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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?

    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?

     

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?

    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?

     




    IMO this is a 'covert issue' that gay activists are pursueing silently.

        See Google:

       https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl

     

    It's anybody's guess as to why lower the consent age? (more youth to harvest?)

     

    The motive most likely is continued perpetration and expansion of the GLBTQ lifestyle.

     

      What's your idea/s Hansoribrother?



    I have no clue why someone would want to lower the age of consent. One reason could be that there are situations where a 16 or17 year old has sex with 15 year old and it seems pretty stupid to charge them with a crime. It would be even dumber if they charged two people who are 15 for having sex with each other. But I don't think you would have to lower the age of consent to do that, you'd ahve to change the law to deal with those types of situations.

    Other than that, wouldn't have to be adults wanting to be able to have sex with minors? What else is there? 

    I also wasted my time listening to that interview. She NEVER said that LGBT or anyone gay was behind a movement to lower the age of consent.

    The Headline of your OP is inaccurate. If purposeful, of course it would be a lie.

     

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    So Bachman didn't say it, and it appears the LGBTQ forces aren't pushing for it.

    sounds like another War on Women moment.

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to hypertext's comment:


    In response to ronreganfan's comment:


    So Bachman didn't say it, and it appears the LGBTQ forces aren't pushing for it.


    sounds like another War on Women moment.




    But she did say it. And the LGBTQ forces aren't pushing for it.




    She didn't say it. Did you listen to the interview??


    She referred to a group of people wanting to push the edge or some such stuff after she talked about a push for marriages of multiple partners to be legalized. In no way did she say gay people or LGBT people were trying to lower the age of consent.


    But maybe you prefer the Dan Rather School of Journalism route - so what if the information is inaccurate or a lie, we still know that Michelle Bachmann thinks that way.

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?

    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?

     




    IMO this is a 'covert issue' that gay activists are pursueing silently.

        See Google:

       https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl

     

    It's anybody's guess as to why lower the consent age? (more youth to harvest?)

     

    The motive most likely is continued perpetration and expansion of the GLBTQ lifestyle.

     

      What's your idea/s Hansoribrother?



    I have no clue why someone would want to lower the age of consent. One reason could be that there are situations where a 16 or17 year old has sex with 15 year old and it seems pretty stupid to charge them with a crime. It would be even dumber if they charged two people who are 15 for having sex with each other. But I don't think you would have to lower the age of consent to do that, you'd ahve to change the law to deal with those types of situations.

    Other than that, wouldn't have to be adults wanting to be able to have sex with minors? What else is there? 

    I also wasted my time listening to that interview. She NEVER said that LGBT or anyone gay was behind a movement to lower the age of consent.

    The Headline of your OP is inaccurate.

        If purposeful, of course it would be a lie.

     



    The "Headline" is a condensed version of the article's title.

       Therefore - NOT A LIE !

     

    Listened to what interview?

      There was NO AUDIO in that article ..

        Got an audio link??

     

    Your 'consent' response has merit but Bachmann

    clearly says 'gays' and 'not consenting minors'.




    If you click on the link provided at the end of the OP, it will take you directly to the article. Contained within the article is a link to the audio of the interview. 

    The fact that the OP did not know the audio link was contained in an article he or she posted makes me question whether or not he or she actually read the article or whether he or she simply saw the headline as an opportunity to engage in flaming. I am inclined to let this thread stand, for now, to see if the conversation evolves into something meaningful but if it continues down this road, it will be pulled.

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?

    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?

     




    IMO this is a 'covert issue' that gay activists are pursueing silently.

        See Google:

       https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl

     

    It's anybody's guess as to why lower the consent age? (more youth to harvest?)

     

    The motive most likely is continued perpetration and expansion of the GLBTQ lifestyle.

     

      What's your idea/s Hansoribrother?



    I have no clue why someone would want to lower the age of consent. One reason could be that there are situations where a 16 or17 year old has sex with 15 year old and it seems pretty stupid to charge them with a crime. It would be even dumber if they charged two people who are 15 for having sex with each other. But I don't think you would have to lower the age of consent to do that, you'd ahve to change the law to deal with those types of situations.

    Other than that, wouldn't have to be adults wanting to be able to have sex with minors? What else is there? 

    I also wasted my time listening to that interview. She NEVER said that LGBT or anyone gay was behind a movement to lower the age of consent.

