Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

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    Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    Dimwits are Dartmouth College refuse to allow a student with a well-documented case of being a stalking victim to carry a gun for self-protection.


    They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered rather than get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns. If they took the time to understand the people and the situation, perhaps they could come to their senses. But no, for these idiots and others like them, it is not about the people, it is about the gun. And the gun violence continues. Oh, is that too much "nuance" for the hypocrites that claim conservatives are all black and white and too stupid to understand "nuance"? Now it is the pointy-headed liberals that are black and white so I guess the self proclaimed smartest people in the world have determined black and white thinking is OK.


    Dartmouth College - a safe haven for sickos who want to attack students without fear of opposition.


    And the pointy heads accuse Republicans of a "War on Women"????


    Aholes.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/dartmouth-ivy-league-student-drop-out-gun-policy-stalker-2014-8

     
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    YES, BUT DO THEY PROVIDE THEIR FEMALE STUDENTS FREE BIRTH CONTROL????????

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    Think for yourself, question authority.

     
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    This article kinda makes a bigger point about progressives and gun control.  It is not that they don't want to have a gun, they don't want YOU to have a gun.

    progressives really don't understand this concept of individual rights at all.

     
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    Is Dartmouth a private or public college?

     
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    This article kinda makes a bigger point about progressives and gun control.  It is not that they don't want to have a gun, they don't want YOU to have a gun.

    progressives really don't understand this concept of individual rights at all.

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    Here is a quote from some gun control nut on the situation:

    Others say they support Dartmouth’s no-guns policy.

    “What we don’t want to see is a convicted stalker have the ability to arm themselves like Rambo,” said Ladd Everett, director of communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

    “On one hand, I understand her fears, but I don’t believe that any student should have a gun. Data shows that those who own a gun for protection, that they [the guns] are more likely to be used on themselves or a loved one.

    “These [schools] are not places where you want everyone armed to the teeth.”

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    Data shows....... 

    Proves your point. There is no respect for this student as an individual, her mental health, her ability to carry the gun responsibly, her competence in using the gun. This individual Tracy Woolworth is just dumped into a collectivist data pool which ignores the reality of her situation and allows gun control nuts to label her as someone that  might kill herself or a loved one.

    This is the mode of progressive - collectivism. You are spot on with your comment.  

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

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    To be fair...

    "Bennett is currently being held in San Diego and is accused of violating his restraining order, felony stalking and other crimes"

    Being "held" and being "in jail" are two completely different things. Being "held" means he could post bail and be out and about awaiting trial. Being "in jail" means he's locked up and not getting out for a while.

    That being said, Dartmouth is a private entity which has rules. You don't like those rules either go somewhere else OR....how's the saying go..."better to ask forgiveness than permission"...get a freaking gun and keep it secret. That way if this nutbag does show up again with duct tape, a slip noose, knives, and other items, she can blow him away and take her chances with the law. At least she'll be alive.

     

     

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

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    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.

     
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    So a private institution that does not wish to allow guns on campus refuses to start making exceptions whenever someone claims they're scared - (Interesting parallel to the "immigration crisis" and asylum requests there) - and all persons Hansori deems on the left are deserving of the following slurs, insults, and curses:


     


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    Dimwits


    They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered


     irrational fear 


    hatred


     idiots 


    hypocrites 


    stupid


    sickos who want to attack students without fear of opposition.


    pointy heads


    [unprintables]





     


    And this apparently causes SB to attempt to spell out something about birth control with a raspberry.....


    "YES, BUT DO THEY PROVIDE THEIR


    FEMALE STUDENTS FREE BIRTH CONTROL????????"


     


     


     


     


     


     


    Keeping it classy.


     


     

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

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    That is irrelevant.

    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

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    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.

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    But it's the private colleges call as to what they allow on campus. Did you go to college? Alcohol has this ability to help kids do really, really dumb things. Now let's give them all guns. That is a recipe for disaster. Does your company allow people to carry guns on them in the office?

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.

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    Who are you to tell a private corporation how to run their business?

    How very socialist of you comrade.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    That is irrelevant.

    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

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    She has no right to carry a gun on the campus of the private entity that doesn't allow guns. 

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

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    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants.






    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.

     
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    In response to high-road's comment:


    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.
    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?


    That is irrelevant.


    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.



    So my suggestion to allow this student protection ... while still abiding by the rules of the private school she attends ... is 'irrelevent' ... but your caterwauling about how every private entity must make exceptions to the rules of their own self-governance just because you say so is somehow 'relevent'?



    Hilarious!!!


    If you admit it's up to Dartmouth to decide how they want to run their campus then why all the sturm und drang?


    All you wingnuts keep wanting your own exceptions to the rules ... as if they shouldn't apply to you because your 'special'.


    You want private entities to control their own business IF-AND-ONLY-IF it agrees with your ideology.


    If she wants to stay at Dartmouth then she has to abide by the rules ... end of story.

     
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    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

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    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants.

     

     

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    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.

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    It's kinda funny seeing progressives trumpeting the rights of private businesses. But, you are also correct.

