Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/12/menino-gives-occupy-boston-protesters-midnight-deadline-threatens-further-action/22LNO3yr2zZLLpWWvPZlSK/index.html?p1=News_links


     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment:
    [QUOTE]Like no one saw this coming....
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    I don't see anyone saying they didn't see this coming. 

    By all means have the last word which no doubt will involve some type of insult.


     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    Its time for them to move out.  The movement can exist without being physically in Dewey Square and as the winter sets in there are legit public health and safety issues that the city has to consider.  Boston was good to the Occupy Boston protesters (certainly better than other cities that moved in some time ago to break up the camps by force) so exercising good judgement here is critical if they want to be taken seriously down the line. 
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    Anyone know roughly how many protesters are still down there?
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    GOOD...Go away!!!
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    I wonder what they'll do now to fill their days now that the big party is over? 
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]BDC had an article saying that the more responsible ones (to the extent that being deliberately unemployed for months is 'responsible') are packing up and arranging for u-haul trucks and the like to ship stuff to homeless shelters, etc.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow[/QUOTE]

    Are all unemployed persons that way deliberately, or just the OWS folks...??

    I've known many people who've lost their jobs, and very few were intentional.

    What good does it do to say, get a job, when there are no jobs to be gotten??
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    I always assumed WhatDoYouWantNow was more liberal/progressive for lack of better terms
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    Umm...yeah.

    WDYWN is hardly wingnuttish....
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : I don't know about liberal/progressive but your point is taken.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    Fair enough on the terminology. 
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : It depends entirely and exclusively on the issue. On some I agree with the conservative position, other times the liberal position, and with respsect to health care.....the socialist position (single payer). Often enough I don't agree with any of the positions.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow[/QUOTE]

    Mitt?  is that you?
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : I was not exactly saying "occupy a job." They may not have intentionally lost their job at first, but I do not see how one can logically dispute the point that the act of sitting in a public park for 3 months is also a decision not to seek employment for 3 months. You definitely cannot get a job if you are not looking for one. All I know is that when I've been unemployed, I spent my entire day trying to get employed. And if I were facing foreclosure or anything like that you can bet your *ss I'd be working all around the clock on whatever I thought could make some money. I most certainly would not go sit in a park for three months. I consider any OWS protester who cannot afford to be unemployed to be extremely irresponsible. Perhaps the only good that could come of it is a reesume entry favorable to 'social action' organizations. Otherwise, not only are you choosing not to look for a job for the duration of your occupation, you are also widening the hole on your resume. Unwise to an extreme.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow[/QUOTE]

    But plenty of people volunteer for various causes for no pay, so while they may not have paid employment, they are indeed working for something.

    I also submit that plenty of people who support the occupy movement are also working regular jobs, paying bills and taxes, etc.  If they take a couple of weeks off to live in dewey square and shout at the man, then fine, have at it.

    Point being is that it's hard to quantify what exactly calls some people to a particular vocation.  Sometimes it's necessity, or faith, or even an overwhelming need to try and effect social change for the greater good.  And social activism is indeed a vocation.

    I support the act of civil protest on principle, no matter what the cause.  I might disagree with their point-of-view or dispute their argument, but it's hardly my place to say they shouldn't be doing it or that they're doing it wrong (provided they're not hurting or intimidating anyone).

    The fact of the matter is that, for better or worse, the occupy movement has sparked a national - even global - conversation over what it means to own and control wealth in this country.  Whether it goes anywhere remains to be seen...and may even be beside the point.
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    Yup.. I'll bet the former Democratic based ACORN criminals 'donated' their precious time to help shread documents.

    Kumbaya baby!!
     
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    [QUOTE]Yup.. I'll bet the former Democratic based ACORN criminals 'donated' their precious time to help shread documents. Kumbaya baby!!
    Posted by KittyDuke[/QUOTE]

    Maybe they did.  I don't know for sure.  Do you?

    There's also such a thing as paid activism/electioneering.  Not ideal, but our campaign laws implicitly allow it.
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    My fellow American, Are you labeling what ACORN did as 'paid activism/electioneering' ?

    Perhaps we will never know.

