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Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

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    Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    Dimwits are Dartmouth College refuse to allow a student with a well-documented case of being a stalking victim to carry a gun for self-protection.


    They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered rather than get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns. If they took the time to understand the people and the situation, perhaps they could come to their senses. But no, for these idiots and others like them, it is not about the people, it is about the gun. And the gun violence continues. Oh, is that too much "nuance" for the hypocrites that claim conservatives are all black and white and too stupid to understand "nuance"? Now it is the pointy-headed liberals that are black and white so I guess the self proclaimed smartest people in the world have determined black and white thinking is OK.


    Dartmouth College - a safe haven for sickos who want to attack students without fear of opposition.


    And the pointy heads accuse Republicans of a "War on Women"????


    Aholes.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/dartmouth-ivy-league-student-drop-out-gun-policy-stalker-2014-8

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    YES, BUT DO THEY PROVIDE THEIR FEMALE STUDENTS FREE BIRTH CONTROL????????

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    Think for yourself, question authority.

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    This article kinda makes a bigger point about progressives and gun control.  It is not that they don't want to have a gun, they don't want YOU to have a gun.

    progressives really don't understand this concept of individual rights at all.

     
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    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    This article kinda makes a bigger point about progressives and gun control.  It is not that they don't want to have a gun, they don't want YOU to have a gun.

    progressives really don't understand this concept of individual rights at all.



    Here is a quote from some gun control nut on the situation:

    Others say they support Dartmouth’s no-guns policy.

    “What we don’t want to see is a convicted stalker have the ability to arm themselves like Rambo,” said Ladd Everett, director of communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

    “On one hand, I understand her fears, but I don’t believe that any student should have a gun. Data shows that those who own a gun for protection, that they [the guns] are more likely to be used on themselves or a loved one.

    “These [schools] are not places where you want everyone armed to the teeth.”

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    Data shows....... 

    Proves your point. There is no respect for this student as an individual, her mental health, her ability to carry the gun responsibly, her competence in using the gun. This individual Tracy Woolworth is just dumped into a collectivist data pool which ignores the reality of her situation and allows gun control nuts to label her as someone that  might kill herself or a loved one.

    This is the mode of progressive - collectivism. You are spot on with your comment.  

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     



    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     



    That is irrelevant.

    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     



    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.




    Who are you to tell a private corporation how to run their business?

    How very socialist of you comrade.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.
    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?


    That is irrelevant.


    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.



    So my suggestion to allow this student protection ... while still abiding by the rules of the private school she attends ... is 'irrelevent' ... but your caterwauling about how every private entity must make exceptions to the rules of their own self-governance just because you say so is somehow 'relevent'?



    Hilarious!!!


    If you admit it's up to Dartmouth to decide how they want to run their campus then why all the sturm und drang?


    All you wingnuts keep wanting your own exceptions to the rules ... as if they shouldn't apply to you because your 'special'.


    You want private entities to control their own business IF-AND-ONLY-IF it agrees with your ideology.


    If she wants to stay at Dartmouth then she has to abide by the rules ... end of story.

     
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    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

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    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants.

     

     




     

     

    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.



    It's kinda funny seeing progressives trumpeting the rights of private businesses. But, you are also correct.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.
    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?


    That is irrelevant.


    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.

     



    So my suggestion to allow this student protection ... while still abiding by the rules of the private school she attends ... is 'irrelevent' ... but your caterwauling about how every private entity must make exceptions to the rules of their own self-governance just because you say so is somehow 'relevent'?

     



    Hilarious!!!

     

    If you admit it's up to Dartmouth to decide how they want to run their campus then why all the sturm und drang?

     

    All you wingnuts keep wanting your own exceptions to the rules ... as if they shouldn't apply to you because your 'special'.

     

    You want private entities to control their own business IF-AND-ONLY-IF it agrees with your ideology.

     

    If she wants to stay at Dartmouth then she has to abide by the rules ... end of story.



    Another latter day convert to the concept of rights of the corporation.

     
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    In response to high-road's comment:

    In response to ronreganfan's comment:

    In response to high-road's comment:

    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     



    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.




    Who are you to tell a private corporation how to run their business?

    How very socialist of you comrade.



    How did I do that, exactly?

    yah, another reeeeeeeaaaaaaaach by a progressive.

    my issue is not Dartmouth, but the progressives that think this is proper.  At the end of the day, Dartmouth can do what they want, but it might be unpatriotic.  Just want Dartmouth to make sure that their actions are being judged by Obama and the Democrats.

     
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    my issue is not Dartmouth, but the progressives that think this is proper.  At the end of the day, Dartmouth can do what they want, but it might be unpatriotic.  Just want Dartmouth to make sure that their actions are being judged by Obama and the Democrats.



    Wow ... just ... Wow.

    So let me get this straight ...

    You agree that this private school has every right, under the Constitution, to set it's own policies ... but you think it's 'un-patriotic' to do so.

    How the heck does that work?

    That illogic is sooo bass ackwards as to be ridiculous.

    Newsflash ... calling out someone as being 'un-patriotic' for exercising their constitutional rights is about as unpatriotic as it gets ... not to mention just plain stoopid.

     
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    The 67 yr old stalker is 3000 miles away ... in jail.

    Has she asked to carry non-lethal defensive tools like pepper spray or mace?

