unions in 1933! On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested.  Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished.  This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police. Fast forward to America today, particularly Wisconsin.  Governor Walker and the Republican/Tea Party members of the state legislature are attempting to pass a bill that would not only severely punish public unions (with exception for the police, fire, and state trooper unions that supported his campaign), but it would effectively end 50 years to the right of these workers to collectively bargain. Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiations between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs. -wiki http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/20/may-1933-hitler-abolishes-unions/
    Posted by bacalove


    Hitler was also a vegetarian, and adamant about people not smoking.  Therefore, vegetarians and non-smokers are Nazis.

    Is that how your logic works?
     
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