Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

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    Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    Yesterday's White House luncheon should have been a different affair; Obama should have been hosting Huntsman and his transition team.

    Jon Huntsman to GOP: Avoid fringe issues

    Politico

    By: Katie Glueck

     

    November 30, 2012 09:00 AM EST

     

    Jon Huntsman said Friday that if the GOP can stay away from fringe issues and instead focuses on bread-and-butter Republican principles, the party will be better for it.

     

    If we stick to a mantra that says strong individual liberty and economic freedom and a right-sized government, that's always going to be relevant for the American people based on our constitutional government, the former Utah governor and presidential hopeful said on CNN's Starting Point.  But we kind of drift in areas where we take on fringe issues, and it gets us stuck in the alleyways of life that take our focus away from what is really important for the American people, and that is individual freedom and that is getting the budgets balanced so people can get on with their lives. 

    Huntsman praised the soul-searching the GOP has undertaken since it's Nov. 6 losses, but added that ultimately, the party needs a simplified mission statement. 

    "We have some structural issues," he said. "I think the deliberation about the Republican Party that we're having is a very healthy thing. And if we don't wind up at the end of the exercise with a mission statement that is one sentence long, then we're toast. That one statement ought to be, 'Balance the budgets and get out of people's lives. And you ought to build the party around that because we have strong libertarian roots that go way back to the early days of the Republican Party." 

    Huntsman, who has also served as the Obama administration's U.S. ambassador to China, stressed that American leadership rather than "fringe issues" matters most going forward.

     

    "So what did the two most important people in this country sit down and talk about yesterday at lunch?" Huntsman said, referencing President Barack Obama's Thursday meeting with GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. "When everything else is done, and the election is wrapped up, it isn't about social issues. It isn't about the fringe issues. They sat down and talked about America's leadership in the world. So at the end of the day, that's what matters most, to Republicans, and to Democrats. How do you get to where we need to be?"

     
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    Who cares about the GOP anymore ? Let's care about what is good for the country.

     
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    I wonder if Huntsman would've had a better showing than Mittens.

    Would the wingnuts and tbaggers have supported such a reasoned candidate to the extent that he wouldn't have to worry about his base which would allow him to challenge Obama for the moderate voters?




     

    Yeah Huntsman v Obama.
    A liberal v a communist.
    What an exciting choice.

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    Coulda.  Shoulda.  Woulda.

     

    There is no room for moderation in today's GOP.  The world is changing around them, while they run themselves to death on a treadmill of propaganda and piety.

     

    Only four major cities in the U.S. voted Repub in 2012: OK City, SLC, Phoenix, Fort Worth (and Phoenix was very close).  That's what 16 years of fake cowboy presidents gets you.

     

     

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to ThatWasMe's comment:

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    I wonder if Huntsman would've had a better showing than Mittens.

    Would the wingnuts and tbaggers have supported such a reasoned candidate to the extent that he wouldn't have to worry about his base which would allow him to challenge Obama for the moderate voters?




     Yeah Huntsman v Obama.
    A liberal v a communist.
    What an exciting choice.



    Either way, you still wouldn't have been able to read to polls.  Tell us all again about the Gallup daily tracking poll.....

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    Huntsman had no chance of beating Obama simply by virtue of the fact that he couldn't even beat the rogues gallery of cartoon villains assembled in the GOP primaries. 

    Romney tried, hard, to court conservatives during the primaries and consistently polled at 25 to 30% while being overtaken at various points by such pragmatic thinkers like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrinch, and Rick Perry.  As far as the primaries were concerned Romney was the village toilet, everyone had a chance to drop a deuce on him.  And the only thing that separated him from the pack wasn't his keen business acumen and it most certainly wasn't his governorship of MA, it was because he could saturate the airwaves whenever one of those pretenders got close or briefly surpassed him in the polls because he had more money than anyone else. 

    The dynamics Romney faced would have been even worse for Huntsman since he lacked the name recognition and was tainted by the stink of liberalism because he took a job in the Obama admin.  He never had a path to victory within the party which is why Tim Pawlenty was done early and Mitch Daniels didn't even bother. 

    The GOP should be ashamed of the candidates it ran, but they are a reflection of the party, its voters, and its priorities. 

     

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to ThatWasMe's comment:

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    I wonder if Huntsman would've had a better showing than Mittens.

    Would the wingnuts and tbaggers have supported such a reasoned candidate to the extent that he wouldn't have to worry about his base which would allow him to challenge Obama for the moderate voters?



    If you think that Huntsman was a liberal then you never researched his positions.

    He just wasn't a social conservative, but on policy and finances he was hte right guy as well as his foreign policy acumen.

     

     

    Yeah Huntsman v Obama.
    A liberal v a communist.
    What an exciting choice.




     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    Huntsman had no chance of beating Obama simply by virtue of the fact that he couldn't even beat the rogues gallery of cartoon villains assembled in the GOP primaries. 

    Romney tried, hard, to court conservatives during the primaries and consistently polled at 25 to 30% while being overtaken at various points by such pragmatic thinkers like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrinch, and Rick Perry.  As far as the primaries were concerned Romney was the village toilet, everyone had a chance to drop a deuce on him.  And the only thing that separated him from the pack wasn't his keen business acumen and it most certainly wasn't his governorship of MA, it was because he could saturate the airwaves whenever one of those pretenders got close or briefly surpassed him in the polls because he had more money than anyone else. 

