Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

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    Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

    Since active duty Special Ops and CIA personnel can't speak out, their retired friends have gotten together on their behalf to voice their frustration over Obama and his admininstration deliberately compromising operational security for political gain. 

    When Diane Feinstein publicly speaks out about and criticizes intelligence leaks from the WHite House, you know there's a problem.

    The response from liberals to the Special Opps and Intelligence Community speaking out about the agregious, careless and destructive release of vital and secret information by Obama has been.....Navy Seals are gutless puppets of the Republican party!!!!  

    Navy Seals gutless???  Really?? Obama and liberals just don't get it.  

    Watch the video....it will save me from cataloging the dozens of failures of the Obama Administration as it relates to protecting our intelligence community and heros of Special Opps. 


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xfti7qtT0&feature=g-logo-xit

     
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    Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

    These people have NO SHAME!!! These are heroes and God forbid they speak out and disagree with the president and his administration, instead of insulting these guys these libs need to listen up and learn something!
     
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    The CIA guys found it unconscionable that Obama announced the raid and capture so quickly rather than waiting a week or two so they could use the information they found.  Instead the people closest to Bin Laden had ample notice to change their tactics and go into hiding.

    The Pakistani Dr who so bravely informed our intelligence community....is now serving 33 years in prison.  Why would ANYONE confidentially assist special opps anymore and risk their lives to help us??

    Seal Team Six, past, present and future....as well as their families are now prime targets as a result of the Obama White House naming them and making a movie about them....

    They pride themselves on working quietly, asking for no accolades, never wanting attention and being anonymous....because it saves their lives and makes otherwise impossible jobs a little easier.....Obama threw it all out the window.

    We should have NO idea that it was Seal Team SIx and we shouldn't know how many did that operation or how.

    Obama as a Commander in Chief is a collossal failure and he gives these guys up and puts them in harms way for one simple reason...political gain and credit where none is due.

    No other President has behaved like Obama and shown such little regard for the safety of our Special Forces and the importance od secrecy.





     
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    These people are conservative functionaries eager to tear down the president for strictly political purposes.  They make baseless assertions that Obama is personally behind the leaks of intelligence information.  They make foolish demands that he should hide the fact that we killed Bin Laden and engage in drone strikes (as if the media would not report it).  They resent that he said he directed the operation to kill Bin Laden when it is obviously true: he is the commander in chief.  They are disloyal.

    Their political agenda can be seen from their website:

    "President Barack Obama is perceived to a significant degree as responsible for the killing of Osama Bin Laden, and has taken significant steps to use that action to prop up his Presidency politically. A notable amount of political hyperbole has already been provided, witness his leaping to the media platform at 11:45 pm on a Sunday night, and the subsequent comments by VP Biden and others to the effect that it was a “bold and courageous” decision, and that “only one other advisor” favored the action.

    While neither is true, this action is perhaps the single most powerful symbol Obama will use during the campaign to provide some credibility to his national defense and foreign affairs stature during the forthcoming fall campaign, thereby avoiding what has been referred to as his various “Tours of Apology” overseas. One may assume, as a practical matter, the BHO political media firm has already laid out the spot featuring him gassing up the stealth helicopters."
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]These people are conservative functionaries eager to tear down the president for strictly political purposes.  They make baseless assertions that Obama is personally behind the leaks of intelligence information.  They make foolish demands that he should hide the fact that we killed Bin Laden and engage in drone strikes (as if the media would not report it).  They resent that he said he directed the operation to kill Bin Laden when it is obviously true: he is the commander in chief.  They are disloyal. Their political agenda can be seen from their website: "President Barack Obama is perceived to a significant degree as responsible for the killing of Osama Bin Laden, and has taken significant steps to use that action to prop up his Presidency politically. A notable amount of political hyperbole has already been provided, witness his leaping to the media platform at 11:45 pm on a Sunday night, and the subsequent comments by VP Biden and others to the effect that it was a “bold and courageous” decision, and that “only one other advisor” favored the action. While neither is true, this action is perhaps the single most powerful symbol Obama will use during the campaign to provide some credibility to his national defense and foreign affairs stature during the forthcoming fall campaign, thereby avoiding what has been referred to as his various “Tours of Apology” overseas. One may assume, as a practical matter, the BHO political media firm has already laid out the spot featuring him gassing up the stealth helicopters."
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]


    "  They make baseless assertions that Obama is personally behind the leaks of intelligence information."

    No, they did not make that assertion.  Again, you are running off at the mouth.

    The leaks came from the White House.  Obama is responsible for the White House.  Obama needs to stop the leaks.  That's what they are saying.

    Obama's response to the leaks has been lackluster, and I am being kind.

    Rube, you are emotionally invested in Obama to the point where you are just making stuff up.  For your own good, stop it.
     
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    And how would it have played if the helicopter crash had led to another Iran hostage rescue fiasco?  Well, it's enough to say that it certainly would have played.

    In this case, the line plays as desperately cynical.  Or, how to turn a military positive into a negative if you're a republican.

