Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

    Yet more proof!! This issue has been bounced around here; progressives deflect, deny, obfuscate, but are averse to reality. Their ideology blinds them. They pretend it is perpetually 1960, when the old South was a backwater, and Detroit was a shining example of a big city, and the urban North wasnt ruined by welfare-state policies and unions... 

    Smear "ALEC" if you want, others have found the same results. This is a ten year trend.

    Yes, some red deep Southern states are still far behind economically. But the facts cannot be denied; liberal economic policies result in Detroit, conservative economic policies result in Houston! 

    Texas outperformed every other state in the nation on jobs and growth over the past decade, according to the latest annual report on state economic performance released Thursday by the American Legislative Exchange Council. Michigan came in dead last.

    The rankings are based on state GDP growth, population shifts, and changes in non-farm payroll jobs between 2001 and 2011.

    The ALEC report also finds that Utah has the best economic outlook this year, and Vermont the worst.

    That outlook ranking is based on more than a dozen public policies that the authors say are closely related to economic growth — including various tax rates, workers compensation costs, minimum wage laws, right to work laws, government jobs as a share of the workforce, and debt service as a share of tax revenues.

    In addition, an IBD analysis of the data finds that conservative, Republican states vastly outperformed liberal, Democratic states over the past decade on jobs and economic growth, and attracted more people to their states.

    In fact, of the 10 states that had the best economic performance over the past decade, all but two — Nevada and Washington — are solid red states, based on the past four presidential elections. Other top economic performers include Utah, Wyoming, North Dakota, Idaho and Arizona.

    At the other end of the spectrum, all but two of the worst-performing states are solidly blue. In addition to Michigan, bottom-dwelling states include New Jersey, Illinois, Connecticut and Massachusetts. The only non-blue states in the bottom 10 were Ohio and Missouri.

    "States with lower taxes and less regulation outperform those that pursue Keynesian-style public policies," said study co-author Jonathan Williams, who is director of ALEC's Center for State Fiscal Reform. "And people are voting with their feet in favor of these states."

    In addition, of the 10 states expected to do best economically this year, only two — Virginia and Florida — aren't solidly Republican.

    And of the 10 states expected to fare worst, all but one — Montana — are solid blue states.

    California and Maryland lost ground on this ranking from last year, thanks to tax hikes in those states. California dropped from 38th to 47th place, and Maryland fell from 20th to 35th place, according to the report, which was co-authored by economist Arthur Laffer and economics writer Stephen Moore.

    Kansas, Wisconsin, Indiana and Ohio gained in the rankings this year. Kansas, for example, jumped to the 11th spot from last year's 26th place, thanks in large part to what the study calls its bold tax reform.



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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

    They're also building a lead in factory explosions.

    Texas will be blue soon enough.

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    Well hopefully they'll soon need less federal largesse from existing blue states...

     



    This money flow from blue to red has been around my whole life.  It really is not a blue/red thing, but an infrastructure thing.  For example:  big things like military bases and power stations get built out West.  Back East, little things get built, like bike paths and Prius charging stations.  Hence, our tax dollars are not reinvested in our communities at the same rate.  Out there, in the "red state" areas, things that matter are being built.  Back East, things that are "feel good" are being built.

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    Move this, its getting old/

     



    lol

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!



    Right....because there are no good jobs in red states. No doctors, lawyers. No IS computer jobs. No airline pilots, architects, engineers....or do you think they work for slave wages too?

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!

     



    Right....because there are no good jobs in red states. No doctors, lawyers. No IS computer jobs. No airline pilots, architects, engineers....or do you think they work for slave wages too?

     

     

     



     

     

    You my friend are delusional.


    I highly doubt that ARCHITECTS and PILOTS are leading the job growth in red states........

    I would suggest that the job growth in these Red States is linked to manufacturing, fabrication, agriculture and the service industry. Their growth spawned by lax regulatory requirements, ie; environmental , labor, tax ...etc.

    These are low wage jobs that exploit cheap labor.

    Capitalism is all about exploitation of the worker!!!


    Don't believe me....Just look around the World. The recent Factory collapse in Bangladesh, the Tunisian vendor setting themself ablaze, igniting The "Arab Spring". The European malaise..........


    It does not take a "rocket scientist" to figure out that there is a rapidly widening chasm between the haves and have nots.

    It's no great wonder that the American/World economy is ailing, the average worker has no income to spend.....

    Learn from history...when these extreme inequalities/imbalances occurr they result in revolution or war....and neither one is very palatable.

    I think we're on that path

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    and after the sequester changes kick in and hundreds of thousands of people get kicked off unemployment Obama will celebrate that unemployment has gone down, not because people are back to work, they are just off unemployment. but the stats will say unemployment is down and that's all everyone will focus on. idiots. democrat/republican.. if you label yourself as either of these you are a complete idiot.