    The dynamics Romney faced would have been even worse for Huntsman since he lacked the name recognition and was tainted by the stink of liberalism because he took a job in the Obama admin.  He never had a path to victory within the party which is why Tim Pawlenty was done early and Mitch Daniels didn't even bother. 

    The GOP should be ashamed of the candidates it ran, but they are a reflection of the party, its voters, and its priorities. 

     



    The Republican Governors are a much younger dynamic group then the past leadership; thes folks will make an impact

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    Huntsman had no chance of beating Obama simply by virtue of the fact that he couldn't even beat the rogues gallery of cartoon villains assembled in the GOP primaries. 

    Romney tried, hard, to court conservatives during the primaries and consistently polled at 25 to 30% while being overtaken at various points by such pragmatic thinkers like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrinch, and Rick Perry.  As far as the primaries were concerned Romney was the village toilet, everyone had a chance to drop a deuce on him.  And the only thing that separated him from the pack wasn't his keen business acumen and it most certainly wasn't his governorship of MA, it was because he could saturate the airwaves whenever one of those pretenders got close or briefly surpassed him in the polls because he had more money than anyone else. 

    The dynamics Romney faced would have been even worse for Huntsman since he lacked the name recognition and was tainted by the stink of liberalism because he took a job in the Obama admin.  He never had a path to victory within the party which is why Tim Pawlenty was done early and Mitch Daniels didn't even bother. 

    The GOP should be ashamed of the candidates it ran, but they are a reflection of the party, its voters, and its priorities. 

     



    The Republican Governors are a much younger dynamic group then the past leadership; thes folks will make an impact




    it wasn't the messenger it was the message !

     

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    Who cares about the GOP anymore ? Let's care about what is good for the country.




    Agreed.   Establishment republicans are not up to the job.  Let's get some conservatives in there and straighten this mess out!

    You with me?

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to ThatWasMe's comment:

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    I wonder if Huntsman would've had a better showing than Mittens.

    Would the wingnuts and tbaggers have supported such a reasoned candidate to the extent that he wouldn't have to worry about his base which would allow him to challenge Obama for the moderate voters?




     

    Yeah Huntsman v Obama.
    A liberal v a communist.
    What an exciting choice.



    Huntsman and their ilk should move to the Democrat party.  That's a win-win.

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    Yesterday's White House luncheon should have been a different affair; Obama should have been hosting Huntsman and his transition team.

    Jon Huntsman to GOP: Avoid fringe issues

    Politico

    By: Katie Glueck

     

    November 30, 2012 09:00 AM EST

     

    Jon Huntsman said Friday that if the GOP can stay away from fringe issues and instead focuses on bread-and-butter Republican principles, the party will be better for it.

     

    If we stick to a mantra that says strong individual liberty and economic freedom and a right-sized government, that's always going to be relevant for the American people based on our constitutional government, the former Utah governor and presidential hopeful said on CNN's Starting Point.  But we kind of drift in areas where we take on fringe issues, and it gets us stuck in the alleyways of life that take our focus away from what is really important for the American people, and that is individual freedom and that is getting the budgets balanced so people can get on with their lives. 

    Huntsman praised the soul-searching the GOP has undertaken since it's Nov. 6 losses, but added that ultimately, the party needs a simplified mission statement. 

    "We have some structural issues," he said. "I think the deliberation about the Republican Party that we're having is a very healthy thing. And if we don't wind up at the end of the exercise with a mission statement that is one sentence long, then we're toast. That one statement ought to be, 'Balance the budgets and get out of people's lives. And you ought to build the party around that because we have strong libertarian roots that go way back to the early days of the Republican Party." 

    Huntsman, who has also served as the Obama administration's U.S. ambassador to China, stressed that American leadership rather than "fringe issues" matters most going forward.

     

    "So what did the two most important people in this country sit down and talk about yesterday at lunch?" Huntsman said, referencing President Barack Obama's Thursday meeting with GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. "When everything else is done, and the election is wrapped up, it isn't about social issues. It isn't about the fringe issues. They sat down and talked about America's leadership in the world. So at the end of the day, that's what matters most, to Republicans, and to Democrats. How do you get to where we need to be?"




    As much as it pains me to say this, the Huntsmans's and Romney's of the republican party should just walk across the border tothe democrat party.  that's where most of their ideology belongs.  for the issues where I agree with them, all the better.  The democrats will by necessity move towards the center.  So, a win-win.  We get to run REAL conservatives, and the democrats run REAL moderates.  then, let the people decide.

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    Who cares about the GOP anymore ? Let's care about what is good for the country.




    Agreed.   Establishment republicans are not up to the job.  Let's get some conservatives in there and straighten this mess out!

    You with me?




    I'm with you ! Bring back Goldwater at least he was who he said he was !

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    The GOP should also avoid nominating a professional financial manipulator for president so soon after a recession induced by professional financial manipulators.

     
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    The GOP should also avoid nominating a professional financial manipulator for president so soon after a recession induced by professional financial manipulators.




    And the Democrats should stop running marxists who's entire world of expereince is teaching people how to protest more effectively.  It's not exaclty working out well for the country.

     
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    Re: Huntsman to GOP: Avoid ‘fringe issues’

    'Balance the budgets and get out of people's lives. And you ought to build the party around that because we have strong libertarian roots that go way back to the early days of the Republican Party."

     

    Add maintain a strong national defense and that's exactly what most Republicans care most about. Sadly, they can't seem to get that simple, strong message out through the chaff getting thrown up by democrats and their media lackys.

     

     
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