    This and the opposition to the Libya incursion.  Topsy.

    And are there any swiftboaters involved in this?
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : "  They make baseless assertions that Obama is personally behind the leaks of intelligence information." No, they did not make that assertion.  Again, you are running off at the mouth. The leaks came from the White House.  Obama is responsible for the White House.  Obama needs to stop the leaks.  That's what they are saying. Obama's response to the leaks has been lackluster, and I am being kind. Rube, you are emotionally invested in Obama to the point where you are just making stuff up.  For your own good, stop it.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    Watch the video. I bet you haven't bothered.  They said the president was leaking information to the enemy. They said the administration willfully leaked intelligence. They are disgusting and disloyal liars who are doing this for strictly political ends. I suggest you actually watch the video before you talk about it again.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : "  They make baseless assertions that Obama is personally behind the leaks of intelligence information." No, they did not make that assertion.  Again, you are running off at the mouth. The leaks came from the White House.  Obama is responsible for the White House.  Obama needs to stop the leaks.  That's what they are saying. Obama's response to the leaks has been lackluster, and I am being kind. Rube, you are emotionally invested in Obama to the point where you are just making stuff up.  For your own good, stop it.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    Have you watched the video?

    Ben Smith (former seal):  "It is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy.  It will get people killed." 16.18

    Before you spout off on others you should do your homework.  But you are so invested in attacking all things "left" you can't be bothered.

    Remember also there is a difference betwen a credit union and a labor union...
     
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    In Response to Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]Since active duty Special Ops and CIA personnel can't speak out, their retired friends have gotten together on their behalf to voice their frustration over Obama and his admininstration deliberately compromising operational security for political gain.  When Diane Feinstein publicly speaks out about and criticizes intelligence leaks from the WHite House, you know there's a problem. The response from liberals to the Special Opps and Intelligence Community speaking out about the agregious, careless and destructive release of vital and secret information by Obama has been..... Navy Seals are gutless puppets of the Republican party!!!!   Navy Seals gutless???  Really?? Obama and liberals just don't get it.   Watch the video....it will save me from cataloging the dozens of failures of the Obama Administration as it relates to protecting our intelligence community and heros of Special Opps.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xfti7qtT0&feature=g-logo-xit
    Posted by macnh1[/QUOTE]

    More whining from the Faux News/Tea Bagger crowd because Bin Laden didn't get whacked with a republican in the White House. They had hoped and prayed it would happen with George W. (Mission Accomplished) Bush, but it didn't.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]And how would it have played if the helicopter crash had led to another Iran hostage rescue fiasco?  Well, it's enough to say that it certainly would have played. In this case, the line plays as desperately cynical.  Or, how to turn a military positive into a negative if you're a republican. This and the opposition to the Libya incursion.  Topsy. And are there any swiftboaters involved in this?
    Posted by Firewind[/QUOTE]


    It's all a conspiracy.  Unless it's a republican being skewered for being stupid.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : Watch the video. I bet you haven't bothered.  They said the president was leaking information to the enemy. The said the administration was willfully leaking intelligence. They are disgusting and disloyal liars who are doing this for strictly political ends. I suggest you actually watch the video before you talk about it again.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    Too many words, Reubenhop.  One will do:

    Treason.
     
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    How did they feel about the time the CIA and Spec Forces had Osama penned in at Tora Bora and asked the Pentagon to send in a mountain brigade to help capture Osama, only to be told "no" by Rumsfield because he was upset that the CIA wouldn't back up the Pentagon's assertion of WMDs in Iraq? Or when the White House leaked the identity of a spy? The previous admin did nothing but roast the CIA over 9/11 and WMDs, not to mention how they mismanaged the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the treatment of wounded vets.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]How did they feel about the time the CIA and Spec Forces had Osama penned in at Tora Bora and asked the Pentagon to send in a mountain brigade to help capture Osama, only to be told "no" by Rumsfield because he was upset that the CIA wouldn't back up the Pentagon's assertion of WMDs in Iraq? Or when the White House leaked the identity of a spy? The previous admin did nothing but roast the CIA over 9/11 and WMDs, not to mention how they mismanaged the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the treatment of wounded vets.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover[/QUOTE]
    Valerie Plame was an analyst, not a spy; and her identity wasn't leaked by the White House. As far as Tora Bora debacle, if you have ANY evidence to support your claim let's hear it.
    If you truly believe Secretary Rumsfeld let displeasure over circumstances affect prosecution of war aims than you are sadly delusional in my opinion. I'm thankful I don't live in the world you inhabit.
    Also, while on subject of Washington duplicity, pettiness, and vengeful misuse of government power.....how IS that whole Hope And Chains thing working out for you ?
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : Valerie Plame was an analyst, not a spy; and her identity wasn't leaked by the White House. As far as Tora Bora debacle, if you have ANY evidence to support your claim let's hear it. If you truly believe Secretary Rumsfeld let displeasure over circumstances affect prosecution of war aims than you are sadly delusional in my opinion. I'm thankful I don't live in the world you inhabit. Also, while on subject of Washington duplicity, pettiness, and vengeful misuse of government power.....how IS that whole Hope And Chains thing working out for you ?
    Posted by jimedfred[/QUOTE]

    Plame was a covert C.I.A. officer. And there is little doubt that her identity was leaked by the White House as a form of retribution for her husband's actions in exposing the shoddy intelligence leading up to the Iraq war. Libby got caught up in the cover up and took the legal hit for others. Its incidents like these that made people want the Hope and Change that you mock.
     
