Re: Is the new Birth Control mandate illegal and Unconstitutional??
posted at 2/16/2012 8:05 AM EST
In Response to Re: Is the new Birth Control mandate illegal and Unconstitutional??
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is the new Birth Control mandate illegal and Unconstitutional?? : How do you figure that Skeeter? People work for reasons other than the healthcare coverage offered by employers..in fact..if you don't work at all and have no income..then you still have health insurance..it's just that the government provides it. People work because you need to have an income to have any kind of quality of life. Does it surprise you to know that we are the only industrialized country in the world who has this employer based model? Does it also surprise you that of all the industrialized countries in the world that we rank something like 26th or 27th in health care? That tells me the current model is just not working. Also..how is Obama dividing the country over the contraception issue? Seems it's more like the right wingnut males making an issue out of it. Even the Catholic church can't agree on it..lol.
Posted by miscricket[/QUOTE]
That health care ranking is bogus. I have looked into it. Basically, there are a handful of non-medial issues which skew the data, like a heavy weighting towards government provided medical care, ie. you can't be considered to be delivering quality care unless it is is "fair", where fair simply means controlled by the government. Berwick established these measurements throughout Europe, hardly a middle of the road guy, seeing he has made his living promoting socialized medicine.
You are misrepresenting Obama care. Everyone ends up in the government pool i.e. the government health plan after 5 or 7 years. It is in the bill.
Consider the financial aspect as well. Your company pays @$12,000 to provide you insurance, untaxed compensation. The government fine for not providing health insurance is $8,000. How long before companies begin to see that paying the fine is more cost effective than providing the insurance?
Now, take it one step further. When the company drops the insurance, you have lost $12,000 of compensation, paid in health insurance. You now need to go buy this health care from the government, with taxed dollars. Keeping the math simple, lets say you need to earn $12,000 to pay the government $8,000 for insurance. You personal compensation package just had a negative swing of $24,000, and best case, you have the same insurance.
This is a killer to the middle class that Obama so holds dearly(sic).
Obama is clearly dividing the country over contraception, the "new abortion". The mandate serves no actual purpose. Let me ask you this:
Is contraception legal? Yes
Is it widely available? Yes. Every pharmacy, every school, every Planned parenthood and like organization.
Is contraception cheap? Yes. $4 per month at Walmart.
So tell me. With these facts, what purpose does this contraception mandate serve, other than to tick off the catholic church, encroach on freedom of choice and religion, and whip up the base?