If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

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    If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    automatic spending cuts across the board to govt programs and tax hikes for everyone!

    why not?

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    The only way that's the "ONLY answer!" is if, in fact, it is Republicans refusing to compromise. Thank you for the admission.




    If your idea of compromise is still; do everything we want and get nothing in return because Obama won re-election then yes.

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    Doing all of that at one time would be disasterous possibly to the extent that the very slow recovery gains made up to this point could be unwound. 

    Similar to the debt limit fight, in the end the grandstading and theatrics will give way to pragmatic thinkers on both sides. 

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    Sometimes things have to hit bottom before they can climb again.

    NOMO hoping America fails.

    He's probably still wondering why the election was lost.

    If we go over the "cliff", it will be because of the obstructionistas (the GOP), which will hurt them in the midterms. But I dont think they get that. 

    And the beat goes on....

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

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    A combination of revenue increases and spending cuts is what we need. Not just one or just the other



    Where are dems compromising on "real" spending cuts?

     
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    On a side note, what is it with all the guitar playing avatars?

    Rock star envy? Forget it already. Now go clear out the paper jam in the copier.

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    I related this to the GM fiasco. They continue to lose market share all year. There is another bailout in the wind. Shoveling money into a loser does not work. Sometimes things have to hit bottom before they can climb again.
     




    Ideologically ignorant is no way to muddle through life ,numbnuts. 

    GM said Thursday that it sold 9.025 million vehicles in 2011. That would put it first among global carmakers, ahead of Volkswagen, with sales of 8.015 million, according to The New York Times.

     

    Morgan Stanley analysts Adam Jonas, Ravi Shanker, and Yejay Ying are in the group that’s not worried. In their opinion GM’s smaller (US) share is not a concern for four reasons:

    1. Pricing is strong with average transaction prices up 3.4% to a record high.
    2. GM will be refreshing 80% of its U.S. line-up by 2014 - more than any other auto maker.
    3. GM’s retail sales (much more profitable and important) are outpacing fleet sales.
    4. GM sales in the hottest auto segments (crossover, small car) are at multi-year highs.

    Bottom line: Morgan Stanley likes the way GM is transitioning towards becoming an auto maker focused on growing profits instead of just scrambling to hang on to market share for the sake of having market share.

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

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    Where are dems compromising on "real" spending cuts?



    That is not compromise by anyone standards!!

    I believe the tentative deal cantor blew up was 2 trillion of cuts and 2 trillino of revenue, over 10 years.



    No those were not actual "cuts" it was a play on words that actually meant only reduced growth; nothing was actually cut and they didnt take affect for 2-3 years while the tax hikes were immediate.

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

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    On a side note, what is it with all the guitar playing avatars?

     


    Beats still having an avatar of the man who said he'd never run again if he lost this time around.



    Do ya get the irony of that with my avatar? Im expecting him to throw his hat into the 2016 ring as soon as he comes out of hiding!

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    If the republicans are serious about fixing the economy then they must agree to increasing the tax rate on multimillionaires and billionaires and closing some loopholes!

    If the dems are serious about fixing the economy then they must agree to actual cuts that mean reducing the current being money paid to govt programs and enacting real reform to overlapping and wasteful programs!

    Both sides MUST compomise and make hard decisions their base will balk at and we as conservative and liberal must hold our own sides accountable and not let them pit us against each other again!!!

    Get real about what is actually happening!

     
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    Re: If we really want revenue increases and tax hikes then maybe going over the fiscal cliff is the ONLY answer!

    If the republicans are serious about fixing the economy then they must agree to increasing the tax rate on multimillionaires and billionaires and closing some loopholes!

    If the dems are serious about fixing the economy then they must agree to actual cuts that mean reducing the current being money paid to govt programs and enacting real reform to overlapping and wasteful programs!

    Both sides MUST compomise and make hard decisions their base will balk at and we as conservative and liberal must hold our own sides accountable and not let them pit us against each other again!!!

    Get real about what is actually happening!

     
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