Meanwhile In Congress: Attempt #37 To Repeal The ACA

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    Meanwhile In Congress: Attempt #37 To Repeal The ACA

    House to Vote Yet Again on Repealing Health Care Law

    WASHINGTON — The 37th time won’t be the charm. But House Republicans are charging forward anyway this week on a vote to repeal President Obama’s signature health care overhaul, which will put the number of times they have tried to eliminate, defund or curtail the law past the three-dozen mark.

    Three dozen is a lot for a bill that currently has no prayer of becoming law. But the figure 37 actually understates the amount of time Republicans have devoted to litigating and trying to dismantle the president’s biggest legislative accomplishment.

    The repeal vote, which is likely to occur Thursday, will be at least the 43rd day since Republicans took over the House that they have devoted time to voting on the issue.

    To put that in perspective, they have held votes on only 281 days since taking power in January 2011. (The House and Senate have pretty light legislative loads these days, typically voting only three or four days a week.)

    That means that since 2011, Republicans have spent no less than 15 percent of their time on the House floor on repeal in some way.

     
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    Good! Hope they make it an even 50 attempts to repeal  the ACA.

    At least the voters will know the GOP tried to stop this atrocity. Obama cant blame ObamaCare on Bush and the GOP , the overused talking points about RomneyCare and the Heritage Foundation's 1990s proposals notwithstanding!

    Also, when the public realizes the enforcement agency for ObamaCare is the warm and fuzzy , totally non partisan IRS , that will not help ObamaCare's already-low popularity.

     
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    House to Vote Yet Again on Repealing Health Care Law

    WASHINGTON — The 37th time won’t be the charm. But House Republicans are charging forward anyway this week on a vote to repeal President Obama’s signature health care overhaul, which will put the number of times they have tried to eliminate, defund or curtail the law past the three-dozen mark.

    Three dozen is a lot for a bill that currently has no prayer of becoming law. But the figure 37 actually understates the amount of time Republicans have devoted to litigating and trying to dismantle the president’s biggest legislative accomplishment.

    The repeal vote, which is likely to occur Thursday, will be at least the 43rd day since Republicans took over the House that they have devoted time to voting on the issue.

    To put that in perspective, they have held votes on only 281 days since taking power in January 2011. (The House and Senate have pretty light legislative loads these days, typically voting only three or four days a week.)

    That means that since 2011, Republicans have spent no less than 15 percent of their time on the House floor on repeal in some way.



    I'm guessing you and Airborne, I mean Concerned Citizen, wouldn't be complaining about Dems spending too much time on an issue if it was for gay marriage for example.

    You do realize not ALL Repub Senators and Congressmen work on these repeals right?

     
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    Yep, those dolts sure are consistent.

    So it's more of the same bloviating from the right.

    Heck they are now voting to repeal a law that they have previously voted to strengthen.

     

     

    GOP fast tracks bill to fortify ObamaCare.

    House Republicans are moving quickly on a new bill to strengthen ObamaCare's temporary insurance plan for people with pre-existing conditions.

    The Helping Sick Americans Now Act (H.R. 1549) was introduced late Monday and is scheduled for a mark-up Wednesday in the House Energy and Commerce Committee.



    No, they are compromising (like you say they never do) and trying to keep any pieces of a massive government takeover scheme, that actually make sense.

     
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    Boils down to republicans lacking human decency. To them, every unfortunate soul who is dropped by their health insurer, can't afford insurance, or simply has a run of horrible luck...is irresponsible, a freeloader, trying to game the system, deserving of whatever fate befalls them.

    Of course they are always promising to replace the law.....with the same healthcare reforms they've been trying to enact over the last several decades:  None

    Here is a list of ACA benefits that the right wing despises:

    * Forbidding pre-existing condition exclusion policies

    * Forbidding annual and lifetime caps on benefits under health insurance policies

    * Preventing recissions, which is the industry practice of happily accepting your premiums for years on end, but then finding any excuse to cancel your coverage as soon as you get sick

    * Requiring a medical-loss ratio of at least 80%, which means that your insurance company has to spend at least 80% of your premiums on providing you with health care services.

    * Establishing a Rate Review Program that ensures that the health insurance industry has to justify rate increases of more than 10%.

    * Closing the Medicare prescription drug coverage doughnut hole, which ObamaCare began to close in 2011 and would fully eliminate by 2020

    * Eliminating co-pays for preventive care services, such as cholesterol screening, mammograms and other cancer screening, and annual wellness visits. So far in 2012, 14.3 million seniors have received free preventive care services thanks to ObamaCare

    * Requiring insurance companies to cover under their parents’ policies adult children until they reach the age of 26.

     
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    In response to UserName99's comment:

    Boils down to republicans lacking human decency. To them, every unfortunate soul who is dropped by their health insurer, can't afford insurance, or simply has a run of horrible luck...is irresponsible, a freeloader, trying to game the system, deserving of whatever fate befalls them.

    Of course they are always promising to replace the law.....with the same healthcare reforms they've been trying to enact over the last several decades:  None

    Here is a list of ACA benefits that the right wing despises:

    * Forbidding pre-existing condition exclusion policies

    * Forbidding annual and lifetime caps on benefits under health insurance policies

    * Preventing recissions, which is the industry practice of happily accepting your premiums for years on end, but then finding any excuse to cancel your coverage as soon as you get sick

    * Requiring a medical-loss ratio of at least 80%, which means that your insurance company has to spend at least 80% of your premiums on providing you with health care services.

    * Establishing a Rate Review Program that ensures that the health insurance industry has to justify rate increases of more than 10%.

