I'm just curious, because his "budget" calls a roughly two-thirds cut in 'non-discretionary spending'...

...which very much includes FEMA's operating budget and which is very often held up as an ideological cudgel by congressional gopers during budget debates.

So, how much is emergency and disaster response worth to the Big Mitt...?

And speaking of responses to natural disasters and climate threats:

"There has been a series of extreme weather incidents. That is not a political statement, that is a factual statement. Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality," - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Isn't it strange how Climate Science was able to predict with amazing accuracy the path, size and scope of Hurricane Sandy...??  This is the same Climate Science poo-poo'ed by every tee partee fraud and right-wing environment-haters love to think they know anything about...

...the same Climate Science that has been talking about "dramatic changes in weather patterns" for decades now.

 

 

They've got a goalpost answer for that: To simply announce that man isn't causing the climate to change.

The cause is the sphagetti monster to some, renegade scientists in fleets of black helicopters to others. For tvoter, who should never forget that everybody's special, it's an "aging solar system."

 

 

 

And these people vote.

Our children will be paying the bill for their luddite-ism thirty, fifty years hence.

Aging solar system....I love it!

 

Today’s conservatives have a nearly pathological hatred of anything that suggests government  (especially the federal government) might be able to help average Americans. So, they work to cut the budgets and preparedness of disaster relief agencies not only so they can free up more money for tax cuts for the wealthy, but also because they realize that inadequate government responses to disasters make it easier for them to prove that government doesn't work.

 

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I love it, the dip-stix are already projecting how they are going to hate President Romney!

Priceless!

Listen up boys, the mere fact that Romney wins, is going to give this country a jump-start, get used to it.

The market will surge, your 401k will pop, companies will start to advertise new jobs, Christmas retail sales will go through the roof!

And that's just the emotional bump, wait until he starts encating some of his policies, the American public will back him 100%.

Except of course troll like yourselves, Michael Moore, Jay-Zee, Bruce Springsteen, Letterman, etc.

In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

Actually, this thread was about his proposed cuts to FEMA.

Try not to project so much.

Romney just came out with a statement that he was for Hurricanes before he was against Hurricanes.

Of course FEMA will be a mess under a Romney campaign.  Romney's advisors are all former Bushies.  Why should anyone expect Romney to Govern any different than the way Bush governed.  War with Iran and incompetence at home.  We alread know that he's going to increase the deficit the way Bush did, cut taxes for the wealthy the way Bush did, cut services the way Bush did.

In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

OK, try to follow, he can't cut FEMA unless he is who?  The President?  Not must projecting required, he can't cut FEMA as a "candidate" can he?

Boy you are dumb!

In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

HaHaHaHa, read what you wrote dumbo, "Romney Campaign"????????  You mean of course a Romney Administration, right?

Guess you just shot WDYWN's point all to heck!  You guys are really stupid today, hurricane-hangover?

In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

Correct.

However, professor Einstein, I believe you have made an error: This is a politics forum, and a national election is happening in 7 days (thank the founders!).

Therefore, the views of a lowly "candidate" on FEMA are directly relevant to the forum. After all, you're so certain he's going to win.

 

 

 

What? Did you think this was the "celebrity news" forum?

 

In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

That's your response?

But it's really funny that you have to explain your "really-dim" point, thanks for playing today.

In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

Yes. Are you done yet?

In response to MattyScornD's comment:

I think FEMA should be restructured and reserved for the truly muti-state events; yes we just had one.  But in general I fully support a reallocation of resources; the people's money back to the state level for the peolel to administer.

Smaller is better.

In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

Well, he would have to be president in order for us to see how much he would cut it, do we not?

I find it really funny how the left is grasping at straws.  Tells us a lot about how they view Obama's re-election prospects.

"There has been a series of extreme weather incidents. That is not a political statement, that is a factual statement. Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality," - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo."

"Isn't it strange how Climate Science was able to predict with amazing accuracy the path, size and scope of Hurricane Sandy...?? This is the same Climate Science poo-poo'ed by every tee partee fraud and right-wing environment-haters love to think they know anything about..."

Two scientifically dubious statements.

Sorry, Gov Cuomo, there is little evidence that extreme weather events are more common recently. Of course, with modern media and population growth, they are more noticable. As to hurricanes, an inconvenient truth:  they became scarce along the US for years after Al Gore predicted imminent disaster in his nonscientific horror movie...

