Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    When a low-life bum "taker" takes government money, all we get from the bum "taker" is demand for another check next month, and probably some emergency room visits, maybe a stop at the local lock up.

     

    When Lockheed "taker" gets a government check, we get a big expensive airplane to defend our country.

    Yah, I can see how you get the two confused.  It's easy.



    So blinded by your need to hate those less fortunate than you, that you can't even see who is really ripping off the taxpayer.

     

     
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    When a low-life bum "taker" takes government money, all we get from the bum "taker" is demand for another check next month, and probably some emergency room visits, maybe a stop at the local lock up.

     

    When Lockheed "taker" gets a government check, we get a big expensive airplane to defend our country.

    Yah, I can see how you get the two confused.  It's easy.

     



    So blinded by your need to hate those less fortunate than you, that you can't even see who is really ripping off the taxpayer.

     

     



    Those who are mentally/physically unable to provide for themselves aside, how are people who are on welfare "less fortunate"? Why is it they are in a position as being "less fortunate"? Could it be based on their own bad choices? Could it even be because some are just plain fcuking lazy? 

     

     
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    If you are a "taker" of a government check, you are almost certainly a "blue" Democrat.

    If you are self reliant and work in the private sector, you are almost certainly a "red" Republican.

    Case closed.



    Case moronic.

    I'm totally self-reliant and have worked in the private sector all my life.  Also, not a republican.

    Good friend of mine is a firefighter. Collects a govt check.  Also, not a dem.

     

    That was too easy.

     

     

     
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    Those who are mentally/physically unable to provide for themselves aside, how are people who are on welfare "less fortunate"? Why is it they are in a position as being "less fortunate"? Could it be based on their own bad choices? Could it even be because some are just plain fcuking lazy? 


    Define "mentally/physically unable to provide for themselves".

    Lots and lots of gray area in there.

    Isn't being stupid also a mental disorder?

     

     

     
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    Those who are mentally/physically unable to provide for themselves aside, how are people who are on welfare "less fortunate"? Why is it they are in a position as being "less fortunate"? Could it be based on their own bad choices? Could it even be because some are just plain fcuking lazy? 

     

     


    Define "mentally/physically unable to provide for themselves".

    Lots and lots of gray area in there.

    Isn't being stupid also a mental disorder?

     

     



    I expect more from you

     

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    When a low-life bum "taker" takes government money, all we get from the bum "taker" is demand for another check next month, and probably some emergency room visits, maybe a stop at the local lock up.

     

    When Lockheed "taker" gets a government check, we get a big expensive airplane to defend our country.

    Yah, I can see how you get the two confused.  It's easy.

     



    So blinded by your need to hate those less fortunate than you, that you can't even see who is really ripping off the taxpayer.

     

     



    Who says I hate those less fortunate than me?

    seems like you are fairly confused, about the difference between  the government buying a plane, and giving an EBT card to some layabout.

     
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    the point of this entire fluff article was to say "States with lower taxes and less regulation outperform those that pursue Keynesian-style public policies," said study co-author Jonathan Williams, who is director of ALEC's Center for State Fiscal Reform.

    only an idiot would believe that friedmanite "free-market" economics with less taxes on big business, less worker rights, less regulations, more work for less pay is better than a healthy Keynesian-style economy. 

    why doesn't the article talk about what kind of jobs? because they are all low paying, service jobs. nitpicking stats to support a political agenda.

     



    Only an ill-informed person would think that Keynes would embrace the open-ended spending currently going on in the federal and state level.  Keynes himself was browbeat by Hayek into admitting that government spending in order to bridge a ressession was at best applicable only within a single budget cycle, and even then, Keynes preferred private spending to public spending if it could happen.

     


    The type of free market economies that Hayek and Friedman promote are the best solution, period.  Supposed "Keynesian" economies, which are really nothing of the sort, and bear a stronger resemblance to the planned economies of the old Soviet Union, are all dead ends.

    Government has always been shown to be a poor surrogate for individual economic choice.  You, on the other hand, think that government spending is more valuable to the economy than private spending.  After all, isn't that what we are really talking about?  Not what gets spent, but who spends it?

     

    It would be wise for you to learn a bit more about economics.

     



    It would be wise for you to learn what a "strawman" argument is. i'm comparing a friedmanite "free market" economy to a true Keynes economy. i never said Keynes is the best or that it would support the current corrupt system. 

     

    there isn't a more perfect example of the failures and friedmanite econcomics than Chile. i'm assuming you are a working man, and what a fool a working man looks like while supporting friedmanite neoliberal economic policies that give all of the power to private hands and take rights away from working class individuals. what a sucker.



