Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : You are so right !! We need socialism NOW. Now that's change we can believe in. Was it easy to discount real American patriots? Guess Barry won't be sweeping the military vote... again.
    Posted by NO MO O[/QUOTE]
     
      Is that supposed to be a reply?  It looks like jibberish to me.  Mitt Romey chose  French Socialism over the United States because he is a coward.
     
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      Obama didn't dodge the draft(that is a fact.) You are lying  to say he would have.  Romney did dodge the draft because he is yellow.  (That is a fact.  You are a lying if you say he did not
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : Well Barry had plenty of opportunity to serve this nation and ELECTED not to. Is this vaporware bs  just NOT to talk about his abysmal failure?
    Posted by NO MO O[/QUOTE]

      Mitt Romney had plenty of opportunity to not dodge the draft.  But he chose French Socialism over America.  He has a yellow streak ten miles wide.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : I've seen the video.  My take is that you are wrong. The Administration DID leak intelligence, that's not in dispute.  WHO leaked is.  Willfully?  Well, it was either several mistakes or willful.  Neither you or I have information to prove that definitively. There is, however, a released discussion between two administration officials where one told the other to stop leaking, so I think we have some fairly good evidence that it was willful.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    I gave a direct quote.  You ignore it.  You like their politics so you twist (or ignore) the facts to serve your needs.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : Well Barry had plenty of opportunity to serve this nation and ELECTED not to. Is this vaporware bs  just NOT to talk about his abysmal failure?
    Posted by NO MO O[/QUOTE]

    President Obama elected to serve this nation as commander in chief, and was elected to do so.  In this role, he has served with distinction.  As of today, Mr. Romney has no such service.  Four years ago, and many times before, that was hammered by republicans as a reason that someone was not qualified to be president.  For this election, the republicans offered no one who has served.  The one who faced the choice, and deliberately chose not to, is now the candidate.
     
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    And an active participant on this board and in this thread has noted in another thread that Mormons are against war.  What will Mr. Romney do when the time comes?
     
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    [QUOTE]  Obama didn't dodge the draft(that is a fact.) You are lying  to say he would have.  Romney did dodge the draft because he is yellow.  (That is a fact.  You are a lying if you say he did not
    Posted by vtfanofcs[/QUOTE]


    I don't think there was a draft when Obama was of age.

    I don't know Romney's situation, but I do get the feeling that he does not see the military as the career choice I do.  My guess is he chose a religious/work path?  Not sure.

    That, however, is leagues above Obama or the typical progressive stance, both of whom distain the military.

    Just shootin straight.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : I gave a direct quote.  You ignore it.  You like their politics so you twist (or ignore) the facts to serve your needs.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    I didn't ignore it, you are unhinged.  It doesn't support your point of view.  here its:

    "President Barack Obama is perceived to a significant degree as responsible for the killing of Osama Bin Laden, and has taken significant steps to use that action to prop up his Presidency politically. A notable amount of political hyperbole has already been provided, witness his leaping to the media platform at 11:45 pm on a Sunday night, and the subsequent comments by VP Biden and others to the effect that it was a “bold and courageous” decision, and that “only one other advisor” favored the action.

    While neither is true, this action is perhaps the single most powerful symbol Obama will use during the campaign to provide some credibility to his national defense and foreign affairs stature during the forthcoming fall campaign, thereby avoiding what has been referred to as his various “Tours of Apology” overseas. One may assume, as a practical matter, the BHO political media firm has already laid out the spot featuring him gassing up the stealth helicopters."

    Please point out what you find objectionable, and where this references leaks.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : President Obama elected to serve this nation as commander in chief, and was elected to do so.  In this role, he has served with distinction.  As of today, Mr. Romney has no such service.  Four years ago, and many times before, that was hammered by republicans as a reason that someone was not qualified to be president.  For this election, the republicans offered no one who has served.  The one who faced the choice, and deliberately chose not to, is now the candidate.
    Posted by Firewind[/QUOTE]

    When did Obama serve in the military?  You do know that Commander in Chief is a civilian position, not a military position?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : I didn't ignore it, you are unhinged.  It doesn't support your point of view.  here its: "President Barack Obama is perceived to a significant degree as responsible for the killing of Osama Bin Laden, and has taken significant steps to use that action to prop up his Presidency politically. A notable amount of political hyperbole has already been provided, witness his leaping to the media platform at 11:45 pm on a Sunday night, and the subsequent comments by VP Biden and others to the effect that it was a “bold and courageous” decision, and that “only one other advisor” favored the action. While neither is true, this action is perhaps the single most powerful symbol Obama will use during the campaign to provide some credibility to his national defense and foreign affairs stature during the forthcoming fall campaign, thereby avoiding what has been referred to as his various “Tours of Apology” overseas. One may assume, as a practical matter, the BHO political media firm has already laid out the spot featuring him gassing up the stealth helicopters." Please point out what you find objectionable, and where this references leaks.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    You are still ignoring it.

