Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    I did not realize you were a racist and against allowing hard-working immigrants to come here. They are only trying to feed their families.

    These turds are lining up with you and your Dear Leader Barack Obama. What are you complaining about? 

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    Examples:

    Hewlett-Packard, whose Executive Vice President for Human Resources Tracy Keogh signed the letter, laid off 29,000 employees in 2012. In August of this year, Cisco Systems, whose Senior Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer Kathleen Weslock signed the letter, announced plans to lay off 4,000 — in addition to 8,000 cut in the last two years. United Technologies, whose Senior Vice President of Human Resources and Organization Elizabeth B. Amato signed the letter, announced layoffs of 3,000 this year. American Express, whose Chief Human Resources Officer L. Kevin Cox signed the letter, cut 5,400 jobs this year. Procter & Gamble, whose Chief Human Resources Officer Mark F. Biegger signed the letter, announced plans to cut 5,700 jobs in 2012.

    Those are just a few of the layoffs at companies whose officials signed the letter. A few more: T-Mobile announced 2,250 layoffs in 2012. Archer-Daniels-Midland laid off 1,200. Texas Instruments, nearly 2,000. Cigna, 1,300. Verizon sought to cut 1,700 jobs by buyouts and layoffs. Marriott announced “hundreds” of layoffs this year. International Paper has closed plants and laid off dozens. …

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    The fanatical leftist zealot airborne is pro-amnesty....and has told us that those who oppose amnesty are racists.

    ..... but airborne believes those in the business community who support amnesty laid off thousands of American workers, just so they could hire illegal aliens for lower wages...

    So why is airborne pro-amnesty in the first place? 

    As an aside, this is the latest excuse of the lefties for the abysmal Obama economy....evil business made layoffs, just so they could later hire illegals at low wages...

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    As an aside, this is the latest excuse of the lefties for the abysmal Obama economy....evil business made layoffs, just so they could later hire illegals at low wages...

     

     


    It's also the latest example of american corporations doing everything they can to avoid creating jobs...

    ...even while state and local govts are directly responsible for most of the jobs lost in the past 6 years.

     

    Neither of which is the president's fault, despite what you think.

     

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

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    I did not realize you were a racist

     




     


    Huh?

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    Obviously he is against more dark-skinned people coming into the US.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.


    Creating jobs is expensive for companies under Obama...thats why they are hiring consultants, part time people and temporaries. Thems be da facts.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    Liberals dont understand that the purpose of business is to make a profit, by providing needed goods or services efficiently.

    Business purpose is not to serve the State and bail out the current President's policy failure,  by hiring employees they cant afford and dont need.

    Why dont you hire 10 people, Airborne, to make the economy better? Whether you can afford it, need or can use the employees, is secondary, right?

     

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    "They will lay-off an American workers just to pad their bottom line and shift profits up to the eion xecutive suite"

    The ol' class warfare jealousy idiocy....amazing how many low information voters fall for that Marxist nonsense...

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

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    Creating jobs is expensive for companies under Obama...thats why they are hiring consultants, part time people and temporaries. Thems be da facts.

     



    The "facts" are that creating jobs in the U.S. has ALWAYS been expensive because it costs money to make a business profitable when there is no demand.

     

    And so if the private sector isn't supposed to create jobs, and the public sector isn't supposed to create jobs...

    ...where is this "job fairy" who is to wave a magic wand and get unemployment numbers down...?

    Oh, right....

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    "And so if the private sector isn't supposed to create jobs, and the public sector isn't supposed to create jobs......where is this "job fairy" who is to wave a magic wand and get unemployment numbers down...?

    The capitalist system, also known as free enterprise, is not perfect  but has been by far the greatest success story in human history in producing jobs, prosperity and economic opportunity fairly , for all.

    Free enterprise is the "job fairy", not the statist failures of 'stimulus', overregulation and top down Government oversight.

    Government need only get the hell out of the way.
     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    "And so if the private sector isn't supposed to create jobs, and the public sector isn't supposed to create jobs......where is this "job fairy" who is to wave a magic wand and get unemployment numbers down...?

    The capitalist system, also known as free enterprise, is not perfect  but has been by far the greatest success story in human history in producing jobs, prosperity and economic opportunity fairly , for all.

    Free enterprise is the "job fairy", not the statist failures of 'stimulus', overregulation and top down Government oversight.

    Government need only get the hell out of the way.
     




    Republicans need only get the hell out of the way.

    We are in an economic vicious cycle. As people lose their jobs, or see their hours and salaries cut, they spend less money. As a result, businesses cut back on hiring, lay off workers, and stop investing in expanded operations because they have no confidence that the demand will be there. This, in turn, leads to higher unemployment and the cycle begins again.

    The same vicious cycle occurs with regards to government budgets during down times. Individuals pay less in taxes due to lower income. People who lose their jobs are forced to rely more on government safety net programs. As a result of lower revenues and increased need for spending, deficits increase. And republicans react by calling for spending cuts which, in turn, causes more unemployment.

    The only way out of these vicious cycles is through a huge influx of government spending. Individuals cannot pull us out because they don't have money to spend. Businesses won't spend the money they have because they don't have demand to respond to. Only government can provide the money needed to break this cycle.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    As an aside, this is the latest excuse of the lefties for the abysmal Obama economy....evil business made layoffs, just so they could later hire illegals at low wages...

     

     


    It's also the latest example of american corporations doing everything they can to avoid creating jobs...

    ...even while state and local govts are directly responsible for most of the jobs lost in the past 6 years.

     

    Neither of which is the president's fault, despite what you think.

     

     




    So, now you are telling us Obama is not responsible for job creation?  I thought your whole argument was that Obama was creating jobs throug hthis vibrant economy.