    * Closing the Medicare prescription drug coverage doughnut hole, which ObamaCare began to close in 2011 and would fully eliminate by 2020

    * Eliminating co-pays for preventive care services, such as cholesterol screening, mammograms and other cancer screening, and annual wellness visits. So far in 2012, 14.3 million seniors have received free preventive care services thanks to ObamaCare

    * Requiring insurance companies to cover under their parents’ policies adult children until they reach the age of 26.




    Most of these things don't bother "right wing" at all.  What bothers the "right wing" is that these things are not attainable by waving some magic wand down in Washington. 

    Honest people look at this list and say, some good things in there, but they are going to cost us, and government will mismanage it.

    The left, however, is not interested in these items.  What the left is interested is government control.  We will pay dearly for this.

     
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    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

     

    Yep, those dolts sure are consistent.

    So it's more of the same bloviating from the right.

    Heck they are now voting to repeal a law that they have previously voted to strengthen.

     

     

    GOP fast tracks bill to fortify ObamaCare.

    House Republicans are moving quickly on a new bill to strengthen ObamaCare's temporary insurance plan for people with pre-existing conditions.

    The Helping Sick Americans Now Act (H.R. 1549) was introduced late Monday and is scheduled for a mark-up Wednesday in the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

     



    No, they are compromising (like you say they never do) and trying to keep any pieces of a massive government takeover scheme, that actually make sense.

     

     

     




     

    Wow!!

    That is so crazy only a partisan hack would believe it.

    So how, exactly, would they work the pre-existing condition angle if the underlying law is repealed?

    Sounds like another pachyderm catastrophe akin to the unfunded Medicare part D.



    So, if MEdicare part D didn't work, what makes you think Obamacare will work?  back to that magic wand?

     
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    more americans getting health care coverage = "atrocity"

    That's all one really needs to know about these attempts and the people behind them....the people who want the freedom to decide who lives and dies.

     

    Still no word, either, on what they would replace the ACA with.  They got nothing.

     

     

     
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    more americans getting health care coverage = "atrocity"

    That's all one really needs to know about these attempts and the people behind them....the people who want the freedom to decide who lives and dies. 

    Still no word, either, on what they would replace the ACA with.  They got nothing. 




    You dont. "Replace it" you stop it and start over on HCR bill everyone can get behind (not made behind closed doors with shady deals) and get everyone involved!

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    more americans getting health care coverage = "atrocity"

    That's all one really needs to know about these attempts and the people behind them....the people who want the freedom to decide who lives and dies. 

    Still no word, either, on what they would replace the ACA with.  They got nothing. 

     




    You dont. "Replace it" you stop it and start over on HCR bill everyone can get behind (not made behind closed doors with shady deals) and get everyone involved!

     



    Except that the GOP has stated quite explicitly that it will not 'get behind' anything issued from the White House under virtually any circumstances regardless of whether the policies were originally hatched by gopers.

    And now they look destroy the law that their own petulant opposition wrought...

    ...at least when they're not trying to take credit for the parts of the law people like.

     

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    "Replace it" you stop it and start over on HCR bill everyone can get behind   I think what Matty is saying is what you've typed there.....those are meaningless words. They're just as meaningless when a politican says them.

     



    I cant write the F in bill in post but, the point is it should be something that does what it was supposed to do!

     

    lower rates

    get everyone insured

    Include everyone not just (non-union personnel)

    all govt employees including elected officials should be under the same rules.

    How many thousands of companies were given waivers now?

    Its a debacle and you know if, if you would just admit it we could start a discussion on how to do better!

     
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    Before ObamaCare was passed 85% of the public were satisfied with their health care.

    So the approach is to do what was said by US Generals about villages in Vietnam:

    "Obamacare will destroy the best healthcare system in the world in order to save it" 

     
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     You never come up with something that Obamacare doesn't already do,

     



    BS you just refuse to admit it's a piece of shlt legislation!

     
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    Re: Meanwhile In Congress: Attempt #37 To Repeal The ACA

    lower rates




    How? 

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    Ask Obama and the Dems who wrote the bill. They were the ones who said it would lower rates.

     

     
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    I've said many times there are quite a bit of flaws.



    you "quite a bit of flaws" to anyone not neck deep in current policy defense means it's a debacle and needs to be trashed and started over.

     
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    Levin, and Republicans like Ryan, like to say that Obamacare’s cost control’s consist only of the Independent Payment Advisory Board — “unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats,” as Ryan calls them.

    In fact, the law created a wide slew of reforms intended to attack health-care inflation from every possible angle. The law created bundled payments, so that Medicare would pay hospitals or groups of doctors based on quality, not quantity, of care. It penalized hospitals that have to readmit patients owing to shoddy work (they previously would enjoy a second payday for doing so), taxed high-cost health-insurance plans, encouraged electronic medical records and research on effective treatments, and many other things. Nobody believed every one of these experiments would work perfectly. The idea was to try as many promising reforms as possible, and health-care wonks expressed cautious optimism that the law contained a wide breadth of them.

     

    Over the last few years, health-care inflation has indeed decelerated — far more deeply than even the most optimistic backers of the law dare hoped. The federal budget for Medicare and Medicaid in 2020 is now projected to be 15 percent lower than forecasters expected a few years ago.

    At first, the sharp slowdown in health-care costs was assumed to have happened because the recession is making people cut back on their medical care. Levin has clung stubbornly to this interpretation. But as the trend has persisted, and undergone deeper study, a consensus is emerging that this is not the case at all. Several studies have found that the recession does not account for all, and possibly not even most, of the slowdown.



    This bill will save every American and average of 2500.00 in healthcare premiums.

     
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    Is this the Commissioner of the IRS, the enforcement agency for ObamaCare? He will be saying "Before I help you, may I see your Democratic Party membership card? Your tax records indicate you attended a Tea Party rally. No health care for you!"

     
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