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    Your tenuous hold on reality is indicated by a reliance on baseless accusations supported by a paucity of factual evidence.
    Or do you hold to the Harry Reid standard for evidence when it comes to those who disagree ?

    Again, Ms. Plame was a desk-bound analyst, not a field agent or covert operative. And again, it was proven in a court of law that the White House didn't "out" her. ( especially not as "Agent 69 " or Deep Mongoose or whatever )
    As for Iraqi WMDs  do we know without a doubt they weren't exfiltrated to Syria before the invasion ? Seems to me the Israeli Defense Force later conducted some serious aerial bombardment on an "undisclosed value" target in Syria not long afterwards.

    Next I expect you'll bring up the whole Reagan made a deal with Iran not to release the embassy hostages before the election thing. Do you buy your tinfoil hats at Jordan Marsh , or make them yourself ?
     
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    Not one shred of evidence that Iraq had WMDs and ths clouds wants everyone to believe they were moved to Syria and blown up by Israel. Right. Try googling Tora Bora. On second thought, keep your head buried in the sand. You're much more entertaining the way you are. Moved to Syria and blown up by Israel. LOL. I wonder what happens to chemical and bio weapons when they've been bombed. What an azz.
     
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    "Not one shred of evidence that Iraq had WMDs" Which is why every western intelligence agency independently believed that Iraq maintained active WMD. Right. It's sad when they start to believe their own B.S. isn't it?
     
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    [QUOTE]Your tenuous hold on reality is indicated by a reliance on baseless accusations supported by a paucity of factual evidence. Or do you hold to the Harry Reid standard for evidence when it comes to those who disagree ? Again, Ms. Plame was a desk-bound analyst, not a field agent or covert operative. And again, it was proven in a court of law that the White House didn't "out" her. ( especially not as "Agent 69 " or Deep Mongoose or whatever ) As for Iraqi WMDs  do we know without a doubt they weren't exfiltrated to Syria before the invasion ? Seems to me the Israeli Defense Force later conducted some serious aerial bombardment on an "undisclosed value" target in Syria not long afterwards. Next I expect you'll bring up the whole Reagan made a deal with Iran not to release the embassy hostages before the election thing. Do you buy your tinfoil hats at Jordan Marsh , or make them yourself ?
    Posted by jimedfred[/QUOTE]

    Just repeating your story does not make it true.  Plame was covert and had to resign when she was exposed. Which court of law showed that she was not exposed by the White House? No one was charged with the action. Libby took the hit for lying to covering up for his boss and others.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : Watch the video. I bet you haven't bothered.  They said the president was leaking information to the enemy. They said the administration willfully leaked intelligence. They are disgusting and disloyal liars who are doing this for strictly political ends. I suggest you actually watch the video before you talk about it again.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]


    I've seen the video.  My take is that you are wrong.

    The Administration DID leak intelligence, that's not in dispute.  WHO leaked is.  Willfully?  Well, it was either several mistakes or willful.  Neither you or I have information to prove that definitively.

    There is, however, a released discussion between two administration officials where one told the other to stop leaking, so I think we have some fairly good evidence that it was willful.
     
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    Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

    In Response to Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]Since active duty Special Ops and CIA personnel can't speak out, their retired friends have gotten together on their behalf to voice their frustration over Obama and his admininstration deliberately compromising operational security for political gain.  When Diane Feinstein publicly speaks out about and criticizes intelligence leaks from the WHite House, you know there's a problem. The response from liberals to the Special Opps and Intelligence Community speaking out about the agregious, careless and destructive release of vital and secret information by Obama has been..... Navy Seals are gutless puppets of the Republican party!!!!   Navy Seals gutless???  Really?? Obama and liberals just don't get it.   Watch the video....it will save me from cataloging the dozens of failures of the Obama Administration as it relates to protecting our intelligence community and heros of Special Opps.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xfti7qtT0&feature=g-logo-xit
    Posted by macnh1[/QUOTE]
      Too bad that Mitt Romney is so yellow that he chose 3 years of French Socialism over fighting for the US.  It is disgraceful that this coward is running for President and a huge insult to the men and women in uniform.  This country doesn't need to bring back the same recycled cronies that failed so horribly under the coward Bush regime.

      Republicans just can't get over their anger that bin Laden has been killed.  Obama  deserves great credit for following through on his promise to personally take part in making sure that bin Laden met justice.  Bush said getting him didn't matter and Romney said he wouldn't authorize a move into Pakistan to get bin Laden.
     

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