    And, since when does being pro illegal immigrtion make you a neo-con?   I thought that was a bread and butter cause of the left.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    "American CEOs used to make 15:1  ratio to avg worker pay, like the rest of the developped world does now. Now it's more like 400:1. "

    Meaningless statistic. There are but a few CEOs, one per business, just as there are but a relative few professional athletes. Their tenure at the top is but short-lived. A fat lifetime pension for a unionized worker is much more expensive than a single CEO salary.

    "Why did 90% of the recovery go to the top 1%? "

    What recovery?

    The difference is, you dont believe in private property, so you visualize all the money  in a big stagnant pot, which you can redistribute as you desire.

    The answer is allowing individual responsibility and ambition to flourish; making a bigger pot....a rising tide lifts all boats...

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    "American CEOs used to make 15:1  ratio to avg worker pay, like the rest of the developped world does now. Now it's more like 400:1. "

    Meaningless statistic. There are but a few CEOs, one per business, just as there are but a relative few professional athletes. Their tenure at the top is but short-lived. A fat lifetime pension for a unionized worker is much more expensive than a single CEO salary.

    "Why did 90% of the recovery go to the top 1%? "

    What recovery?

    The difference is, you dont believe in private property, so you visualize all the money  in a big stagnant pot, which you can redistribute as you desire.

    The answer is allowing individual responsibility and ambition to flourish; making a bigger pot....a rising tide lifts all boats...



    How many families occupy the 0.01%?

    500?

    Why is it easier for you to believe that 150 million americans are being lazy rather than 500 Americans are being greedy.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    The Forbes Magazine list of the 100 richest Americans is made up of about 75% liberals. Whoops, so much for the greedy conservative spiel....

    "The Top 1%" by income  pay about 37% of income taxes....

    If you confiscated the Top 1% income, it wouldnt last very long, would it?

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

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    It's also the latest example of american corporations doing everything they can to avoid creating jobs...




    Why the hell would American companies want to avoid expansion?

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    These crony capitalists along with a bunch of Republicans see these millions of immigrants as cheap labor and a better bottom line. Their wishes align perfectly with those of a bunch of Democrats who see the immigrants as uninformed and beholden voters that would keep them in power for decades.

    A perfect storm, as it were.

     

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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

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    Creating jobs is expensive for companies under Obama...thats why they are hiring consultants, part time people and temporaries. Thems be da facts.

     



    The "facts" are that creating jobs in the U.S. has ALWAYS been expensive because it costs money to make a business profitable when there is no demand.

     

    And so if the private sector isn't supposed to create jobs, and the public sector isn't supposed to create jobs...

    ...where is this "job fairy" who is to wave a magic wand and get unemployment numbers down...?

    Oh, right....

     

     

     




    I think you don't understand the economic principles in play here.

    Companies exist to create value.

    Jobs are a method, not an end.

    If hiring people helps them create value, they will hire.

    If hiring people will create negative value,they will not hire.

    The "job" of the government is not to create jobs, but to, to the extent they are involved, help companies create value b y lowering the barriers and eliminating as much uncertainty as possible.

    Obama has pretty much done the exact opposite.

     

     

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

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    Liberals dont understand that the purpose of business is to make a profit, by providing needed goods or services efficiently.

    Business purpose is not to serve the State and bail out the current President's policy failure,  by hiring employees they cant afford and dont need.

    Why dont you hire 10 people, Airborne, to make the economy better? Whether you can afford it, need or can use the employees, is secondary, right?

     

     

     

     

     

     




    What happened to "corporations are people too, my friend"?

     

    Do they have any civic responsibility?

    Do they owe any allegiance to the country and citizenry who helped build them and allows them to flourish?

    So in the perfect whackjob wingnut world the citizens are supposed to man the parapits and expend the blood and treasure to protect the interests of these companies around the globe and in return the 'job creators' owe nothing.

    They are paying both the lowest tax rates and the lowest percentage of US tax revenue in history which raises everyone else's taxes to pay for infrastructure and that strongest military in the world that you neo-cons love to squawk about but refuse to serve in.

    They are now destroying American jobs so that they can import foreign workers at a much lower rate, depressing wages for everyone.

     

    And this isn't about how many people any one company hires, it's about playing by the same rules that every small business like mine has to play by.

    It's about not creating off-shore shell companies so as to avoid US taxes.

    It's about not laying off American workers only to sponsor a thousand foreign visa workers to take their place at half the cost, depressing everyone's wages.

    It's about not crying about "taxes" or "regulation" that companies llike me pay at double the rate of large corporations.

    It's about you neo-cons pulling your nose out of the deriers of these businesses and stop feeling sorry for them and start caring about the overwhelming majority of small businesses who don't need gimmicks and shell companies to create well paying jobs and still make a legitimate profit for the owners.

    It's about your ignorance in how these large corporations rape this country while you constantly help them tilt the playing field further in their favor all while blaming poor people for being poor.

    It's about good citizenship and civic participation, all things that the Constitution was written to encourage but which you neo-con nitwits constantly scoff at.

     

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    I don't think we are neessarily supporting these companies.  I think we are pointing out that you don't understand the motivations that would cause them to create jobs.

    Bersides, the large compnaies are largely in Obama's pocket.

     
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    Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.

    "And this isn't about how many people any one company hires, it's about playing by the same rules that every small business like mine has to play by. It's about not creating off-shore shell companies so as to avoid US taxes. "

    Then let's change the tax laws!!!

    If there is on thing that shows liberals are phonies, it is the lack of any proposal for  sane  tax reform. That is because liberals want the Government to play favorites....they want the Government to pick and choose winners and losers...

     

     
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