If this were a conservative pastor. . .

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    On Wednesday, the daughter of President Barack Obama’s pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was indicted on charges of lying to federal authorities and money laundering.

    Jeri Wright was charged with seven counts of giving false testimony to a grand jury, two counts of money laundering, and two counts of making false statements to federal officers in a case involving a $1.25 million state grant for a non-profit program called “We Are Our Brother’s Keeper.”

    The indictment alleges that Wright bagged three checks totaling $28,000 in funds intended for work related to the grant.




    Nothing surprising about that.

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    If this was a conservative pastor, then Feds would have indicted on charges which is exactly what is happening to the president's pastors daughter. 

    Not sure what your thread title is implying?

     
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    The Rev Wright didnt do the crime, his child did.  And for the record I see news of this all over and nearly all of the articles mention Obama despite the fact he has absolutely nothing to do with the actual story, in any way, whatsoever. 

     
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    If this were a conservative pastor it would be news as well....  Maybe?  Depends on the newsworthiness of the pastor.  And is this story really news at all?

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    I smell a future Presidential pardon......and nobody will say a word....

    Is the guy that blew up the Pan Am flight that killed all of those Syracuse students still alive???  The one we allowed to be freed.....remember him??

     
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    "We" didn't free anyone, the Scots did.  The US objected.  And no he isn't still alive.

     
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    I smell a future Presidential pardon......and nobody will say a word....

    Is the guy that blew up the Pan Am flight that killed all of those Syracuse students still alive???  The one we allowed to be freed.....remember him??



    You are tallking about the Lockerbie bombing and the fact that a Scottish court released the murderer because he was dying of cancer.  You live in Scotland ("we" allowed to be freed)?  Or do you think Obama controls that country...

     
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    What is this world coming to when you can't trust the daughter of a pastor?

    But holy Jim Bakker!!!...you can't trust the pastors either!

    This is why I do not participate in any organized ( or even in a disorganized) religion.

    Religion makes politics look good....and it isn't.

     
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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.




    Rev. Wright is a racist radical!

     
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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     


    Rev. Wright is a racist radical!



    So...what's your point?

     

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     


    Rev. Wright is a racist radical!

     



    So...what's your point?

     

     



    I think his point was that he thinks Wright is a racist radical. 

     
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    I think his point was that he thinks Wright is a racist radical.

    I think you nailed it!

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    In response to miscricket's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

     

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.




    That's funny what you wrote right there.

    If you knew your history, you would know that liberation theology rose up out of marxist struggle in south america in the 50's, and was coopted by a radical progressive named Cohn (sp?), and turned into black liberation theology.

    As far as the specifics:  it is not bible centric, but race centric.  It does not hold to the teaching about christ inthebible, but to the teachings of very human black leaders.  So, very non-conservative theologically.

    But, don't let the facts stand in your way.  Godd@m the U.S. of KKKKA!

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

     

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.

     




    That's funny what you wrote right there.

     

    If you knew your history, you would know that liberation theology rose up out of marxist struggle in south america in the 50's, and was coopted by a radical progressive named Cohn (sp?), and turned into black liberation theology.

    As far as the specifics:  it is not bible centric, but race centric.  It does not hold to the teaching about christ inthebible, but to the teachings of very human black leaders.  So, very non-conservative theologically.

    But, don't let the facts stand in your way.  Godd@m the U.S. of KKKKA!



    So you think Unitarians and Black liberation theory are both liberal in their approach? Because you say so...   Are Mormons conservative?  Buddhists liberal?  How about Hindus?  The original Christian cult?  How about Scientologists?  Political terminology for religious theory and practices is just an ill fit.  But you have an inherent need to politicize everything...

     
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    Re: If this were a conservative pastor. . .

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

     

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.

     




    That's funny what you wrote right there.

     

    If you knew your history, you would know that liberation theology rose up out of marxist struggle in south america in the 50's, and was coopted by a radical progressive named Cohn (sp?), and turned into black liberation theology.

    As far as the specifics:  it is not bible centric, but race centric.  It does not hold to the teaching about christ inthebible, but to the teachings of very human black leaders.  So, very non-conservative theologically.

    But, don't let the facts stand in your way.  Godd@m the U.S. of KKKKA!

