Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly

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    It looks like Globe does not have a thread on this BIG story because they know they will the hammered on this so I am starting the thread here.  Basically, Sen. Kennedy wants his senate seat filled ASAP when he meets St. Peter.  He is asking Patrick and Mass legislature leaders to change the law back to pre-2004.  Yup, let's just "change" the law to his liking.  When Mitt Romney was the governor the legislature could not stand there could be a SLIGHT chance that Kerry could win the president and Mass would lose a Dem senate seat to a potential Rep senator, the changed the law just to to "prevent" Mitt from appointing a Republican to the senate.  Now they want to change the rule of the game now since they have a Dem governor in charge.  What was their slogan back in 2004?  LET PEOPLE DECIDE.  Well, it is the law now so LET PEOPLE DECIDE who the next senator from Mass will be.   
     
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    And the people will decide. Kennedy's suggestion is that the appointee can not run in the election.
     
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    [QUOTE]And the people will decide. Kennedy's suggestion is that the appointee can not run in the election.
    Posted by easydoesit2[/QUOTE]. 

    As it was when Romney was gov.  Odd how they changed the law then, and now want to change it back, eh?
     
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    Bwaaaa.. Teddy only cares about Massachusetts. What a guy !
     
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    Thar she blows..


     
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    Anyone who couldn't see this coming the moment Teddy got sick needs to buy themselves a clue.

    Beyond that, if you don't like the composition of the State House and the party in charge, then get out there and change it.  Whining about it will accomplish nothing.  (Or go out and buy some guns, if it makes you feel better.)

     
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    [QUOTE]Anyone who couldn't see this coming the moment Teddy got sick needs to buy themselves a clue. Beyond that, if you don't like the composition of the State House and the party in charge, then get out there and change it.  Whining about it will accomplish nothing.  (Or go out and buy some guns, if it makes you feel better.)
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    Nice deflection.

    "Whining about it will accomplish nothing"

    Remember your words next time you complain about private insurers and our current healthcare system
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Nice deflection. " Whining about it will accomplish nothing " Remember your words next time you complain about private insurers and our current healthcare system
    Posted by dexter67[/QUOTE]

    Who's whining?  I did my part to support and elect leaders who would take up the issue of health care reform back in November...as opposed to voting for what surely would have been the maintenance of the status quo.

    But thanks for parsing....
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Who's whining?  I did my part to support and elect leaders who would take up the issue of health care reform back in November...as opposed to voting for what surely would have been the maintenance of the status quo. But thanks for parsing....
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    And yet you still whine about it. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Who's whining?  I did my part to support and elect leaders who would take up the issue of health care reform back in November...as opposed to voting for what surely would have been the maintenance of the status quo. But thanks for parsing....
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    In consideration of the radical socio/political/industrial changes being served up.. the status quo seems like a haven... at least to working Americans.  


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : And yet you still whine about it. 
    Posted by dexter67[/QUOTE]

    Heh.  That's droll coming from the side whose current political discourse amounts to nothing more than "socialism", "he's a muslim!", birth certificates, nazis, "white culture" and Glenn Beck.

    If I'm whining, then the right-wing in this country is as shrill and apoplectic as a teenage girl.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : In consideration of the radical socio/political/industrial changes being served up.. the status quo seems like a haven... at least to working Americans.  
    Posted by Ohhhhh-Bammy[/QUOTE]

    Right.  Because doing nothing about a problem instead of working to change it is always the best option.

    Funny thing is that conservatives are always saying how people should take responsibility for themselves and others and strive to succeed and improve their surroundings.  On that note, healthcare reform is one of the most fiscally conservative issues out there.

    And thanks for ignoring those folk who happen to be out-of-work in lieu of "working americans"...very empathetic of you.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Right.  Because doing nothing about a problem instead of working to change it is always the best option. Funny thing is that conservatives are always saying how people should take responsibility for themselves and others and strive to succeed and improve their surroundings.  On that note, healthcare reform is one of the most fiscally conservative issues out there. And thanks for ignoring those folk who happen to be out-of-work in lieu of "working americans"...very empathetic of you.
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    Kind sir,

    There was NO HC emergency last year.. or the year before. The proposed TAX (aka HC reform) on working legal Americans to subsidize jobs and benefits for political motivations was created intentionally and I must add with malice. I find it most divisive.

    Please don't play the violin. I hold no sympathy for people who invade our country, fill our prisons, disrespect our way of life and comsume it's many resources (medical, schools, etc) without ever thinking of those that support them... all the while I work 2 jobs barely managing to get by. Where is your empathy for working Americans? Will you have more when they have to carry a greater burden? Perhaps you do not have to worry of such things.

    I won't generalize about libs and cons.. I speak more to real life experiences and the direct impacts and costs to Americans.  
     