    The Headline of your OP is inaccurate.

        If purposeful, of course it would be a lie.

     



    The "Headline" is a condensed version of the article's title.

       Therefore - NOT A LIE !

     

    Listened to what interview?

      There was NO AUDIO in that article ..

        Got an audio link??

     

    Your 'consent' response has merit but Bachmann

    clearly says 'gays' and 'not consenting minors'.



    There is a link, if you are curious enough to find it. Of course you believe the claim without checking to see if it is accurate.

    Here is a link:

     

    http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe

    Start listening around 26 minutes.

    She refers to a movement trying to force acceptance and celebration of behaviors on the American people. Something also about financing it - which I don't fully understand. She mentions the current movement being to accept transgenders. I don't think she ever even used the term "LGBT". Then she makes some comment about "they" going after changes in the age of consent. "They" refers to a movement on the left to force us all to tolerate, accept, and celebrate behaviors that this movement has decided we should celebrate and if we don't like it, tough. At times she refers to "gay", but she doesn't mean "gay" in the strict sense of the word, she means the political community pushing the agenda. Nowhere that I heard did she even use the term LGBT.

     

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

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    In response to -V-'s comment:


    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:


    In response to -V-'s comment:


    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:


    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?


    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?


     






    IMO this is a 'covert issue' that gay activists are pursueing silently.


        See Google:


       https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=LGBT+pushing+for+a+change+in+the+age+of+consent+laws&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS347&gws_rd=ssl


     


    It's anybody's guess as to why lower the consent age? (more youth to harvest?)


     


    The motive most likely is continued perpetration and expansion of the GLBTQ lifestyle.


     


      What's your idea/s Hansoribrother?




    I have no clue why someone would want to lower the age of consent. One reason could be that there are situations where a 16 or17 year old has sex with 15 year old and it seems pretty stupid to charge them with a crime. It would be even dumber if they charged two people who are 15 for having sex with each other. But I don't think you would have to lower the age of consent to do that, you'd ahve to change the law to deal with those types of situations.


    Other than that, wouldn't have to be adults wanting to be able to have sex with minors? What else is there? 


    I also wasted my time listening to that interview. She NEVER said that LGBT or anyone gay was behind a movement to lower the age of consent.


    The Headline of your OP is inaccurate.


        If purposeful, of course it would be a lie.


     





    The "Headline" is a condensed version of the article's title.


       Therefore - NOT A LIE !


     


    Listened to what interview?


      There was NO AUDIO in that article ..


        Got an audio link??


     


    Your 'consent' response has merit but Bachmann


    clearly says 'gays' and 'not consenting minors'.




    There is a link, if you are curious enough to find it. Of course you believe the claim without checking to see if it is accurate.


    Here is a link:


     


    http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe


    Start listening around 26 minutes.


    She refers to a movement trying to force acceptance and celebration of behaviors on the American people. Something also about financing it - which I don't fully understand. She mentions the current movement being to accept transgenders. I don't think she ever even used the term "LGBT". Then she makes some comment about "they" going after changes in the age of consent. "They" refers to a movement on the left to force us all to tolerate, accept, and celebrate behaviors that this movement has decided we should celebrate and if we don't like it, tough. At times she refers to "gay", but she doesn't mean "gay" in the strict sense of the word, she means the political community pushing the agenda. Nowhere that I heard did she even use the term LGBT.


     



    Thanks Hansori for the clarity. 



    So, "V",  In other words, you are for lowering the age of consent, particularly in reference to being able to celebrate older people having sexual relations with currently under age children? Is that what you are saying?

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    Why is Bachman obsessed with Gays?  I have some friends that are gay polygamists.  Nicest people in the world.  Funny too.None of them get up on soap boxes spewing hate speech at heteros.  Funny how the people engaging in hate speech see others as a threat.  

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    What about the right wing Christian agenda? 

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to -V-'s comment:

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    In response to -V-'s comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    Are members of the LGBT pushing for a change in the age of consent laws? Or are they not?

    Why would someone advocate that? What might their motives be?

     




    IMO this is a 'covert issue' that gay activists are pursueing silently.

        See Google:

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    It's anybody's guess as to why lower the consent age? (more youth to harvest?)

     

    The motive most likely is continued perpetration and expansion of the GLBTQ lifestyle.

     

      What's your idea/s Hansoribrother?