"Climate science" whiffed on Sandy's timing and its composition. Sandy sped up much faster than predicted. Also, it did not "merge" into a superstorm with a nor'easter, it just slammed into the coast as a hurricane.

Quite a difference between charting a storm's path and claiming all weather events can be explained as caused by man.

 

In response to BetheKoolaid's comment:

 

Christ. A conspiracy theory for everything. I was watching the weather maps because I was curious. It hit the coast as a hurricane.

 

But....      you wont' believe this......     it kept going.

 

It did, in fact, merge with a nor'easter that slid down from the great leaks. I watched it happen. That nor'easter is now caught up in the storm's continuing rotation. You can still see the parts of it that merged because they're the parts still SNOWING.

 

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/02140

 

 

 

 

For the record: I think anyone who suggests that this particular storm was caused by climate change is wrong. Even climate scientists will tell you: It's the probability of severe weather that they predict is increased.

An increase in probability is mathematically and logically impossible to link to any specific occurrence.

This is a notion that is logically and mathematically true, but inherentl hard for the human mind to grasp. Mathemetation/philosopher Putnam (I believe. May have the wrong name) has a great way of illustrating this that makes your mind revolt.

If you put 9 red apples in a bucket, and one golden apple in with them, you cannot said that you are any more likely to get a red apple than the golden apple in a single bobbing attempt.

But, your mind protests, there are 9 times as many red apples!

Yes, the theory of probability says, but all probability means is that if you bob ten times (and put the apple back each time), you can expect to get a red apple 9 of the times, and the golden apple once. It simply does not mean that you are more likely to get the red apple in one specific isolated attempt.

The mathematics of probability simply don't work that way, even as much as your minds heuristics tell you it does.

I can see the libs with their megaphones now "If Romney gets elected he will cut FEMA to the bone, so if a storm like Sandy happens while in office, you'll be on your own. So if your poor,  injured or stranded, Romney doesn't care about you, all he cares about is the rich". Hey, I think there will be enough in the budget to at least save the rich during a disaster.

The straw grabbing is getting more fun to watch as the days get closer.

 

"It did, in fact, merge with a nor'easter that slid down from the great leaks. I watched it happen. That nor'easter is now caught up in the storm's continuing rotation. You can still see the parts of it that merged because they're the parts still SNOWING."

Weatherman Joe Bastardi ranted about the idea Sandy wasnt a hurricane , and said the lack of hurricane warnings along the NJ shore was criminal.

He points out the 1938 New England hurricane was also swept up the coast by an approaching cold front and by the same flawed logic , it wasnt a "hurricane" either.

Hurricanes can cause snow on its fringes , that itself doesnt change what it is... 

In response to MattyScornD's comment:

Romney will not only gut FEMA, but he also has his sights set on the Veteran's Administration too. Ofcourse, he won't admit to it, but its in Ryan's draconian budget.

Romney will not only gut FEMA, but he also has his sights set on the Veteran's Administration too. Ofcourse, he won't admit to it, but its in Ryan's draconian budget.

Hey Vet's, I think OJ said it best "Look Out"!

They are not part of the 1%, I have no bearing in theit interest. Right?

 

In response to cookie-rojas' comment:

Are you sure that you are old enough to be posting here? How is Romney's proposed cuts to FEMA not part of the conversation...especially given the events of the last 24 hours. Do you have anything to say about Romney's position on this issue or are you just going to continue to deflect with nonsense?

In response to skeeter20's comment:

No...he doesn't have to be president for us to comment on his budget cut proposals..in fact that is the very nature of politics...to discuss where candidates stand on the issues prior to elections. If you're not interested in doing that..and simply interested in voting based on whether there is an "R" or a "D" next to the name..then why bother particpating in a political discussion forum??

In response to newman09's comment:

What, sir, are you suggesting? Are you suggesting we cannot trust Romney to do what he says he will do?

In response to BetheKoolaid's comment:

 

 

bobinVa, this isn't some librul conspiracy.

You don't need to automatically assume that everything someone you called a librul is lying.

I checked the radar every hour or two the day before it hit. Ok? There were two storms:

1. A big snow and ice storm moving south and vaguely east from the great lakes.

2. The hurricane moving north by northwest towards NJ, where it ultimately hit.

#2 moved NW from NJ and hit #1 as it was moving SE. #1 got pulled into the rotation of the arm of the hurricane it hit and was incorporated when I looked at the radar before posting.

 

 

 

 

 

.......and....what lack of hurricane warnings? Every news source I looked at made it front page news....