Is moderation a fools game?

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    Is moderation a fools game?

    If I picked up one thing this election cycle. It is re-affirmation that appearing to be moderate is a loser politically.  Giving in to half of the liberal demands only does two things:  Makes you a co-consipirator to the degenration ofthe country (conservatives hate you), and makes you unelectable (liberals hate you for the items where you "held the line").

    Look at Brown, go back one election and look at McCain, and look at Romney.  To the extent Romney had any issues, they were largely moderate:  our health care plan is better, our immigration plan is better, and so on.  All moderate positons,  always failing.  Romney had NO conservative postions, period. Neither did Obama.  That's the difference.

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    Re: Is moderation a fools game?

    Romney had no positions other than illegals self deporting. 

    But the reason Romney and Brown lost was because the National Republican party doesn't reflect views of enough of the American public.  A vote for Brown was seen as a vote for McConnell and that was not something this state could stomach.  Plus, there was no way Brown was going to beat Warren with the backing of Patrick, Menino, and Obama.  The 4 pooled their resources together to get the vote out and it worked.

    Republicans aren't moderate.  That's their problem.  They are too dogmatic and are too afraid of being labeled RINOs to compromise and actually govern.

     
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    Re: Is moderation a fools game?

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    Romney had no positions other than illegals self deporting. 

    But the reason Romney and Brown lost was because the National Republican party doesn't reflect views of enough of the American public.  A vote for Brown was seen as a vote for McConnell and that was not something this state could stomach.  Plus, there was no way Brown was going to beat Warren with the backing of Patrick, Menino, and Obama.  The 4 pooled their resources together to get the vote out and it worked.

    Republicans aren't moderate.  That's their problem.  They are too dogmatic and are too afraid of being labeled RINOs to compromise and actually govern.

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    Sure.  Because...

    The American people are not moderates.  they are liberal or conservative.  Moderation is a fiction.

    Do I have a convert?

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    Is moderation a fools game?

     


    Politics should not be a game. Perhaps that explains your statements.

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    You are an idiot.  Perhaps that explains YOUR statements.

     
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    Re: Is moderation a fools game?

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    Sure.  Because...

    The American people are not moderates.  they are liberal or conservative.  Moderation is a fiction.

    Do I have a convert?

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    The history of America has been one of moderation: of two sides coming together to reach common cause.  It started with the Constitution.  A good third of the people in the country are independents and embrace such an idea.  You need to win that middle to get national office.  The G.O.P. needs to learn that lesson better.

     
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    Re: Is moderation a fools game?

    No...moderation is the mainstream...it's the extremism that is a fools game. For the GOP particularly..it's going to continue to be a fool's game. Consider that with today's extremist GOP..even Ronald Reagan would not get through a primary.

    The GOP will have to practice some tough love. Right now..they are like the parent who gives in to the two year old having a temper tantrum. Eventually..they will figure out that strategy doesn't work.

     
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    Re: Is moderation a fools game?

    In response to skeeter20's comment:
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    If I picked up one thing this election cycle. It is re-affirmation that appearing to be moderate is a loser politically.  Giving in to half of the liberal demands only does two things:  Makes you a co-consipirator to the degenration ofthe country (conservatives hate you), and makes you unelectable (liberals hate you for the items where you "held the line").

    Look at Brown, go back one election and look at McCain, and look at Romney.  To the extent Romney had any issues, they were largely moderate:  our health care plan is better, our immigration plan is better, and so on.  All moderate positons,  always failing.  Romney had NO conservative postions, period. Neither did Obama.  That's the difference.

    Opinions?

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    Conservative social policy issues are appealing to a smaller and smaller constituency.

    Romney lost because he lost the gender vote; message from women get out of their business and because of a too strident and unrealistic immigration position that lost 70% of the fastest growing segment of the population.

    As per my thread the GOP needs to evolve or it will become completely irrelevant and die. Mass and California are unique places but the GOP could be very competitive if it abandoned its conservative socila positions and got back to business and the American Dream.

     
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