     

     



    That is irrelevant.

    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants. She may feel that pepper spray is inadequate. That is for her to decide not others. Of course it is up to Dartmouth to decide if they would allow her to do that on their property.



    She has no right to carry a gun on the campus of the private entity that doesn't allow guns. 



    Yes, I said that. 

    This is more about how pointy-headed progressives make stupid decisions based on collectivist bullbleep rather than on rational thought and concerns about the individual.

     
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    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:


    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:


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    She has a right to carry a gun if she wants.


     


     






     


     


    The private institution has just as much right to bar people with guns as you have the right to bar libruls from entering your home. This thread was just a fabricated and transparent excuse to rant about libruls.






    I said that it was up to Dartmouth.


    You can ignore the issue at hand and spew nonsense about rants. That is easier than actually thinking about the situation and whether or not Dartmouth is acting out of irrational fear and ideology instead of the best interests of a student at their institution.


    And you would never  just throw up some story about a Republican or conservative dog catcher somewhere that did something stupid just so you could rant about them, would you? Seems to happen pretty regularly.


    Isn't that what this place is for???


     


     



     


     

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    "They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered rather than get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns."

    Your conclusion is illogical. Just because they don't want any student to carry a gun does not lead logically to them wanting any student to be harmed in any way. Perhaps it is regressives like you who want her to be attacked so you can say "I told ya so".

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    In response to devildavid's comment:

    "They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered rather than get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns."

    Your conclusion is illogical. Just because they don't want any student to carry a gun does not lead logically to them wanting any student to be harmed in any way. Perhaps it is regressives like you who want her to be attacked so you can say "I told ya so".



    devildavid,

    Your points are well taken.

    First, to make the generalization that some people have an "irrational fear and hatred of guns" already shows your hand. Having a fear of guns and hating guns may be the most rational stance a person can take. Getting over it may be the worst decision a person can make.

    Not wanting students to carry guns of course does not lead to wanting them to be harmed. At least if you are following a logical path. 

    It is no more logical than wanting them not to carry guns, be attacked so you can say, "I told you so".

    One has to be sick to want either of these scenarios to come true so their side can win political points.

     

     
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    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.




    So...Choice is okay if it involves a woman being able to carry a gun ( even though it may end the life of another human being).

    But......Choice is not okay when it comes to a woman being able to exercise her right to privacy when it comes to health care , pregnancy and abortion....you know...because Life?

     

    Good grief..at least be consistent with your beliefs ;-)

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

    Lets say you were this girl and the stalker made his way to Hanover NH.  Where would you feel safer?

    Living in an on-campus dorm with people, security, and locked doors everywhere......but no gun?

      - or-

    Living off campus in an apartment, with a gun?

     
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    So, I think you have a major point there, the stalker being 3,000 miles away.  

    Having been faced with such a situation, the stalked has obviously become aware of something liberals pretend is not the case: that the world is a dangerous place.

    that, and airplanes and rental cars. 3,000 miles means I can leave the west coast on the red eye and be at Dartmouth for breakfast.

    as far the "defensive tools": again, who are YOU to decide what is appropriate for HER?

    if she is fine with mace, that's HER call, not YOURS.




    So...Choice is okay if it involves a woman being able to carry a gun ( even though it may end the life of another human being).

    But......Choice is not okay when it comes to a woman being able to exercise her right to privacy when it comes to health care , pregnancy and abortion....you know...because Life?

     

    Good grief..at least be consistent with your beliefs ;-)



    I am consistent.  Refer back to your own statement. "...even though it may end the life of another human being.  "

    How inconsistent are you?  Is a woman being attacked by a rapist really the equivalent of an innocent child?

    as I mentioned in another thread, I'm a bit more to you have a responsibility to defend yourself than you have the option to do so.

    but, I imagine you think government is just chock full of people that have your best interests at heart, and will drop everything to rush to the aid of a coed in danger.

     

     
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    Re: Ivy League pointy heads - zero tolerance for guns but not stalkers

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    In response to devildavid's comment:




    "They would rather see this student raped, kidnapped and murdered rather than get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns."




    Your conclusion is illogical. Just because they don't want any student to carry a gun does not lead logically to them wanting any student to be harmed in any way. Perhaps it is regressives like you who want her to be attacked so you can say "I told ya so".




     





    devildavid,


     


     


    Your points are well taken.


     


    First, to make the generalization that some people have an "irrational fear and hatred of guns" already shows your hand. Having a fear of guns and hating guns may be the most rational stance a person can take. Getting over it may be the worst decision a person can make.


     


    Not wanting students to carry guns of course does not lead to wanting them to be harmed. At least if you are following a logical path. 


     


    It is no more logical than wanting them not to carry guns, be attacked so you can say, "I told you so".


     


    One has to be sick to want either of these scenarios to come true so their side can win political points.


     


     


     




    I'm really beside myself that the left sees guns and protecting yourself as the absolute seat of evil.  Is your adherence to big government and/or Obama so blinding that you can't see the flaws in your logic?


     


     


     


    guns, and a society that respects women's right to protect themselves and not be dependent on government for such action is so much more empowering than The government providing Sandra Fluke birth control.  The progressives don't have women's interests at heart, they just don't want them to be responsible or empowered outside af a progressive big government ideology.

     
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