If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.
By making the rules the same for everyone?
Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:18 AM EST
- StalkingButler
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:28 AM EST
- StalkingButler
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These laws, like every other law, are not invoked unless someone violates the voting rights of a citizen of the USA
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:30 AM EST
- Sistersledge
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skeeter are you saying the only way to find out if racism exist in the Good Old U.S. of A. is to ask tough questions .......... i.e. "Mr Romney because your father was born in Mexico can we see birth certificate ?" I would like to know why that question was never asked of Mr 47% but it was constantly thrown in the face of Obama ? Is it because Obama doesn't look like one of us but one of ........ ?
BTW explain your question Mr Wizard .... are you saying that you are a racist ?
The question is, does racism exist in respect to voting inthese areas. If it does, people ought to be frogg-marched to jail.But, insterad, you make it an emotional issue, as if everyone doesn't want honest voting, every legitimate voter getting to vote once per election, not denied for any reason, not allowedto vote multiple times, like some Obama voters.
If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.
Do you think this country will only be left with one party (Dems) or do you think another will emerge when, per your belief, the GOP becomes extinct?
What is happening now is that the political pendulum is swinging to the left after 30 years of being on the right.BTW by me saying that the GOP will become extinct is meant to tweek the noses of the more unreasonable righties on this threa
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:36 AM EST
- Sistersledge
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In response to StalkingButler's comment:
If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.By making the rules the same for everyone?
I think the rules for voting is the same for all Americans but the the rules in the countingof a person's vote isn't the same for everyone . -
Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:36 AM EST
- GreginMeffa
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These laws, like every other law, are not invoked unless someone violates the voting rights of a citizen of the USA.
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Uhm, no. The 9 states subject to section 5 cannot change voting rules with asking the Fed for permission first. Its a receivership.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 10:37 AM EST
- Sistersledge
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skeeter are you saying the only way to find out if racism exist in the Good Old U.S. of A. is to ask tough questions .......... i.e. "Mr Romney because your father was born in Mexico can we see birth certificate ?" I would like to know why that question was never asked of Mr 47% but it was constantly thrown in the face of Obama ? Is it because Obama doesn't look like one of us but one of ........ ?
BTW explain your question Mr Wizard .... are you saying that you are a racist ?
The question is, does racism exist in respect to voting inthese areas. If it does, people ought to be frogg-marched to jail.But, insterad, you make it an emotional issue, as if everyone doesn't want honest voting, every legitimate voter getting to vote once per election, not denied for any reason, not allowedto vote multiple times, like some Obama voters.
If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.
Do you think this country will only be left with one party (Dems) or do you think another will emerge when, per your belief, the GOP becomes extinct?
What is happening now is that the political pendulum is swinging to the left after 30 years of being on the right.BTW by me saying that the GOP will become extinct is meant to tweek the noses of the more unreasonable righties on this threa
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 11:32 AM EST
- Reubenhop
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In response to GreginMeffa's comment:
These laws, like every other law, are not invoked unless someone violates the voting rights of a citizen of the USA.
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Uhm, no. The 9 states subject to section 5 cannot change voting rules with asking the Fed for permission first. Its a receivership.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 11:33 AM EST
- MattyScornD
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I can't tell from dishonorable...
...but from what I've heard and seen, he is definitely a testy, self-righteous a##hole.
Nothing odd about that in Washington....
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 11:34 AM EST
- StalkingButler
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I think the rules for voting is the same for all Americans but the the rules in the countingof a person's vote isn't the same for everyone .These rules are not the same Sister. Some states must, by federal law, have any changed to their voting laws be reviewd by a federal court. Not ALL states, SOME states.
Your're right about the counting of votes though. This is why you had the progressive, Soros funded "Secretary of State" project. The Al Franken election is a case in point, they just kept finding new bags of ballots until Franken won. Later we found out that over a thousand felons voted in an election that was won by less than 400 votes.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 12:40 PM EST
- Sistersledge
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In response to StalkingButler's comment:
I think the rules for voting is the same for all Americans but the the rules in the countingof a person's vote isn't the same for everyone .These rules are not the same Sister. Some states must, by federal law, have any changed to their voting laws be reviewd by a federal court. Not ALL states, SOME states.