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    [QUOTE]Anyone who couldn't see this coming the moment Teddy got sick needs to buy themselves a clue. Beyond that, if you don't like the composition of the State House and the party in charge, then get out there and change it.  Whining about it will accomplish nothing.  (Or go out and buy some guns, if it makes you feel better.)
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    Did you look at the Poll, roughly 2/3 do not want the seat filled by the Gov for the next 5 months.  That resullt in Mass on a liberal paper.......that says volumes about the trust in Government.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Heh.  That's droll coming from the side whose current political discourse amounts to nothing more than "socialism", "he's a muslim!", birth certificates, nazis, "white culture" and Glenn Beck. If I'm whining, then the right-wing in this country is as shrill and apoplectic as a teenage girl.
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Those claims are pathetic. No argument here.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : .  As it was when Romney was gov.  Odd how they changed the law then, and now want to change it back, eh?
    Posted by GreginMedford[/QUOTE]
    Is the law the same, or was the old law to appoint until the next regular election? You don't need to be told that five months is different than 6 years, and incumbancy is an advantage no matter how brief. Kennedy's requested amendment avoids both. I don't like gubenatorial appointments either, but I don't like an empty Senate seat.  With the appointee unable to run, I don't see the harm.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Did you look at the Poll, roughly 2/3 do not want the seat filled by the Gov for the next 5 months.  That resullt in Mass on a liberal paper.......that says volumes about the trust in Government.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Joe,

    You're by far too logical.
    The reality is that the govenor, the legislature (state and federal) and as recently demonstrated the POTUS doesn't care what the majority of the people think or want. They care about power and preserving that power. They will do what's best for them and them alone.

    Sorry.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Did you look at the Poll, roughly 2/3 do not want the seat filled by the Gov for the next 5 months.  That resullt in Mass on a liberal paper.......that says volumes about the trust in Government.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Those polls are probably asking the sheep who are as stupid as the elected officials who are saying they don't think the governor should appoint someone, that they should be elected.   

    Maybe they should have some of these politicians take the English portion of MCAS.  They would fail based on lack of reading comprehension.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Did you look at the Poll, roughly 2/3 do not want the seat filled by the Gov for the next 5 months.  That resullt in Mass on a liberal paper.......that says volumes about the trust in Government.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Yes, and the governor has gone on record as saying he doesn't think the law should be changed.

    Now supposing Patrick keeps his word (not a given), will he be appreciably lauded for doing "what the people want", or will he be excoriated for not taking advantage of a political opportunity??  I guess we'll find out....
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Kind sir, There was NO HC emergency last year.. or the year before. The proposed TAX (aka HC reform) on working legal Americans to subsidize jobs and benefits for political motivations was created intentionally and I must add with malice. I find it most divisive. Please don't play the violin. I hold no sympathy for people who invade our country, fill our prisons, disrespect our way of life and comsume it's many resources (medical, schools, etc) without ever thinking of those that support them... all the while I work 2 jobs barely managing to get by. Where is your empathy for working Americans? Will you have more when they have to carry a greater burden? Perhaps you do not have to worry of such things. I won't generalize about libs and cons.. I speak more to real life experiences and the direct impacts and costs to Americans.  
    Posted by Ohhhhh-Bammy[/QUOTE]


    And yet you're playing apologist for a drastically mis-regulated industry which has been fighting health care reform for over 80 years.  And unless you're grasp of history is shot, you would know that such unbridled capitalism often has very little concern for "working Americans".  The only one who makes excuses for a stacked deck is the dealer.

    Further, do your "working Americans" include children, the working poor, and the elderly on medicare who have worked their whole lives and earned their right to affordable health care??  (That you brought immigration into this lays bare your devotion to ideology, not pragmatism.)  And nary a mention for corporate ethics or public equity...??
     
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    If Ted is so concerned, pick a date to step down and we can start working on an election for a replacement now.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kennedy wants his senate seat filled quickly : Yes, and the governor has gone on record as saying he doesn't think the law should be changed. Now supposing Patrick keeps his word (not a given), will he be appreciably lauded for doing "what the people want", or will he be excoriated for not taking advantage of a political opportunity??  I guess we'll find out....
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    Both!
     
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    Patrick will be under a good amount of political pressure to go along with Kennedy. My guess is he will give in.

     
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    Perhaps.  We'll see.  Dex is right, though.  He probably doesn't want to be known as the guy who refuses another man's dying wish.

     
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    [QUOTE]Anyone who couldn't see this coming the moment Teddy got sick needs to buy themselves a clue. Beyond that, if you don't like the composition of the State House and the party in charge, then get out there and change it.  Whining about it will accomplish nothing.  (Or go out and buy some guns, if it makes you feel better.)
    Posted by Mattyhorn[/QUOTE]

    I love the cavalier attitude when it suits you politics.
    geez, you really have no principles.
     

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