     



    So you think Unitarians and Black liberation theory are both liberal in their approach? Because you say so...   Are Mormons conservative?  Buddhists liberal?  How about Hindus?  The original Christian cult?  How about Scientologists?  Political terminology for religious theory and practices is just an ill fit.  But you have an inherent need to politicize everything...

     




    The labels are not political within religious groups.  "conservative" generally applies to those who follow the bible closely.  "liberal" generally applies to those that don't. 

    Rev. Wright is extremely liberal in his religious views.

    And conservative in terms of religion does not necessarily translate into conservative politically.  I know several conservative believers who voted for Obama, much to my consternation.

     

     
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

     

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.

     




    That's funny what you wrote right there.

     

    If you knew your history, you would know that liberation theology rose up out of marxist struggle in south america in the 50's, and was coopted by a radical progressive named Cohn (sp?), and turned into black liberation theology.

    As far as the specifics:  it is not bible centric, but race centric.  It does not hold to the teaching about christ inthebible, but to the teachings of very human black leaders.  So, very non-conservative theologically.

    But, don't let the facts stand in your way.  Godd@m the U.S. of KKKKA!

     



    So you think Unitarians and Black liberation theory are both liberal in their approach? Because you say so...   Are Mormons conservative?  Buddhists liberal?  How about Hindus?  The original Christian cult?  How about Scientologists?  Political terminology for religious theory and practices is just an ill fit.  But you have an inherent need to politicize everything...

     

     




    The labels are not political within religious groups.  "conservative" generally applies to those who follow the bible closely.  "liberal" generally applies to those that don't. 

     

    Rev. Wright is extremely liberal in his religious views.

    And conservative in terms of religion does not necessarily translate into conservative politically.  I know several conservative believers who voted for Obama, much to my consternation.

     



    "Follow the Bible closely" is a phrase subject to considerable debate.  More than a few "liberal" preachers will say that "conservatives" follow the words and dogma without understanding the overall message. 

     
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    Rev. Wright is a conservative pastor.

    So are most imams.

     

    But I do so love the constant attempts to marry religion and politics.

    Keep it coming....

     

     

     




    Wright is/has preached black liberation theology, exclusively.  that is not conservative theology.  Believe it if you want, but don't mislabel it.

     

     

    As far as marrying politics and relgion:  Are you implying that... Americans chickens...are coming home....to roost?

     




    Of course it is conservatism. There is no logical way that you could consider Wright a liberal pastor. He is an isolationist. Liberation does not equal liberal. Of course what he preaches is conservative religious theory. The only difference is that it is conservative "black"  religious theory as opposed to conservative "caucasian" religious theory.

     

    When you think "liberal religious theory" you should be thinking of the Unitarians.

     




    That's funny what you wrote right there.

     

    If you knew your history, you would know that liberation theology rose up out of marxist struggle in south america in the 50's, and was coopted by a radical progressive named Cohn (sp?), and turned into black liberation theology.

    As far as the specifics:  it is not bible centric, but race centric.  It does not hold to the teaching about christ inthebible, but to the teachings of very human black leaders.  So, very non-conservative theologically.

    But, don't let the facts stand in your way.  Godd@m the U.S. of KKKKA!

     



    So you think Unitarians and Black liberation theory are both liberal in their approach? Because you say so...   Are Mormons conservative?  Buddhists liberal?  How about Hindus?  The original Christian cult?  How about Scientologists?  Political terminology for religious theory and practices is just an ill fit.  But you have an inherent need to politicize everything...

     

     




    The labels are not political within religious groups.  "conservative" generally applies to those who follow the bible closely.  "liberal" generally applies to those that don't. 

     

    Rev. Wright is extremely liberal in his religious views.

    And conservative in terms of religion does not necessarily translate into conservative politically.  I know several conservative believers who voted for Obama, much to my consternation.

     

     



    "Follow the Bible closely" is a phrase subject to considerable debate.  More than a few "liberal" preachers will say that "conservatives" follow the words and dogma without understanding the overall message. 

     




    And out here in the real world, we call those people, those that charge the "conservatives" with such actions, "liberal" theologically speaking.

    Not passing judgement on who is right or who is wrong, just the misapplication of the labels.

     
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