Mon mows down 23 middle school students with car; another stabs 23 elementary school students! Do we blame cars and knives?

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    Mon mows down 23 middle school students with car; another stabs 23 elementary school students! Do we blame cars and knives?

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Chinese-man-drives-car-into-students-injuring-13-4144574.php

     

    Rock solid evidence that it's not about the tool used!!

     

     
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    I think it is just a flaw in the latest five year plan, you know, the system of managing the economy through government that Obama and his minions love so much.

     
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    Re: Mon mows down 23 middle school students with car; another stabs 23 elementary school students! Do we blame cars and knives?

    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China has seen more than a half-dozen school attacks in less than three years, though the death tolls have been mostly in single digits, largely because knives have been the most-used weapon. China largely prohibits private ownership of guns

     
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    Re: Mon mows down 23 middle school students with car; another stabs 23 elementary school students! Do we blame cars and knives?

    Crazy NRA

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China has seen more than a half-dozen school attacks in less than three years, though the death tolls have been mostly in single digits, largely because knives have been the most-used weapon. China largely prohibits private ownership of guns

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    Only by luck was no one killed!! It's about the intent and the fact that PEOPLE who want to murder in mass will do so regardless of how many rights we take away from innocent people or blame the tools!!

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

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    China largely prohibits private ownership of guns 

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    China also has large portions of it's society forced into slave/child labor camps and a govt of strict communism!

    If the citizens were armed would the govt be able to do this??

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China has seen more than a half-dozen school attacks in less than three years, though the death tolls have been mostly in single digits, largely because knives have been the most-used weapon. China largely prohibits private ownership of guns

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    Only by luck was no one killed!! It's about the intent and the fact that PEOPLE who want to murder in mass will do so regardless of how many rights we take away from innocent people or blame the tools!!

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    Please stop talking.  You proposeed the absurd idea that all weapons should be available to citizens.  That machine guns and r.p.g.s are perfectly appropriate for people to play with.  You are a cartoon character.  Run along now.  The serious people want to talk here. 

     
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    Only by luck was no one killed!! It's about the intent and the fact that PEOPLE who want to murder in mass will do so regardless of how many rights we take away from innocent people or blame the tools!!

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    Please stop talking.  You proposeed the absurd idea that all weapons should be available to citizens.  That machine guns and r.p.g.s are perfectly appropriate for people to play with.  You are a cartoon character.  Run along now.  The serious people want to talk here. 

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    lol, what a tool. I never proposed people be able to have any RPG with ammo.

    The FACT is the weapon used is just an instrument and taking that instrument away will not stop the violence.

    800,000 people were mass murdered with machetes in Riwanda during the 90's; a country that had few guns!

    Take away those machetes and they may just bash skulls in with stones!

    The FACT is when people or soceities are committed to killing in mass or genocide; the instrument they use to carry it out is NOT the problem.

     
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    Going forward, anyone found with a firearm will be shot.

    Thank you.

    The Management

     

     
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    Crazy NRA

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    Sister,

    Alinsky called, he wants his tactics back.

     

     
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    I never proposed people be able to have any RPG with ammo.

    Which proves that your are completely full of sh!t. See, you said this in this very thread: "Rock solid evidence that it's not about the tool used!!"

    If it's not about the tool used, then there is no reason why citizens shouldn't have RPGs or howitzers.

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    lol, what a... well you know.

    I actually have no problem with a law abiding mentally stable citizen having a howitzer or RPG for collection purposes. The question is the ammo; since they cannot be fired legally anywhere (to my knowledge) why would anyone need ammo?

     

     
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    Rock solid evidence that it's not about the tool used!!

    tvoter thinks assault weapons should not be banned unless the only killings committed world wide are carried out with assault weapons? 

    What a genius.

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    I think useless govt restrictions on law abiding citizens is assinine!!

    WDYWN thinks the govt can stop or slow down violence by making certain weapons illegal for law abiding citizens!

    because we know if, they are illegal, criminals and crazy people wont have them either!

