Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/24/2013 1:53 PM EST
In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:
In response to GreginMeffa's comment:
Uhm, yes they can. Still kinda empty, all ya gotta do (due?) is say yessim boss, I done voted just like ya told me to.Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/24/2013 2:02 PM EST
In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
In response to tvoter's comment:
BOOM, the morons who think one side is crooked and the other is not are completely clueless on the political reality
Who thinks that?
I think the real trouble lies with people, who not always but tend here to be of one political persuasion, that respond to posts about "X person / X party did ABC that is wrong" with "oh yeah? Well YOUR guy did THIS".
As if two wrongs make a right, or at least, the fact of a prior wrong somewhere in spacetime on one's own side immunizes the bad guy on the other side from comment.
(Or, as if the fact of a prior wrong somewhere in spacetime on one's own side means that before one criticizes something on the other side, one is obligated by magic internets rules to post a list of all bad like things on one's own side).
I think we all know what I'm talking about, even if flat denials come out in response.
Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/24/2013 2:09 PM EST
In response to tvoter's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
It absolutely is disenfranchisement if even a single person is turned away, regardless of the reason.
Honestly, I think it's appalling you had to wait two hours. Credit to you for staying, but not everyone has that luxury and, point-of-fact, a lot of people just don't. I waited about 5 minutes. It took longer to walk the three blocks to my polling station. So, how is that fair?
If the local/municipal/regional election authorities cannot get it together enough to properly estimate turnout, number of ballots needed, space needed...whatever...then they need to find another line of work. In any case, there is NO justification whatsoever for making it HARDER to vote on purpose.
BS! If you cant wait in line or are unsure take advantage of early voting available to everyone!!
Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/24/2013 2:30 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to tvoter's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
It absolutely is disenfranchisement if even a single person is turned away, regardless of the reason.
Honestly, I think it's appalling you had to wait two hours. Credit to you for staying, but not everyone has that luxury and, point-of-fact, a lot of people just don't. I waited about 5 minutes. It took longer to walk the three blocks to my polling station. So, how is that fair?
If the local/municipal/regional election authorities cannot get it together enough to properly estimate turnout, number of ballots needed, space needed...whatever...then they need to find another line of work. In any case, there is NO justification whatsoever for making it HARDER to vote on purpose.
BS! If you cant wait in line or are unsure take advantage of early voting available to everyone!!
Early voting is NOT available to everyone. And even some early voting is woefully inadequate for the population it purports to serve. Both points were writ large last November.
Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/24/2013 3:09 PM EST
In response to tvoter's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to tvoter's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
It absolutely is disenfranchisement if even a single person is turned away, regardless of the reason.
Honestly, I think it's appalling you had to wait two hours. Credit to you for staying, but not everyone has that luxury and, point-of-fact, a lot of people just don't. I waited about 5 minutes. It took longer to walk the three blocks to my polling station. So, how is that fair?
If the local/municipal/regional election authorities cannot get it together enough to properly estimate turnout, number of ballots needed, space needed...whatever...then they need to find another line of work. In any case, there is NO justification whatsoever for making it HARDER to vote on purpose.
BS! If you cant wait in line or are unsure take advantage of early voting available to everyone!!
Early voting is NOT available to everyone. And even some early voting is woefully inadequate for the population it purports to serve. Both points were writ large last November.
You are full of BS! It needs improvement but, it's absolutely not like hundreds of thousands or ten of thousands do not have a way to vote without too much inconvienence!
http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000287
Over 3 million voters cannot vote due to a previous felony conviction, as per some state laws. 10% of eligible voters in FL alone!
2012 had the highest % turnout in the presidential election since 1968 and yet still was only 57%. Granted, some people just don't feel like it, but that's no excuse to erecting barriers to willing voters.
Among JUST those otherwise eligible felon voters, that 57% would be over 1.7 million votes denied.
Re: if you can't win fair □
posted at 1/25/2013 10:01 AM EST
Over 3 million voters cannot vote due to a previous felony conviction, as per some state laws
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If thats the law, then thats the law. I remember when felons could vote in Mass FROM PRISON. We put an end to that, 350 cities and towns to 1. Guess which one?