    You cite a dfferent quote. one from the website.  Here is the one I cite (and you ignore) from the video:

    Ben Smith (former seal): "It is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy. It will get people killed." 16:18

    That is a direct attack on the president as the person responsible for leaking intelligence and to the enemy no less! It is a lie and done simply to smear the president for political purposes. 

    But you support the overall effort so it is all good for you... Ends justify the means and all that. Right?
     
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    Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless"

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : You are still ignoring it. You cite a dfferent quote. one from the website.  Here is the one I cite (and you ignore) from the video: Ben Smith (former seal): "It is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy. It will get people killed." 16:18 That is a direct attack on the president as the person responsible for leaking intelligence and to the enemy no less! It is a lie and done simply to smear the president for political purposes.  But you support the overall effort so it is all good for you... Ends justify the means and all that. Right?
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    I am not ignoring it, I cut and pasted it from your post.

    I guess I'm getting to the point where it is obvious you are not representing the facts properly, and can't defend your charges.

    A far as the NEW quote you are adding, who is he supposed to address the issue of leaks from the White House to?  the janitor?  He's holding the president accountable for what goes on in his White House. Fair game.

    If you have a problem with this, then I guess you really have a problem with "Bush lied, people died".
     
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    [QUOTE]Radical thought...!! Holding the president accountable for acts of treason in his own administration. So much for the oath he took. He's going down as the worst and most corrupt president of all time.
    Posted by NO MO O[/QUOTE]
     Actually he MAY not be the worst.....since Woodrow Wlson, F.D.R., and Carter were all complicit in furthering or aiding the advance of the Left's progressive agenda.
    Re: corruption, methinks Presidents Grant, Harding, and Clinton were more morally , ethically or financially corrupt. Also Nixon as far as ethics were concerned.
    I believe Obama is generally honest; merely intellectually bankrupt and trapped by his ideology and lack of logical abilities.
     
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    It's been fascinating to me recently ( since Nixon ) how the two parties approach elections regarding their core ideologies. Conservative Republicans win by clearly stating their stances : Examples -Reagan, G.W. Bush.
    Moderate Repubs lose : G.H.W. Bush, Dole, McCain.

    While openly Leftist Democrats lose : McGovern , Mondale, Gore, Kerry.
    While Dems. who successfully CONCEAL their ideology ( aided & abetted by the mainstream media ) run as centrists and win : Carter, Clinton, and especially Obama.
    Of course these are simplifications, Bush Senior DID beat Dukakis, Clinton's pragmatism led him back to the center after '95, Gore '88' WAS a centrist before later evolving etc.

    But what does it say about Progressive's lack of honesty or consistency that they must conceal their true identities in order to attain power ?
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" :  Actually he MAY not be the worst.....since Woodrow Wlson, F.D.R., and Carter were all complicit in furthering or aiding the advance of the Left's progressive agenda. Re: corruption, methinks Presidents Grant, Harding, and Clinton were more morally , ethically or financially corrupt. Also Nixon as far as ethics were concerned. I believe Obama is generally honest; merely intellectually bankrupt and trapped by his ideology and lack of logical abilities.
    Posted by jimedfred[/QUOTE]


    Reasonable assesment, for now.  Let's see how he behaves when losing.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : oops.. Rubie HATES religions and what they have stood for for thousands of years. He thinks mans laws top the laws of nature and God
    Posted by NO MO O[/QUOTE]

    I am not interested in your version of mythology.  I don't hate any religion.  Most have the same basic ethical viewpoint.  But there are too many people who seek to impose their religious views on others.  In this country we make laws based on rationality, not mythology. Too bad for you.
     
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    In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless":
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Liberals call Navy Seals / US Special Forces "Gutless" : I am not interested in your version of mythology.  I don't hate any religion.  Most have the same basic ethical viewpoint.  But there are too many people who seek to impose their religious views on others.  In this country we make laws based on rationality, not mythology. Too bad for you.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]


    What kind of discussion can we possibly have when you consider all religion "mythology?".

    Your rationalization rests on the cosmic accident theory, that we just happened, out of the ooze. So, your rational views, to the extent they conflict with religious views are based on .... the intelligence imparted by ooze.

    BTW:  I don't think people are trying to impose their religious views on others, unless you limit your discussion to Islam, who has it as part of their charter to do so.  Other religions are offering an alternative to the cold approach you call rationalism.  They do so by talking about what they believe, just like you.  That's not imposition.
     

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