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If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    HOUSTON – The teenage son of a Harris County Precinct 1 deputy shot a home intruder Tuesday afternoon in the 2600 block of Royal Place in northwest Harris County, deputies said.

    The 15-year-old boy and his 12-year-old sister had been home alone in the Mount Royal Village subdivision when around 2:30 p.m. a pair of burglars tried the front and back doors, then broke a back window.

    The teenager grabbed his father's assault rifle and knew what to do with it.

    “We don't try to hide things from our children in law enforcement,” Lt. Jeffrey Stauber said. “That young boy was protecting his sister. He was in fear for his life and her life.”

    The home invaders fled, leaving a trail of blood.

    Shortly afterwards, two suspects showed up at Tomball hospital. One was an adult and was hit at least three times. Lifeflight flew him to Memorial Hermann hospital in the Medical Center. The second suspect, a juvenile, was taken back to the crime scene, authorities said.

    Neighbors said burglars had recently struck the two houses next door, including the deputy's home.

    “They stole everything -- what they have inside. They already did it one time,” Rafael Cortez said.

    http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Burglary-suspect-shot-by-15-year-old-son-of-deputy-97430719.html

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    No, it doesn't.

    Next.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from tvoter. Show tvoter's posts

    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    No, it doesn't.

    Next.



    You dont matter; seriously you dont!

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    Heh, heh, heh... is that your narcissism showing again or your irony in replying to a post from someone who 'doesn't matter'.

    Hey did ya happen to catch this 'insightful' post?

    "...tendency toward narcissism... They can delete unflattering comments. They can block anyone who disagrees with them or pokes holes in their inflated self-esteem."

    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/a-psychiatrist-view-of-the-problem/80/6493007

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from tvoter. Show tvoter's posts

    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh... is that your narcissism showing again or your irony in replying to a post from someone who 'doesn't matter'.

    Hey did ya happen to catch this 'insightful' post?

    "...tendency toward narcissism... They can delete unflattering comments. They can block anyone who disagrees with them or pokes holes in their inflated self-esteem."

    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/a-psychiatrist-view-of-the-problem/80/6493007



    No just my view. In my view your a board asshat who just rants and uses school yard bully tactics to try and slander people with differing views which means "you dont matter"! sorry boy but, you can troll somewhere else now.

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    No just my view. In my view your a board asshat who just rants and uses school yard bully tactics to try and slander people with differing views which means "you dont matter"! sorry boy but, you can troll somewhere else now.



    Heh, heh, heh... glad you're taking that study to heart:

    "...tendency toward narcissism... They can delete unflattering comments. They can block anyone who disagrees with them or pokes holes in their inflated self-esteem."

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    No because, whether the kid had a glock 9mm or an AR 15 its hard to argue the results would have been any different. 

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    Why do we have the 2nd Amendment? Is it just for self-defense and hunting? Hmmmm.,,,,,

     




    Well, I know it is not for hunting.  Deer were not shot where that statue stands.

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    No because, whether the kid had a glock 9mm or an AR 15 its hard to argue the results would have been any different. 



    So then why are people only asking to ban assault weapons??? If the results would be the same whether a glock 9mm or an AR-15 then why the need to discriminate between non-assault and assault weapons??? : )

     

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    Why do we have the 2nd Amendment? Is it just for self-defense and hunting? Hmmmm.,,,,,

     



    If, you include self defense against a tyrannical govt; then yes.

     

    "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government" 

                                                        George Washington                                                          

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home - SCOTUS June 2008

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    word is Dirty Harry is getting too much flak from his Nevada constituents and will bury any real gun legislation in the senate. lol A dem kills gun legislation; how ironic is that??

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    word is Dirty Harry is getting too much flak from his Nevada constituents and will bury any real gun legislation in the senate. lol A dem kills gun legislation; how ironic is that??




    I wouldn't bet on it.  He's been pretty vocal on gun control in the past few weeks and i'd bet this is his last term.  He'll be pushing 80 when his term is up in 2016.

     

     

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    word is Dirty Harry is getting too much flak from his Nevada constituents and will bury any real gun legislation in the senate. lol A dem kills gun legislation; how ironic is that??



    I wouldn't bet on it.  He's been pretty vocal on gun control in the past few weeks and i'd bet this is his last term.  He'll be pushing 80 when his term is up in 2016. 




    You are niave. Its not all about re-election;he's a career politician and it's about enjoying the perks and sweet deals he gets now and will continue to get if, he supports the right folks!

    Turn on them and it all goes away...

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    No because, whether the kid had a glock 9mm or an AR 15 its hard to argue the results would have been any different. 