     
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    Crazy NRA

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    Sister,

    Alinsky called, he wants his tactics back.

     

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    Don't give me any credit for making Lapierre, the NRA and almost everyother gun owner look crazy !  They did it on their own !

     
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    ""Rock solid evidence that it's not about the tool used!!" means assault weapons should not be banned.

    But,

    "Rock solid evidence that it's not about the tool used!!" means RPGs should be banned.

     Or would you be fine with allowing assault weapons, but banning all ammo that could be used in assault weapons regardless of whether it can also be used in other weapons?

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    I see a clear distinction between AR-15's (assault rifles) and RPG's! Your attempt to make RPG's, tanks, fighter aircraft etc the same as an assault rifle is assinine. It takes common sense to have this debate and you show an inability to think in those terms in this argument.

     
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    I see a clear distinction between AR-15's (assault rifles) and RPG's! Your attempt to make RPG's, tanks, fighter aircraft etc the same as an assault rifle is assinine. It takes common sense to have this debate and you show an inability to think in those terms in this argument

    You see a distinction? Then why do you resort to insults instead of laying out the logical foundation for this distinction you see?

    Or is this another conservative regurgitation of "I have a personal opinion. I have a right to have a personal opinion. So, blarghlblarghlytata shut up I'm right"

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    One very obvious and clear distinction is that an assault rifle can be legally used at gun ranges across the country.

    Another example is that assault rifles are used in many competitive shooting sports by individuals and gun leagues.

    There are more how many would be suitable for you?

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China has seen more than a half-dozen school attacks in less than three years, though the death tolls have been mostly in single digits, largely because knives have been the most-used weapon. China largely prohibits private ownership of guns

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    So, attacks are ok as long as no one dies?

    I guess you would have to think that in order to be a liberal.

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China largely prohibits private ownership of guns 

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    China also has large portions of it's society forced into slave/child labor camps and a govt of strict communism!

    If the citizens were armed would the govt be able to do this??

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    Immelt, Obama's jobs czar, he's down with that forced slavery thing.  Just part of the next five year plan for us.

     
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    Did you happen to read (and comprehend) that nobody was killed in either attack?

    Also from the article:

    China has seen more than a half-dozen school attacks in less than three years, though the death tolls have been mostly in single digits, largely because knives have been the most-used weapon. China largely prohibits private ownership of guns

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    So, attacks are ok as long as no one dies?

    I guess you would have to think that in order to be a liberal.

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    No.....but attacks where nobody dies are better than attacks where dozens die. 

     
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    Only by luck was no one killed!! It's about the intent and the fact that PEOPLE who want to murder in mass will do so regardless of how many rights we take away from innocent people or blame the tools!!




    These wingnut arguments are just getting idiotic.

     

    So when a nut tries to use a car for something other than it's intended purpose, and fails miserably, it's 'luck'.

    Of course it couldn't be the fact that a car is not designed to kill so it fails miserably when used for things other than it's intended purpose. Of course this is the exact opposite of what an assault weapon was designed to do....

    Wow, next thing ya know these whacko wingnuts will try and compare a military assault weapon with a steak knife or a baseball bat.

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    Guns are designed to defend in the same way cars are designed to provide transportation.  That each can be used inappropriately is clearly the operator's fault.  Agreed?

     
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    Despite this, some conservatives position seems to require them to adopt the following principle: If solution X does not entirely do away with problem A, solution X should be ignored.

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    Pretty much sums up their taxation stance too.  If raising taxes on the top 1% doesn't completely eliminate the deficit, then taxes should remain where they are.

     
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    Guns are designed to defend in the same way cars are designed to provide transportation.  That each can be used inappropriately is clearly the operator's fault.  Agreed?

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    Since you argue that guns are like cars, perhaps its time to:

    Annually register each and every gun.

    Require gun owners to get a licence which requires tests both written and practical with different tests for different kinds of guns.

    Require gun owners to carry liability insurance.

    Subject gun owners to a myriad of rules as to how they may operate the guns.

    Annually inspect each and every gun.

     

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