    It's time for Boston to take the trash out. How Mumbles played both sides of this fence Pro Occupy (ignoring the laws for permits, providing them with utilities, etc) and ANTI Occupy tells me he's the right man for the job.
    Makes me want to trust him....
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : But plenty of people volunteer for various causes for no pay, so while they may not have paid employment, they are indeed working for something . I also submit that plenty of people who support the occupy movement are also working regular jobs, paying bills and taxes, etc.  If they take a couple of weeks off to live in dewey square and shout at the man, then fine, have at it. Point being is that it's hard to quantify what exactly calls some people to a particular vocation.  Sometimes it's necessity, or faith, or even an overwhelming need to try and effect social change for the greater good.  And social activism is indeed a vocation. I support the act of civil protest on principle, no matter what the cause.  I might disagree with their point-of-view or dispute their argument, but it's hardly my place to say they shouldn't be doing it or that they're doing it wrong (provided they're not hurting or intimidating anyone). The fact of the matter is that, for better or worse, the occupy movement has sparked a national - even global - conversation over what it means to own and control wealth in this country.  Whether it goes anywhere remains to be seen...and may even be beside the point.
    Posted by MattyScornD[/QUOTE]

    No doubt plenty of working people support the movement.  I do, however, challenge their "right" to occupy public space, particularly space that has ALREADY been set aside for EVERYONE TO USE.

    From my perspective, the conversation the OWS movement has sparked has centered and remained on how the protesters feel the are entitled to things they haven't earned.  It won't go anywhere.  It was a creation of the Obama campaign to paint Romney into a corner.  Looks like it won't have that need anymore.
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment :From my perspective, the conversation the OWS movement has sparked has centered and remained on how the protesters feel the are entitled to things they haven't earned.  It won't go anywhere.  It was a creation of the Obama campaign to paint Romney into a corner.  Looks like it won't have that need anymore.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    Put lightly, your perspective is a bit skewed.

    And "obama creation" is just a flat-out lie with no basis in reality. 

    Romney holds the paintbrush nicely on his own.
     
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    [QUOTE]My fellow American, Are you labeling what ACORN did as 'paid activism/electioneering' ? Posted by KittyDuke[/QUOTE]

    That's what it was.  No labels needed.

    Unless you're referring to something specific...?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : Well I'm not sure how much we differ on the point. It matters a great deal which protestors we're speaking about as they do come from all over the place. I'm talking about the people I saw interviewed who said things like "yeah, I walked off my job to camp out for two months" or "I'm losing my apartment by doing this, etc etc etc". I don't know. Strikes me as incredibly irresponsible. And if they do not quickly find jobs, I will not only be paying to keep their camp safe, but will be paying for their food, their housing, etc. I don't appreciate that anymore than someone who refuses to get health insurance coverage, has an emergency, and thus indirectly sends insureds the bill. Moreover, while civil protest is certainly a sign of a healthy democracy, I don't think OWS quite fits the bill. They take a public space from the public and camp out, sending the public the bill. Everyone else gets a permit, has their marches, has their rallies, and gets their message out.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow[/QUOTE]

    Well, through the media filter, anything is bound to get distorted, so grain of salt and all that...

    OWS is definitely a civil protest, only of a different sort.  I've said from the beginning that I appreciate their efforts to start a dialogue about certain economic inequalities (among other issues), I just wasn't sure they were going about it the right way.  The first goal is getting attention.  They did that.

    All I'm saying, without putting too fine a point on it, is that in some ways, they were successful in raising issues that resonate with a lot of people, so the means to that end were partly justified.  The notion of not having a single leader or issue has actually worked in their favor, IMO.  It's harder to hit a moving target.

    A quick glance would see that the Boston contingent at least was rather peaceful; authorities were respectful and not brutish; and issues were resolved within proper channels (the courts).  Now, having lost their stay in court, they can de-camp for the winter and live to fight another day.
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment : Put lightly, your perspective is a bit skewed. And "obama creation" is just a flat-out lie with no basis in reality.  Romney holds the paintbrush nicely on his own.
    Posted by MattyScornD[/QUOTE]

    Well, I can't prove Obama created it, but it has his organizing finger prints, and one of his czars, Elizabeth Warren claimed that she created, obviously while working for Obama.


    However, when ever a liberal throws out the word "lie", you know you are close to the truth.

    I have no use for Romney.
     
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    Re: Menino today gave Occupy Boston protesters a midnight deadline to leave their Dewey Square encampment

    phase II coming up...
     

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