    As opposed to a clueless leftist  who idiotically has an icon of a bloodthirsty Marxist thug, Savadore Allende...

    do you have a Che Guevera tshirt, too?

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    big things like military bases and power stations get built out West.



    Those employ people, yes?

     

    People like CLC tout red state employment rates, yes?

    As you recognize, some of those rates come from job-creation resulting from federal transfer from blue states, yes?

     

    See where I was heading?



    Heading off the cliff...

    "the red states are takers" is a lie.

    The Red States are the "biggest takers" only in the sense that living expenses are much lower and people tend to make less. So, they contribute less in taxes compared to high cost of living blue states states….

    Federal Welfare spending PER capita:

     

    1. District of Columbia (Represented by Democrats)

    2. New York (Democrat State)

    3. California (Democrat State)

    4. New Mexico (Democrat State)

    5. Alaska (Red state)

    6. Vermont (Democrat State)

    7. Louisiana (Red State)

    8. Michigan (Democrat State)

    9. Oklahoma (Red State)

    10. Rhode Island (Democrat State)

     

    As you can see, the Democrat States are the biggest welfare states.

     

    A disproportionate portion of our country's military bases and national parks are in red states. So when someone tells you that red states get more government spending than blue states, it is not necessarily because of welfare, since it takes a lot of government spending to keep those bases and parks running.

     

    If you are a "taker" of a government check, you are almost certainly a "blue" Democrat.

    If you are self reliant and work in the private sector, you are almost certainly a "red" Republican.

    Case closed.

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!


    Wake up, you clueless moonbat.

    Forbes: Texas trounced the rest of the country our latest survey of the Best Cities for Good Jobs, with five metropolitan areas in the Top Ten, including the four best cities to find jobs in the next few years.

    One explanation that is definitely false: Texas isn’t growing on the backs of underpaid, non-union workers. While Texas is a right-to-work state, many of the highest paying jobs in the Dallas area are with unionized defense manufacturers like Bell Helicopter and Lockheed Martin, which produces the F-35 Lightning II fighter at a mile-long plant in Fort Worth.

    Asked about the state’s reputation for union-busting and low-wage jobs, Dallas Federal Reserve Economist Pia Orrenius said “we get a lot of that.”

    “People say it’s all low-pay jobs, so I looked at employment growth by wage quartile,” she said. And guess what? Not only is the Dallas-area per-capita income of $39,548 comfortably above the national average of $37,000, but it’s growing fastest in the top half of wages above $16 an hour.

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

    Never mind that Texas has big livestock and cotton farming industry

    Then there's the steel manufacturing

    Of course there is aerospace, aviation and defense companies

    Then there is information and computer technology with companies like Dell, Texas Insturments, HP Enterprises, VCE, Cisco and National Insturments

    How about the biotechnology marketplace with an estimated impact of $75 Billion. In 2011 one out of every 15 US biotechnology establishments was located in Texas

    I dunno...seems like more than just fossil fuel in Texas

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    the point of this entire fluff article was to say "States with lower taxes and less regulation outperform those that pursue Keynesian-style public policies," said study co-author Jonathan Williams, who is director of ALEC's Center for State Fiscal Reform.

    only an idiot would believe that friedmanite "free-market" economics with less taxes on big business, less worker rights, less regulations, more work for less pay is better than a healthy Keynesian-style economy. 

    why doesn't the article talk about what kind of jobs? because they are all low paying, service jobs. nitpicking stats to support a political agenda.



    Only an ill-informed person would think that Keynes would embrace the open-ended spending currently going on in the federal and state level.  Keynes himself was browbeat by Hayek into admitting that government spending in order to bridge a ressession was at best applicable only within a single budget cycle, and even then, Keynes preferred private spending to public spending if it could happen.


    The type of free market economies that Hayek and Friedman promote are the best solution, period.  Supposed "Keynesian" economies, which are really nothing of the sort, and bear a stronger resemblance to the planned economies of the old Soviet Union, are all dead ends.

    Government has always been shown to be a poor surrogate for individual economic choice.  You, on the other hand, think that government spending is more valuable to the economy than private spending.  After all, isn't that what we are really talking about?  Not what gets spent, but who spends it?

     

    It would be wise for you to learn a bit more about economics.

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!

     


    Wake up, you clueless moonbat.

    Forbes: Texas trounced the rest of the country our latest survey of the Best Cities for Good Jobs, with five metropolitan areas in the Top Ten, including the four best cities to find jobs in the next few years.

     

    One explanation that is definitely false: Texas isn’t growing on the backs of underpaid, non-union workers. While Texas is a right-to-work state, many of the highest paying jobs in the Dallas area are with unionized defense manufacturers like Bell Helicopter and Lockheed Martin, which produces the F-35 Lightning II fighter at a mile-long plant in Fort Worth.