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

     

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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.
    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?


    That is irrelevant.


    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

     

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    So my suggestion to allow this student protection ... while still abiding by the rules of the private school she attends ... is 'irrelevent' ... but your caterwauling about how every private entity must make exceptions to the rules of their own self-governance just because you say so is somehow 'relevent'?

     



    Hilarious!!!

     

    If you admit it's up to Dartmouth to decide how they want to run their campus then why all the sturm und drang?

     

    All you wingnuts keep wanting your own exceptions to the rules ... as if they shouldn't apply to you because your 'special'.

     

    You want private entities to control their own business IF-AND-ONLY-IF it agrees with your ideology.

     

    If she wants to stay at Dartmouth then she has to abide by the rules ... end of story.

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    Another latter day convert to the concept of rights of the corporation.

     
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    In response to high-road's comment:
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:
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    In response to high-road's comment:
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.

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    Who are you to tell a private corporation how to run their business?

    How very socialist of you comrade.

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    How did I do that, exactly?

    yah, another reeeeeeeaaaaaaaach by a progressive.

    my issue is not Dartmouth, but the progressives that think this is proper.  At the end of the day, Dartmouth can do what they want, but it might be unpatriotic.  Just want Dartmouth to make sure that their actions are being judged by Obama and the Democrats.

     
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    [] my issue is not Dartmouth, but the progressives that think this is proper. []


     


    So....you're a progressive now?


     


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    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.


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    It's kinda funny seeing progressives trumpeting the rights of private businesses. But, you are also correct.





     
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    my issue is not Dartmouth, but the progressives that think this is proper.  At the end of the day, Dartmouth can do what they want, but it might be unpatriotic.  Just want Dartmouth to make sure that their actions are being judged by Obama and the Democrats.

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    Wow ... just ... Wow.

    So let me get this straight ...

    You agree that this private school has every right, under the Constitution, to set it's own policies ... but you think it's 'un-patriotic' to do so.

    How the heck does that work?

    That illogic is sooo bass ackwards as to be ridiculous.

    Newsflash ... calling out someone as being 'un-patriotic' for exercising their constitutional rights is about as unpatriotic as it gets ... not to mention just plain stoopid.

     
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    I guess it's like how he won't admit whether or not he has a gun, but says its irresponsible not to carry a gun even though carrying a gun is not about being scared.

     

     

    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/congratulations-americans-your-capital-is-not-a-constitution-free-zone-dc-handgun-ban-overturned/80/7393414?page=8

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    That is irrelevant.

    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

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    She has no right to carry a gun on the campus of the private entity that doesn't allow guns. 

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    Yes, I said that. 

    This is more about how pointy-headed progressives make stupid decisions based on collectivist bullbleep rather than on rational thought and concerns about the individual.

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:


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    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants.


     


     






     


     


    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.


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    I said that it was up to Dartmouth.


    You can ignore the issue at hand and spew nonsense about rants. That is easier than actually thinking about the situation and whether or not Dartmouth is acting out of irrational fear and ideology instead of the best interests of a student at their institution.


    And you would never  just throw up some story about a Republican or conservative dog catcher somewhere that did something stupid just so you could rant about them, would you? Seems to happen pretty regularly.


    Isn't that what this place is for???


     


     



     


     

     
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    You can ignore the issue at hand and spew nonsense about rants. That is easier than actually thinking about the situation and whether or not Dartmouth is acting out of irrational fear and ideology instead of the best interests of a student at their institution.

    So you consider this part of "thinking" about a question - a question fabricated for purposes of what you're really doing?


    Dimwits


    They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered


    irrational fear


    hatred


    idiots


    hypocrites


    stupid


    sickos who want to attack students without fear of opposition.


    pointy heads


    [unprintables]


     


     


    They have the policy in place in the interest of all students. They rightly consider the probability of a good student with a gun saving lives to be significantly lower than the probability of students, who are renowned for their abilities to become intoxicated, ending lives with guns.


    It's you who has the ideological problem. The ridiculous assumption that if everyone who needs a gun to feel safe because they're scared about the world has one, then there will actually be less gun violence rather than more.


    We have the most guns per capita and the most gun violence per capita. That is a fact, not a political opinion.


    Having a gun increases the chance that one will be a victim of gun violence. That is a fact, not a political opinion.


     


    Some have suggested that the latter fact is because of all the careless or stupid people with guns. And again, college students are notorious for experiments with intoxication. They are on the whole the least to be trusted with guns. But apparently, your ideology demands that common sense be ignored because "AMERICA, #$*(& YEAH!"


    You didn't analyze anything. You just posted another anger-filled rant and insult fest about libruls.

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    And you would never  just throw up some story about a Republican or conservative dog catcher somewhere that did something stupid just so you could rant about them, would you? Seems to happen pretty regularly


    Do you have a quote and a link to me posting something about one politician or political activist and using them to post a screed against all persons of their party containing nine pointless insults and a curse?



    Seems you're mischaracterizing my posts in order to deflect from the problems with yours....

     

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