    I have no clue why someone would want to lower the age of consent. One reason could be that there are situations where a 16 or17 year old has sex with 15 year old and it seems pretty stupid to charge them with a crime. It would be even dumber if they charged two people who are 15 for having sex with each other. But I don't think you would have to lower the age of consent to do that, you'd ahve to change the law to deal with those types of situations.

    Other than that, wouldn't have to be adults wanting to be able to have sex with minors? What else is there? 

    I also wasted my time listening to that interview. She NEVER said that LGBT or anyone gay was behind a movement to lower the age of consent.

    The Headline of your OP is inaccurate.

        If purposeful, of course it would be a lie.

     



    The "Headline" is a condensed version of the article's title.

       Therefore - NOT A LIE !

     

    Listened to what interview?

      There was NO AUDIO in that article ..

        Got an audio link??

     

    Your 'consent' response has merit but Bachmann

    clearly says 'gays' and 'not consenting minors'.



    There is a link, if you are curious enough to find it. Of course you believe the claim without checking to see if it is accurate.

    Here is a link:

     

    http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiochristian.edu/faith-liberty/podcast/michele-bachmann-direction-nation-andrew-mccarthy-why-president-should-be-impe

    Start listening around 26 minutes.

    She refers to a movement trying to force acceptance and celebration of behaviors on the American people. Something also about financing it - which I don't fully understand. She mentions the current movement being to accept transgenders. I don't think she ever even used the term "LGBT". Then she makes some comment about "they" going after changes in the age of consent. "They" refers to a movement on the left to force us all to tolerate, accept, and celebrate behaviors that this movement has decided we should celebrate and if we don't like it, tough. At times she refers to "gay", but she doesn't mean "gay" in the strict sense of the word, she means the political community pushing the agenda. Nowhere that I heard did she even use the term LGBT.

     



    My Apology .. There is an audio link that I failed to see.

     

    Just listened to it and it seems to coincide with the article's content & message.

     

    I have a difficult time understandng her (audio) 'cause she seems a little spacey .. at times.

     

    Sooo .. Where do we go from here Hansoribrother? 



    Not much to talk about really. If you think the OP is accurate then I question your stance as a moderator. 

    We all know that Bachmann is a religious person who believes certain things about alternate lifestyles. Does that give people the right to lie about what she says?

    How do you justify that?

    Did you hear the term "LGBT" even come from her lips?

    Do you really think that she believes gay people want to prey on little children? Or do you think that she believes the people that are pushing legislation to lower the age of consent want to prey on little children? 

    DO you call the truth what actually happens or what someone thinks happened?

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to devildavid's comment:

    What about the right wing Christian agenda? 



    What about it?

     
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    Why is Bachman obsessed with Gays?  I have some friends that are gay polygamists.  Nicest people in the world.  Funny too.None of them get up on soap boxes spewing hate speech at heteros.  Funny how the people engaging in hate speech see others as a threat.  



    Why do that when anything "right wing Christian" will do nicely as a catch-all?

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    Is the audio in this link the one in question?

    http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/07/28/bachmann-marriage-equality-advocates-want-to-let-adults-prey-on-children-sexually/


    The link also provides a transcript.

     

    Host Dave Garrison: One of my previous guests said that the way immorality, which is what you are talking about, gets into culture is first they argue for tolerance, then acceptance, and then celebration, and I added that after celebration, there is intolerance to those that disagree with their immoral positions. Does this seem the way the gay rights advocates have treated people with a Christian worldview, or people that disagree with them?

     

    Rep. Bachmann: That’s where we are now. As a matter of fact, we see that in legislation being pushed all across the United States to punish people who don’t agree with that viewpoint. And I think that’s very reflective of where we are at in the culture and why we see the rise of tyranny. It’s the basis for hate speech laws across the United States. It is an attempt to have government coerce and force speech and behavior. Let me say that again. This is an effort to have government coerce, force, speech and behavior. And it is being pushed and advocated by the gay community. This is their ultimate goal, is to not allow for diversity of opinion on this issue. Because they don’t want to be celebrated — they want to force everyone to not only agree with them, but also have to finance their agenda. And they also believe that they have the right, David, to determine on a near-daily basis what their agenda is. Today, the big push is on transgender. And so they’re continuing to push this down the road. I believe we’re going to see coming an effort for multiples in marriage. Not just two — but multiples in marriage. I think they want to legalize that. I think also they want to abolish age of consent laws, which means children…we would do away with statutory rape laws, so that adults would be able to freely prey on little children sexually. That’s the deviance we’re seeing being embraced in our culture today. 

