Instead of congratulating ourselves for shutting down the detention EIT program, we should ask whether its closure is leading us to kill people we might otherwise capture.

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    4. The people surrounding a terrorist sure know what his occupation is.


    Even the Children?

    If they're old enough, yes. That's one reason terrorism is perpetuated, kids are indoctrinated early.

    And if they're not old enough, their parents, who are responsible for them, certainly know this.

     



    So, it's ok to kill small children since it's the parents fault?

     




    Don't be a dolt.

    It's an unfortunate consequence of being at war.

    There is absolutely NO WAY to prevent collateral damage during a war. It's IMPOSSIBLE.

    What you can do is MINIMIZE that damage to the extent possible while still effectively prosecuting that war.

     
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    It's an unfortunate consequence of being at war.

    There is absolutely NO WAY to prevent collateral damage during a war. It's IMPOSSIBLE.




    So not bombing someone from 30,000 feet in their family home or in a car with their family wouldn't do this?

     
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    It's an unfortunate consequence of being at war.

    There is absolutely NO WAY to prevent collateral damage during a war. It's IMPOSSIBLE.

     




    So not bombing someone from 30,000 feet in their family home or in a car with their family wouldn't do this?

     




     

    Well then, according to your definition it wouldn't be an assasination.

     

     

     
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    Not that you know of.

     

     

    One example I have where we did that was Grenada.  Not a masive military power, but, hostile, lacking our own support structure.

     

     

     

     

     




     

    You are absolutely wrong.

    That was the first engagement I was in as a spec op and we had a contingent of Seals, Marines, Rangers and Airborne - somewhere in the neighborhood of 6000 soldiers - as well as close air support, helicopter gunships and naval fire support. There were more aircraft swarming in the air than legitimate targets we had for them to hit.

     



    Yes, I know something about the subject.  Maybe I read your comment wrong.  I took it to mean that we would not deploy to areas where we do not have local friendlies (we didn't)or established operating bases (we didn't)

    Is that what you meant?

     
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    Not that you know of.

     

     

    One example I have where we did that was Grenada.  Not a masive military power, but, hostile, lacking our own support structure.

     

     

     

     

     




     

    You are absolutely wrong.

    That was the first engagement I was in as a spec op and we had a contingent of Seals, Marines, Rangers and Airborne - somewhere in the neighborhood of 6000 soldiers - as well as close air support, helicopter gunships and naval fire support. There were more aircraft swarming in the air than legitimate targets we had for them to hit.

     



    Yes, I know something about the subject.  Maybe I read your comment wrong.  I took it to mean that we would not deploy to areas where we do not have local friendlies (we didn't)or established operating bases (we didn't)

    Is that what you meant?

     
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