It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation

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    It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation

    This will get the secular moonbats howling:
    Sarah Palin: " it is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation.”
     
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    The mall was closed on Easter.  We are a Christian nation.
     
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    If Sarah is dumb, the liberals are dumber.
     
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    If Sarah is dumb and liberals are dumber then you are the dumbest for posting a thread about what some dummy said to agitate those you claim are dumber than she.
     
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    It may be dumb to agitate liberals, but it is fun.
     
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    This thread is beyond stupidity. 

     
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    The mall was closed on Easter. where?
    Posted by GreginMeffa
    ...probably in the land of Pat Robertson, Falwell, etc, aka American taliban-land. Just because people think it's a Christian nation doesn't mean they (the christians) get to tell everyone how to live their lives, which is exactly what they do and why people have such problems with the thumpers. 
     
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    What "boggles" Mrs. Palin's mind seems to know no bounds...much like that alaskan wilderness she's so fond of yet regretfully doesn't spend much time in anymore....

    But whether we are a "christian nation" or not is irrelevant.  The Founders were predominantly deists and deemed that all denominations could be included within America's borders.  This makes neither the state nor religion perfect (or preferred), but there's little doubt that the worst tendencies of both government and religion have been (and will be) rescued by the secularization of our society.

    Over 15% of Americans identify as atheist/non-believers, and yet how many openly atheistic representatives are in Congress...??

    America has no such "preferred nation" status with God, and any Christian who thinks so has no business being either.

    To quote Jesus himself: "God is not an Israelite."


     

     
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    The nation was not founded on Christian principles.  It was founded on Enlightenment principles pertaining to natural rights and the ability of humans to rationally decide their own fate. It was not founded on the theory of the Divine Right of Kings.  Palin probably missed that part of her history class.  Bob too apparently.
     
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    Reuben vs Jefferson, Round One:

    "God who gave us life gave us liberty.  And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?  That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?  Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever
    Thomas "Enlightenment Principles" Jefferson
     
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    "The Christian religion is above all the Religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and Humanity."--John Adams 
     
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    And Santa was the first president.

    Our form of government is descended from Hammurabi, ((died 1750 bc), the sixth king of the first dynasty of Babylonia, reigned 1792–1750 bc. He extended the Babylonian empire and instituted one of the earliest known collections of laws.)and the Magna Carta (a charter of liberty and political rights obtained from King John of England by his rebellious barons at Runnymede in 1215, which came to be seen as the seminal document of English constitutional practice.)

    Our First Amendment makes it quite clear, separation of church and state, etc.. We are not, were not, and will not be a Theocracy. That's Taliban/Iran/Saudi style.

    What's with all the Christian Mullahs and the sudden blooming of the bumper crop Constitutional scholars?

    Bob, you and I both know our nation's religion is Sports, and it's sects, Football, Baseball, Basketball and Hockey, and all the associated gods. 


     



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    This will get the secular moonbats howling: Sarah Palin: " it is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation.” This is somehow considered controversial, though 65% of Americans say so...even those not specifically Christian, because it is a general statement of fact, in both our heritage and our current population.... The liberal media immediately goes to the "First Amendment no establishment of religion" template..how stupid is that? Did anyone suggest a law to compel church attendance? Palin never said anything about an “official” religion; as a practical matter the nation is Christian since it was founded on Christian principles espoused by the majority of the Founding Fathers, nearly all current elected officials pay homage to Christianity no matter their level of faith,  and the vast majority of Americans who are religious adhere to a Christian faith. In a related story, a Virginia-based Red Sox fan plans a lawsuit over a public statement that Virginia is "Orioles country"...How dare a general statement of fact be stated! This is discriminatory and hurtful to Red Sox Nation followers! Virginia is diverse, Sox fans, Yankees fans are everywhere now.. Want to contribute to my lawsuit fund? Will the ACLU help me?
    Posted by BobinVa

     
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    This thread is beyond stupidity. 
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    I agree.  Which "Christians" was she talking about?  The ones who actually follow Christ's teachings about being non-judgemental?  or the ones who take the Christ out of Christianity and quote only the Old Testament BS that encourages bigotry?
     
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    "In God we Trust."

     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : Unless someone can clue us in with some facts otherwise I believe you are correct on that. That doesn't mean that the founders were not religious, just that they created a government based on freedom to practice the religion of your choice without interference from some state sanctioned religion. Having natural rights and giving us the ability to decide our own fate somehow gets lost in modern day liberalism. We have to hear how healthcare is a human right. That is BS. I'll stop there before I get into death panels. :)
    Posted by Newtster

    If someone try to harm you, you have the right to defend yourself. Therefore, if you sick, you have the right to get better. It's not the same, but close enough.