    Chile? You mean where the budgets are balanced and the social security system has been privatized to the benefit of their citizenry? Is that the Chile you mean?  Chile gets high marks from people who actually understand these things.

    Compare chile to it's neighbor to the East (hint: begins with a capital A), that operates more to your liking, and get back to me.

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    If you are a "taker" of a government check, you are almost certainly a "blue" Democrat.

    If you are self reliant and work in the private sector, you are almost certainly a "red" Republican.

    Case closed.

     



    Case moronic.

     

    I'm totally self-reliant and have worked in the private sector all my life.  Also, not a republican.

    Good friend of mine is a firefighter. Collects a govt check.  Also, not a dem.

     

    That was too easy.

     




    Quite a huge sample size there, sure, case closed... As to being in the private sector, didnt you say you serve all of us by shilling for crooked green energy government handouts?

    Share of Recipients of each program that self-identified as supporters of Republican party in 2004-2007 Maxwell Poll:

    Gov. Subsidized Housing 12%
    Medicaid: 16%
    Food Stamps: 20%
    Unemployment Compensation: 21%
    Welfare or public assistance: 22%
    Disability benefits from government 25% ....

     

     

     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    Why do neo-cons continue to try and deny reality so much?

    Just look at two states; MA vs TX.

    Big, independent TX takes a full 40% of it's general revenue from the US federal gov't. This is direct money paid into the general funds that TX spends. That 40% ranks it as the 11th most dependent state for federal welfare. You would think with all the 'booming' TX economy is supposedly doing, it could finance more of it's own budget.

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

    By contrast, MA get's a little over 31% of it's general revenue from the federal gov't, ranking it 40th in the country on the same 'dependency' scale TX is at 11th.

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Massachusetts_state_budget

     

    It's just sad that the neo-cons have painted this entire 'us' vs 'takers' scenario and now they have to admit that their red states are the biggest exploiters of that 'taker' system in the country.

    Embarassing....



    Embarassing how you deny reality ,and judge everything in life by the size and scope of your God of Government.

     
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    the point of this entire fluff article was to say "States with lower taxes and less regulation outperform those that pursue Keynesian-style public policies," said study co-author Jonathan Williams, who is director of ALEC's Center for State Fiscal Reform.

    only an idiot would believe that friedmanite "free-market" economics with less taxes on big business, less worker rights, less regulations, more work for less pay is better than a healthy Keynesian-style economy. 

    why doesn't the article talk about what kind of jobs? because they are all low paying, service jobs. nitpicking stats to support a political agenda.

     



    Only an ill-informed person would think that Keynes would embrace the open-ended spending currently going on in the federal and state level.  Keynes himself was browbeat by Hayek into admitting that government spending in order to bridge a ressession was at best applicable only within a single budget cycle, and even then, Keynes preferred private spending to public spending if it could happen.

     


    The type of free market economies that Hayek and Friedman promote are the best solution, period.  Supposed "Keynesian" economies, which are really nothing of the sort, and bear a stronger resemblance to the planned economies of the old Soviet Union, are all dead ends.

    Government has always been shown to be a poor surrogate for individual economic choice.  You, on the other hand, think that government spending is more valuable to the economy than private spending.  After all, isn't that what we are really talking about?  Not what gets spent, but who spends it?

     

    It would be wise for you to learn a bit more about economics.

     



    It would be wise for you to learn what a "strawman" argument is. i'm comparing a friedmanite "free market" economy to a true Keynes economy. i never said Keynes is the best or that it would support the current corrupt system. 

     

    there isn't a more perfect example of the failures and friedmanite econcomics than Chile. i'm assuming you are a working man, and what a fool a working man looks like while supporting friedmanite neoliberal economic policies that give all of the power to private hands and take rights away from working class individuals. what a sucker.

     



    Chile? You mean where the budgets are balanced and the social security system has been privatized to the benefit of their citizenry? Is that the Chile you mean?  Chile gets high marks from people who actually understand these things.

     

    Compare chile to it's neighbor to the East (hint: begins with a capital A), that operates more to your liking, and get back to me.

     

     



    it would be wise for you to read up and learn some history on Chile under pinochet who under friedman and his chicago boys implemented the friedmanite economics and the effect it had on the working class. truly ignorant you are.

     

    In 1933, Allende co-founded the Socialist Party of Chile and became its chairman.  His 1933 doctoral thesis, Higiene Mental y Delincuencia (Crime and Mental Hygiene), suggests a very dark side that few are aware of.  Respected Chilean historian and author Víctor Farías, himself politically to the Left, published Salvador Allende: Antisemitismo y Eutanasia (Salvador Allende: Antisemitism and Euthanasia).  This alleged that Allende supported the anti-Semitism and eugenics policies of the contemporary Nazis.  Allende’s fans disputed that vociferously, but Farías rebutted them in 2006 with Salvador Allende: El fin del mito (Salvador Allende: The End of the Myth).  He used documents from East German archives to argue that there were many ties between the Chilean Socialist Party and the German National Socialists.


