Re: Large companies prove where their allegiance lies, neo-cons sure to line up in agreement.
posted at 9/13/2013 2:17 PM EDT
In response to macnh1's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to macnh1's comment:
Creating jobs is expensive for companies under Obama...thats why they are hiring consultants, part time people and temporaries. Thems be da facts.
The "facts" are that creating jobs in the U.S. has ALWAYS been expensive because it costs money to make a business profitable when there is no demand.
And so if the private sector isn't supposed to create jobs, and the public sector isn't supposed to create jobs...
...where is this "job fairy" who is to wave a magic wand and get unemployment numbers down...?
Matty... companies are hiring and growing on many levels and on other levels they are getting killed by Obamacare and cutting and limiting the hours and availability of benefits and opportunities for people, keeping them from advancing...
it depends on the skill level....if you are a 40k person a family plan costs as much as it does for a 100k person....but the 100k person is harder to find, likely contributing more, essential for growth and more crucial to the success of the company, it makes more sense to keep and pay for benefits for the skilled person, its a smaller percentage of their overall cost as an employee....outsource the 40k person, limit them to part time, replace them with a temp or consultant.....why?? because of Obamacare....it's survival and frees up more money to give to the skilled people who are growing the company.....
skilled people are doing very well in this economy....its the non or less skilled folks that are getting beat up..thats a problem and Obama and the dems dont care because their agenda is more important than people working......companies DONT want to outsource parts of their businesses to India, they dont want to have a bunch of high turnover part time workers that they cant promote and train into other jobs....but they have no choice because the costs are too high.......it's not right but its what people asked for when they voted for Obama....votes have consequences.
You're acting like all these companies really want to do is hire people and advance their careers and pay them more...
...but aww, gee whiz, this darn obamacare keeps us from doing any of that, so instead we're going to sit on our cash, give bonuses to our execs, not invest in infrastucture or new systems.
I've been working with 'out-sourced' labor in India for 15 years, and I can tell you you're flat wrong. And these companies out-source labor, not their "business".
However, what they've done is decrease demand here at home at the same time they've decreased their costs through out-sourcing. Because if nobody here can buy their products, they look at diminishing returns.
And I've said it before, if a company/owner is unable to properly incentivize its workforce through basic, affordable health care coverage and similar benefits, then they should not be in business and really have no basis to complain.
What rational business owner doesn't want to protect their investment in their labor force from undue or chronic illness and thus risk their production?? Similarly, it's downright dickish to fire someone just because they got sick.
It not for Obamacare, health care costs would be rising even faster and higher...as they were in the decades before, and businesses would still be faced with the cost problem of insuring their workforce.
Meanwhile, the people who ARE working are working harder and more productively than ever with historically low wage ratios, while the elites sit on their a&&es getting richer.