Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    Since many of us on here (yours truly included) have used the term socialist to describe Obama's thinking, I thought this article would be a decent read.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1030/p09s01-coop.html
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    Could it happen in America? Consider the words of longtime Socialist Party of America presidential candidate Norman Thomas: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."



     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    No, not according to the actual presidential candidate for the US Socialist Party.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]
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    />Obama says his Name is A frican Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic

    Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Oba
    /> If elected, he would be the first Arab-American
    /> President, not the first black President. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was > from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein

    Obama's father's birth certificate states he is Arab not black.

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    Hey aussiefaire:

    Your anti-Muslim and anti-Arab bias just shows plainly. Even if Obama is of Arab descent and a Muslim, that should not dissuade voters in this country from electing him POTUS. But I guess you and your ilk cannot stomach that thought!

     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]Is Barack Obama really a socialist?

    No, but Sarah Palin is.

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/11/03/081103taco_talk_hertzberg[/Quote]

    Kirk,

    I agree with you that Sarah Palin is.

    I'll disagree with you on Obama; I think he, Biden, McCain and Palin are all socialists too, in the loose sense of them wanting a large federal government to solve all our problems.

    I'd vote Democratic, for a guy like Bill Clinton who said "the era of big government is over." I'd vote Republican, for a guy like Reagan who said "government is the problem."
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    More like a Marxist????

    Read article below

    Barack Obama shrugs off charges of socialism, but noted in his own memoir that he carefully chose Marxist professors as friends in college.

    FOXNews.com

    Tuesday, 2008-28-302

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    Barack Obama laughs off charges of socialism. Joe Biden scoffs at references to Marxism. Both men shrug off accusations of liberalism.

    But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

    Obama's affinity for Marxists began when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.

    "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

    Obama's interest in leftist politics continued after he transferred to Columbia University in New York. He lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called "the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union."

    After graduating from Columbia in 1983, Obama spent a year working for a consulting firm and then went to work for what he described as "a Ralph Nader offshoot" in Harlem.

    "In search of some inspiration, I went to hear Kwame Toure, formerly Stokely Carmichael of Black Panther fame, speak at Columbia," Obama wrote in "Dreams," which he published in 1995. "At the entrance to the auditorium, two women, one black, one Asian, were selling Marxist literature."

    Obama supporters point out that plenty of Americans flirt with radical ideologies in college, only to join the political mainstream later in life. But Obama, who made a point of noting how "carefully" he chose his friends in college, also chose to launch his political career in the Chicago living room of Ayers, a domestic terrorist who in 2002 proclaimed: "I am a Marxist."

    Also present at that meeting was Ayers' wife, fellow terrorist Bernardine Dohrn, who once gave a speech extolling socialism, communism and "Marxism-Leninism."

    Obama has been widely criticized for choosing the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, an anti-American firebrand, as his pastor. Wright is a purveyor of black liberation theology, which analysts say is based in part on Marxist ideas.

    Few political observers go so far as to accuse Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, of being a Marxist. But Republican John McCain has been accusing Obama of espousing socialism ever since the Democrat told an Ohio plumber named Joe earlier this month that he wanted to "spread the wealth around."

    Obama's running mate, Biden, recently contradicted his boss, saying: "He is not spreading the wealth around." The remark came as Biden was answering a question from a TV anchor who asked: "How is Senator Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?"

    "Are you joking? Is this a joke? Or is that a real question?" an incredulous Biden shot back. "It's a ridiculous comparison."

    But the debate intensified Monday with the surfacing of a 2001 radio interview in which Obama lamented the Supreme Court's inability to enact "redistribution of wealth" -- a key tenet of socialism. On Tuesday, McCain said Obama aspires to become "Redistributionist-in-Chief."

    Obama has managed to cultivate the image of a political moderate in spite of his consistently liberal voting record. In 2006, he published a second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope," that leaves little doubt about his adherence to the left.

    "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact," Obama wrote in "Audacity." "Much of what I absorbed from the sixties was filtered through my mother, who to the end of her life would proudly proclaim herself an unreconstructed liberal."

    National Journal magazine ranked Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. The publication is far from conservative, employing such journalists as Linda Douglass, who resigned in May to become Obama's traveling press secretary.

    Bill Sammon is the Washington deputy managing editor for FOX News Channel.

     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]Is Barack Obama really a socialist?

    No, but Sarah Palin is.

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/11/03/081103taco_talk_hertzberg[/Quote]

    Ensuring that publicly owned, state mineral rights are sold to companies at a fair value which provides a return to the State/public is hardly socialistic. Sharing the earned wealth/income of successful people to others is socialistic, and continues the fate of the underclass.



     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

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    Ensuring that publicly owned, state mineral rights are sold to companies at a fair value which provides a return to the State/public is hardly socialistic. Sharing the earned wealth/income of successful people to others is socialistic, and continues the fate of the underclass.



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    But if we tax the Oil companies they won't create jobs!!!!
    Err..or something.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

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    Ensuring that publicly owned, state mineral rights are sold to companies at a fair value which provides a return to the State/public is hardly socialistic. Sharing the earned wealth/income of successful people to others is socialistic, and continues the fate of the underclass.





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    Actually, that's the oldest and most corrupt form of socialism. A real anti-socialist would decry erosion of private property as where it all went wrong.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    Update. 9.5 out of 10 domestic and foreign terrorists, enemies of our country and radicals prefer Obama over McCain.

    It just went up over night from 9 out of 10.

     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    No more so than McCain, with his plan for the government to take over people's mortgages, that is pure Socialism... that's right run for cover, the sky is going to fall, SOCiALISM... BOO!
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    That funny, because Al Queda has come out public in support of McCain.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    Obama is an enemy of the Constitution a Racist and a Socialist.

    Id rather 28 more years of Bush than 1 hour of Obama

     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]
    Update. 9.5 out of 10 domestic and foreign terrorists, enemies of our country and radicals prefer Obama over McCain.

    It just went up over night from 9 out of 10.
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    Tell me, where did they get the list that separates out this demgraphic?

     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]I studied Marx in college too. Even got a masters in 19th century german philosophy so I could pursue the evolution of Marx to Nietzsche. Now I trade bonds. Big whoop. Anyone who has studied economics knows Marx well. Anyone who wants to be President should know a thing or two about economics. Economics is everything and Marx is as big an historical economist as there is.

    People who think economics and education are unamerican are best served mowing my lawn. That is their greatest utility.[/Quote]

    Marx is even more influential in the study of history. His economic theories projected out to the future failed miserably, but his interpretation of the past as economic forces in conflict is still a viable school of historical thought. If you don't know Marx (no requirement that you use him) you have no claim to being educated.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    And if you do know Marx than you know that Obama is no Marxist. You don't get a revolutionary destruction of the capitalist system by having increased health care and a graduated tax code. Not even close.
     
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    Is Barack Obama Really a Socialist?

    [Quote]
    Update. 9.5 out of 10 domestic and foreign terrorists, enemies of our country and radicals prefer Obama over McCain.

    It just went up over night from 9 out of 10.
    [/Quote]

    I think there's something wrong with your math. Why would republicans favor Obama 9:1?

     
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