    Asked about the state’s reputation for union-busting and low-wage jobs, Dallas Federal Reserve Economist Pia Orrenius said “we get a lot of that.”

    “People say it’s all low-pay jobs, so I looked at employment growth by wage quartile,” she said. And guess what? Not only is the Dallas-area per-capita income of $39,548 comfortably above the national average of $37,000, but it’s growing fastest in the top half of wages above $16 an hour.



    I've seen you label anyone who gets government money as a 'taker', but yet somehow when talking about defense contractors the same logic doesn't apply. 

    The F-35 program is the most expensive weapons system in history.  Each unit runs about $250million and the cost to taxpayers for the entire program is estimated at $1 trillion.  And the best part is that the planes don't work.  Pilots can't breathe or see anything when flying them.

    Teachers are takers, but a trillion dollar boondoggle is just fine.

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!

     


    Wake up, you clueless moonbat.

    Forbes: Texas trounced the rest of the country our latest survey of the Best Cities for Good Jobs, with five metropolitan areas in the Top Ten, including the four best cities to find jobs in the next few years.

     

    One explanation that is definitely false: Texas isn’t growing on the backs of underpaid, non-union workers. While Texas is a right-to-work state, many of the highest paying jobs in the Dallas area are with unionized defense manufacturers like Bell Helicopter and Lockheed Martin, which produces the F-35 Lightning II fighter at a mile-long plant in Fort Worth.

    Asked about the state’s reputation for union-busting and low-wage jobs, Dallas Federal Reserve Economist Pia Orrenius said “we get a lot of that.”

    “People say it’s all low-pay jobs, so I looked at employment growth by wage quartile,” she said. And guess what? Not only is the Dallas-area per-capita income of $39,548 comfortably above the national average of $37,000, but it’s growing fastest in the top half of wages above $16 an hour.

     



    I've seen you label anyone who gets government money as a 'taker', but yet somehow when talking about defense contractors the same logic doesn't apply. 

     

    The F-35 program is the most expensive weapons system in history.  Each unit runs about $250million and the cost to taxpayers for the entire program is estimated at $1 trillion.  And the best part is that the planes don't work.  Pilots can't breathe or see anything when flying them.

    Teachers are takers, but a trillion dollar boondoggle is just fine.




    When a low-life bum "taker" takes government money, all we get from the bum "taker" is demand for another check next month, and probably some emergency room visits, maybe a stop at the local lock up.

    When Lockheed "taker" gets a government check, we get a big expensive airplane to defend our country.

    Yah, I can see how you get the two confused.  It's easy.

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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     Ok pal, move to a Red State and work like the Dickens for a slave wage. Wake up you dumb fck!!!!!

     


    Wake up, you clueless moonbat.

    Forbes: Texas trounced the rest of the country our latest survey of the Best Cities for Good Jobs, with five metropolitan areas in the Top Ten, including the four best cities to find jobs in the next few years.

     

    One explanation that is definitely false: Texas isn’t growing on the backs of underpaid, non-union workers. While Texas is a right-to-work state, many of the highest paying jobs in the Dallas area are with unionized defense manufacturers like Bell Helicopter and Lockheed Martin, which produces the F-35 Lightning II fighter at a mile-long plant in Fort Worth.

    Asked about the state’s reputation for union-busting and low-wage jobs, Dallas Federal Reserve Economist Pia Orrenius said “we get a lot of that.”

    “People say it’s all low-pay jobs, so I looked at employment growth by wage quartile,” she said. And guess what? Not only is the Dallas-area per-capita income of $39,548 comfortably above the national average of $37,000, but it’s growing fastest in the top half of wages above $16 an hour.

     



    I've seen you label anyone who gets government money as a 'taker', but yet somehow when talking about defense contractors the same logic doesn't apply. 

     

    The F-35 program is the most expensive weapons system in history.  Each unit runs about $250million and the cost to taxpayers for the entire program is estimated at $1 trillion.  And the best part is that the planes don't work.  Pilots can't breathe or see anything when flying them.

    Teachers are takers, but a trillion dollar boondoggle is just fine.

     




    When a low-life bum "taker" takes government money, all we get from the bum "taker" is demand for another check next month, and probably some emergency room visits, maybe a stop at the local lock up.

     

    When Lockheed "taker" gets a government check, we get a big expensive airplane to defend our country.

    Yah, I can see how you get the two confused.  It's easy.



    And here I thought it was a pretty simple and straight-forward concept. Getting a welfare check simply for breathing versus getting paid for the WORK one does is very different. 

    So again, getting paid to do NOTHING versus getting paid to do WORK. Hmmmm...

     
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