    So then why are people only asking to ban assault weapons??? If the results would be the same whether a glock 9mm or an AR-15 then why the need to discriminate between non-assault and assault weapons??? : )

     




    No because Glocks are not designed specifically for the muzzle to stay on target while firing maximizing lethality in addition to being capable of carry a huge amount of ammunition.  If that kid fired 3 or 4 times from a pistol and hit the intruders they still would have run away.  Now if Adam Lanza had only used a pistol perhaps they lethality of his attack would have been diminished and someone could have stopped him when he had to reload, or switch weapons vs the AR 15.

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    No because, whether the kid had a glock 9mm or an AR 15 its hard to argue the results would have been any different. 



    So then why are people only asking to ban assault weapons??? If the results would be the same whether a glock 9mm or an AR-15 then why the need to discriminate between non-assault and assault weapons??? : )

     




    No because Glocks are not designed specifically for the muzzle to stay on target while firing maximizing lethality in addition to being capable of carry a huge amount of ammunition.  If that kid fired 3 or 4 times from a pistol and hit the intruders they still would have run away.  Now if Adam Lanza had only used a pistol perhaps they lethality of his attack would have been diminished and someone could have stopped him when he had to reload, or switch weapons vs the AR 15.



    So you're backtracking on your original statement:

    "No because, whether the kid had a glock 9mm or an AR 15 its hard to argue the results would have been any different. "

    Oh by the way...glock 9mm does not have much of a kick and therefore has no issue staying on target.  Especially at close range. Also Glock 9mm has a 33 round capacity magazine available. But even with a 17 or even ten round clips, it takes all of about two seconds to drop and load a mag. Case in point the VT Tech massacre

    The VT Tech shooting that resulted in 33 deaths? Yeah that was from two handguns. Let me say that again...two handguns. One was a 9mm the other a .22. Oh and the round capacity magazines in both guns? Ten rounds. That's right ten rounds. Two handguns 33 deaths. Nuff said

     

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

    In response to Newtster's comment:

    Why do we have the 2nd Amendment? Is it just for self-defense and hunting? Hmmmm.,,,,,

     




    You're right, the 2nd amend should only apply to members of a militia.

     
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    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    In response to Newtster's comment:

    Why do we have the 2nd Amendment? Is it just for self-defense and hunting? Hmmmm.,,,,,

     




    You're right, the 2nd amend should only apply to members of a militia.



    Unfortunately for you Supreme Court disagrees with you.

     
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    Unfortunately for you Supreme Court disagrees with you.



    ...and, apparently, whoever posted the picture.

     
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    Unfortunately for you Supreme Court disagrees with you.




    ...and, apparently, whoever posted the picture.

     



    You ever tire of being wrong? 

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    No because Glocks are not designed specifically for the muzzle to stay on target while firing maximizing lethality in addition to being capable of carry a huge amount of ammunition.  If that kid fired 3 or 4 times from a pistol and hit the intruders they still would have run away.  Now if Adam Lanza had only used a pistol perhaps they lethality of his attack would have been diminished and someone could have stopped him when he had to reload, or switch weapons vs the AR 15.



    He could have walked in with 2 semi automatic shotguns and 00 buck shot with a few extra clips and arguably done more damage due to the FACT that 1 shot at 20 feet with 00 buckshot (shooting ball bearings) will decimate anyone it hits within a 5 foot spread which could have been 2 or 3 kids with every shot!

     
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    He could have walked in with 2 semi automatic shotguns and 00 buck shot with a few extra clips and arguably done more damage due to the FACT that 1 shot at 20 feet with 00 buckshot (shooting ball bearings) will decimate anyone it hits within a 5 foot spread which could have been 2 or 3 kids with every shot!




    He could have used home-made grenades and tossed a few into each classroom...but he didn't.

     

    So what's your point?

    No one is saying there aren't a hundred other ways to kill people.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't try and narrow it down to 99 or 98.

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    He could have walked in with 2 semi automatic shotguns and 00 buck shot with a few extra clips and arguably done more damage due to the FACT that 1 shot at 20 feet with 00 buckshot (shooting ball bearings) will decimate anyone it hits within a 5 foot spread which could have been 2 or 3 kids with every shot!




    He could have used home-made grenades and tossed a few into each classroom...but he didn't.

     

    So what's your point?

    No one is saying there aren't a hundred other ways to kill people.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't try and narrow it down to 99 or 98.



    Haha...that's like shoveling sand against the tide. Assault weapons were used during the assault weapons ban. They've also been used in states where assault weapons have remained banned, see MA and CA. So you really think you're going to "narrow it down" eh???

     

     
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    Re: If an AR- 15 saved lives in the private sector does it make a difference?

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    [/QUOTE]

    Haha...that's like shoveling sand against the tide. Assault weapons were used during the assault weapons ban. They've also been used in states where assault weapons have remained banned, see MA and CA. So you really think you're going to "narrow it down" eh???

     [/QUOTE]

    He is (like the rest) just following party lines!

     

     

     
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