     

     

     

    [I have omited the editorializing from the link]

     

    An honest person who knows English, and thus understands pronouns like "they", cannot fail to see that the assertions she made were in reference to "the gay community." I've provided some emphasis to help any potential stragglers.

     

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    And apart from the fact that she did in fact say it, is anyone honestly surprised? She was making very similar comments during her campaigns. Indeed, didn't (doesn't?) her husband run one of those "ex gay conversion therapy" clinics?

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:


    Is the audio in this link the one in question?


    http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/07/28/bachmann-marriage-equality-advocates-want-to-let-adults-prey-on-children-sexually/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/07/28/bachmann-marriage-equality-advocates-want-to-let-adults-prey-on-children-sexually/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/07/28/bachmann-marriage-equality-advocates-want-to-let-adults-prey-on-children-sexually/



    The link also provides a transcript.


     


    Host Dave Garrison: One of my previous guests said that the way immorality, which is what you are talking about, gets into culture is first they argue for tolerance, then acceptance, and then celebration, and I added that after celebration, there is intolerance to those that disagree with their immoral positions. Does this seem the way the gay rights advocates have treated people with a Christian worldview, or people that disagree with them?


     


    Rep. Bachmann: That’s where we are now. As a matter of fact, we see that in legislation being pushed all across the United States to punish people who don’t agree with that viewpoint. And I think that’s very reflective of where we are at in the culture and why we see the rise of tyranny. It’s the basis for hate speech laws across the United States. It is an attempt to have government coerce and force speech and behavior. Let me say that again. This is an effort to have government coerce, force, speech and behavior. And it is being pushed and advocated by the gay community. This is their ultimate goal, is to not allow for diversity of opinion on this issue. Because they don’t want to be celebrated — they want to force everyone to not only agree with them, but also have to finance their agenda. And they also believe that they have the right, David, to determine on a near-daily basis what their agenda is. Today, the big push is on transgender. And so they’re continuing to push this down the road. I believe we’re going to see coming an effort for multiples in marriage. Not just two — but multiples in marriage. I think they want to legalize that. I think also they want to abolish age of consent laws, which means children…we would do away with statutory rape laws, so that adults would be able to freely prey on little children sexually. That’s the deviance we’re seeing being embraced in our culture today. 


     


     


     


    [I have omited the editorializing from the link]


     


    An honest person who knows English, and thus understands pronouns like "they", cannot fail to see that the assertions she made were in reference to "the gay community." I've provided some emphasis to help any potential stragglers.


     




    You missed something.


    They refers to gay rights advocates, many of whom are not gay. And activists are not the same as "rank and file", everyday people that just want to live their lives and be left to that rather than forcing their lifestyle on others.


    and this statment in the article is totally false:


     


    Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) accused the LGBT community of advocating for the legalization of child rape during an interview on conservative radio show “Faith & Liberty” Wednesday.


     


    Where is the word LGBT in the transcript? Must have missed it.


    I am not claiming that Bachmann is all the sudden for all things gay, but I am just asking for honest REPORTING, not something that is made up from what one infers.


    Then we are also ignoring who is actually promoting these revised laws for age of consent? There is no reporting on that either. How do you know they aren't gay or LGBT  or gay rights advocates etc?


    You are making claims with no facts in evidence.

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    "They refers to gay rights advocates"


     


    No, Hansori. Reading is fundamental. She said "And it is being pushed and advocated by the gay community."


     


    Please notice that I bolded and red-ed "the gay community."


     


    Absent a new subject-actor, every "they" thenceforth refers to "the gay community"


     


    This is how pronouns work in the English language. Rather than putting forth a transparent knee-jerk defense of the letter next to her name, why not just say the truth? Michelle Bachman, as we have come to expect, has said something stupid and crazy. It's OK. You may both be conservatives. What she says doesn't reflect on you.

     
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want Laws To Freely Prey On Little Children - Sexually'.

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    rather than forcing their lifestyle on others.


    If someone has forced you to have sex with a person of the same sex against your will, you should call the police because that is rape.


    Were you referring to someone forcing you to have sex with a person of the same sex against your will?

     
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