    The Allende government’s economic policies were an almost unmitigated disaster. With the exception of an interesting and positive experiment made during the first year of the administration, these policies were negative and generated Chile’s worst economic crisis in its entire history as an independent country. The economic disaster was multidimensional. Before the end of the regime, production was declining precipitously, investments were severely curtailed, savings were all but nonexistent, levels of living of the masses were as low or lower than they had been when Allende took office, shortages were all but universal. Most striking of all, inflation had become completely uncontrollable, running at more than 300 percent a year, with the prices increasing more and more each day.” (Alexander, p. 173)

    “The Marxists promised in 1970 to end inflation. But the rate of inflation in 1972 was more than 163 per cent, a world record. Over the twelve months up to August 1973 the rate of inflation was 323 per cent. Those figures are comparable only, perhaps, with what happened in Weimar Germany, or with the state of things in Brazil on the eve of the generals’coup … Inflation under Allende was the result both of declining production —due to the reckless and disorderly process of state takeover of private firms— and of the government’s clumsy attempts to cover its whopping budgetary deficit by printing paper money.” (Moss, p. 54). “The deficit for 1973 … reached 53 percent of the government budget. (Central Bank figures indicate that the money supply rose by 3,400 percent by the end of 1973). (Sigmund, p. 234)”

    “Agriculture suffered an even greater decline in output than did manufacturing. In 1972, the fall was about 6.7 percent, and it is estimated that the further decline in 1973 was 16.8 percent. The falloff in output of specific crops was especially striking. For instance, the output of wheat fell almost 50 percent, that of barley by more than 25 percent, oats by 12.4 percent, and rice by almost 30 percent. Similar declines were to be noted in almost all of the other product areas … Agricultural output undoubtedly declined because of diminution in the amount of land under cultivation. In the three years of the Allende regime, this total fell by about 22.4 percent. A ‘secret’ report of the Socialist party in 1972 admitted that almost half of the land the Allende government had taken over in the agrarian reform was not being cultivated.” (Alexander, p. 179)

    “A survey made by one chain of cooperative stores operating mainly in the poorer neighborhoods reported that at the end of 1972, about 2,500 of some 3,000 products for the home which were normally kept in stock could no longer be obtained. In the face of these shortages, President Allende was very reticent about establishing an open and formal system of rationing. Over and over, he insisted that he would never impose rationing on the citizenry. To the end he denied that there was a system or rationing. In fact, during at least the last year of the government a de facto rationing system did exist. It operated on at least two levels, that of the working-class areas and that of the middle- and upper-class parts of the cities.” (Alexander, p. 185)

    “This crisis was not the result of deliberate administration policy. Rather, it was the result of the chaotic and often illegal way in which private enterprises were being shifted to the social area; the total discouragement of investment in, and even maintenance of, the property still held by private firms and individuals; the conflicting government objectives to redistribute income and expand the economy in which the economy was largely sacrificed to income redistribution; the decline in output caused by social conflict and mismanagement; and the increasingly convulsed political situation resulting from the government’s unwillingness to compromise with the still majority opposition. Whatever the causes of the economic crisis, its political effects proved catastrophic. The economic situation, particularly the shortages and the uncontrolled inflation, helped create the ‘prerevolutionary’ atmosphere of the last weeks and months of the Unidad Popular government.” (Alexander, p. 193



     
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    Re: Liberals cant handle the truth : more evidence that Texas, Red States Beat Blue States On Jobs, Growth

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    CLC, instead of searching google for key words that fit your preconceived notions how about actually reading a book yourself?

    i'm not impressed by your copy and paste job about things you obviously have no clue about.

    http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/4624.html

    gee, you found anti-allende rhetoric on the chicagboyz website.. how surprising!! 




    You are quick and witty ..... Br'er Crankup doesn't have a chance

     
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    The marxist thug and massive failure Allende is your hero...good luck with that. Allende committed suicide, he was nothing but  a thug and murderer.

    Ruined the Chilean economy in record time, even for a Marxist.

     

     
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    CLC, instead of searching google for key words that fit your preconceived notions how about actually reading a book yourself?

    i'm not impressed by your copy and paste job about things you obviously have no clue about.

    http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/4624.html

    gee, you found anti-allende rhetoric on the chicagboyz website.. how surprising!! 

     




    You are quick and witty ..... Br'er Crankup doesn't have a chance

     



    No doubt sister has a stupid irrelevant leftist cartoon to spam...

     

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