    Also, about Death Panels, every reputable website that I went to said that there is no such things as Death Panel.

     
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    this post actually isn't nearly as dumb as reading some of the liberal posts regarding global warming.Keep the faith Bob.Together we can...elect a new President in 935 days!!!
     
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    Reuben vs Jefferson, Round One: "God who gave us life gave us liberty.  And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?  That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?  Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever Thomas "Enlightenment Principles" Jefferson
    Posted by BobinVa


    I suggest you read John Locke and Thomas Hobbes the English philosophers who developed the theory of natural rights and the social contract, ideas readily adopted by Jefferson in the Declaration.  God gets scant attention in either philosophy and Christ hardly a mention.  People made their choice to create their government through a rational desire to protect themselves from each other.  These ideas are not part of the Bible which was written when there were all powerful monarchies and little else. We are the creators of our destinies and the interventionist God of the Bible is not a factor (hence the Deist description of the Founders). The Bible is not a political text and it was not a resource for creating the Constitution that has guided us for the last couple of centuries.  And there is certainly nothing in the Constitution to establish us as a "Christian Nation".  Indeed, quite the reverse, religious diversity was embraced in the First Amendment: a rational decision given all the religious conflicts that have taken place in the name of religion over the years, conflicts the Founders well understood and sought to avoid.

    And as you should know the liberal Jefferson was accused repeatedly of being an atheist by the conservatives of his time.   Despite some statements to the contrary, many considered him a little too "enlightened" for his own good.  After all he rewrote the New Testament as the "Philosophy of Jesus" by taking out all the miracles and mythology that offended his rational intellect.   I have a feeling you would not have liked him much if you lived in those times.
     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : Why then do you want to dumb it down?   What do you think you are adding to the conversation?
    Posted by Charles2008


    They are trying to turn Christianity into another Right vs Left confrontation.  Don't feed into it.  It's stupid and very antiChrist.
     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : ... they created a government based on freedom to practice the religion of your choice without interference from some state sanctioned religion. Having natural rights and giving us the ability to decide our own fate somehow gets lost in modern day liberalism. We have to hear how healthcare is a human right. That is BS. I'll stop there before I get into death panels. :)
    Posted by Newtster


    ...which by necessity includes the de facto "state religion" of christianity interfering with other religions like Islam, Buddhism, Hindu, etc.

    "...to decide our own fate..."  Yeah, like the Right to Die (Schiavo) or the Right to Serve Our Country or a minority's Right to Vote...?? 

    Be careful in ascribing the imposition on civil liberties to exclusively one party...that's a fool's argument lost before it's even fought.
     
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    No worries.  The liberals are seeing to it that we become an Islamic country in short order.  Did you read that Franklin Graham was booted out of the Pentagon Prayer day?
     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : They are trying to turn Christianity into another Right vs Left confrontation.  Don't feed into it.  It's stupid and very antiChrist.
    Posted by wraughn


    Right.  Becasue everyone can see by those discussing here that the progressive socialists are obviously going to church every week.
     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : Right.  Becasue everyone can see by those discussing here that the progressive socialists are obviously going to church every week.
    Posted by skeeter20


    I'd call America a Jewish nation since even the Christians here ignore Christ and flaunt the judgementalism of the Old Testament.  Who would want to consider a country "Christian" anyway?  That's like saying "My god is better than yours."  Isn't that polytheism?  Palin's not only a political idiot, but a spiritual one too.
     
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    Sarah Palin is a jackazz.

    I can not believe some of you still think she is a viable political threat and follow her every word.

    Amazing. just amazing. Im glad America is filled with people who can think for themselves. It's why Obama is president. 
     
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    In Response to Re: It is mindboggling to suggest that America is not a Christian nation : Skeeter, It is none of your business nor anyone else whether anybody is going to church, how often, or to which church.   This is exactly what this country was created to prevent: people like you using YOUR own definition of faith to determine other people's worth to the country.  You will find your views more at home with the mullah in Iran.  Same ideology, just a different religion.   But, you are probably too self-absorbed to see it!
    Posted by Charles2008


    Man o man, take yourself to seriously lately?  Can't you tell I was poking fun?

    I may disagree with you, but I am not the one you should fear.  The mullah you reference, he wants to kill you.
     

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