Your're right about the counting of votes though. This is why you had the progressive, Soros funded "Secretary of State" project. The Al Franken election is a case in point, they just kept finding new bags of ballots until Franken won. Later we found out that over a thousand felons voted in an election that was won by less than 400 votes.
Stalking Butler I thought they changed the name of Hail to the Chief to Hail to the Thief in November of double ott ?BTW I thought The Taggster own voting machines that were used in 5 states in the last election ?
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 12:48 PM EST
- StalkingButler
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BTW I thought The Taggster own voting machines that were used in 5 states in the last election ?And yet he lost anyway. I wonder who was counting?
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 12:58 PM EST
- skeeter20
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Or is the question, does it exist in this generation's form, anywhere? I don't have a problem with the Supreme Court of all the land taking a decision that applies to all the land -- Massachusetts included. But if the Chief Justice, Justice Scalia and skeeter20@14,000 are still asking the question, implying a right answer, it can't be time for roll back, let alone repeal.
Asking WHAT question?You assume facts not in evidence.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 12:59 PM EST
- skeeter20
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In response to Sistersledge's comment:
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If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.
By making the rules the same for everyone?
I think the rules for voting is the same for all Americans but the the rules in the countingof a person's vote isn't the same for everyone .
Backwards. You got it backwards.Hence, the legislation in question.
States make the rules about how voting goes down. In the case of 9 states, apparently, the Feds have oversight.
All votes count the same, i.e. one per voter.
What is up for discussion is whether the conditions that caused the federal oversight are still in play.
That Scalia is questioning this is what has the left screaming racist.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:01 PM EST
- GreginMeffa
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In response to StalkingButler's comment:
BTW I thought The Taggster own voting machines that were used in 5 states in the last election ?And yet he lost anyway. I wonder who was counting?
Logic is a tweeting bird in a tree. It is a bunch of pretty flowers, that smell BAD" - Spock - "I Mudd"Yes, I'm a Trek geek, it just seemed appropriate
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:02 PM EST
- Sistersledge
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In response to StalkingButler's comment:
BTW I thought The Taggster own voting machines that were used in 5 states in the last election ?And yet he lost anyway. I wonder who was counting?
The better man won . BTW what is your opinion on doing away with the Electoral College and just having a National Popular Vote ? I myself like the popular vote ... I think that is true democracy . -
Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:04 PM EST
- Sistersledge
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In response to skeeter20's comment:
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If the soon to be extinct GOP can't win an election they want to put their thumbs on the scales and devalve the vote of the Democrats.
By making the rules the same for everyone?
I think the rules for voting is the same for all Americans but the the rules in the countingof a person's vote isn't the same for everyone .
Backwards. You got it backwards.Hence, the legislation in question.
States make the rules about how voting goes down. In the case of 9 states, apparently, the Feds have oversight.
All votes count the same, i.e. one per voter.
What is up for discussion is whether the conditions that caused the federal oversight are still in plal.
That Scalia is questioning this is what has the left screaming racist.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:19 PM EST
- StalkingButler
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The better man won.
Better at what? Actually, the better machine won.
BTW what is your opinion on doing away with the Electoral College and just having a National Popular Vote ? I myself like the popular vote ... I think that is true democracy .
This is a very bad idea. There's some very good reasons, set forth by some brilliant men, why we are a democratic republic and not a democracy. -
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:33 PM EST
- Reubenhop
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In response to NO MO O's comment:
Yup racism is rampant in the US.... only AFTER Obama takes office..
Seems to me Obama is the fear mongering racist.
Racism ramped up after Obama's election precisely because a Black man was in the White House.
Prejudiced people see it the opposite way.
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Re: Is Justice Scalia a dishonorable person ?
posted at 3/4/2013 1:58 PM EST
- StalkingButler
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Racism ramped up after Obama's election precisely because a Black man was in the White House.That's why a black man was elected to the office in the land. Twice. We are SOOOOO racist.