Re: More and more wingnuts are acknowledging who is responsible for this budget fiasco and gov't shutdown.
posted at 10/7/2013 5:05 PM EDT
In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:
In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:
Peter King: GOP Is Responsible For The Government Shutdown
“The fact is, it was done in the House, and the government is now closed and Obamacare is going forward. This was a strategy that never could have worked." "We are the ones who did shut the government down," he later added. "Charles Krauthammer called it the suicide caucus. The Wall Street Journal said they were kamikazes."
GOP Rep Blames Cruz For Shutdown: 'He Took A Lot Of Folks Into The Ditch'
"But if I had to cast blame anywhere, I would say it was Sen. Cruz and those who insisted upon this tactic that we all knew was not going to succeed," Dent said. "What he did essentially, Sen. Cruz, basically, he took a lot of folks into the ditch. Now that we're in the ditch, you can't get out of the ditch, the senator has no plan to get out of the ditch, those of us who do have a plan to get out of the ditch and will vote to get out of the ditch will then be criticized by those who put us in the ditch in the first place."
Nunes calls fellow House Republicans ‘Lemmings with suicide vests’
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had choice words for fellow House Republicans who are willing to see the government shut down over their opposition to Obamacare: "Lemmings with suicide vests," he called them.
"They have to be more than just a lemming. Because jumping to your death is not enough," he said.
"You have this group saying somehow if you’re not with them, you’re with Obamcare. If you’re not with their plan -- exactly what they want to do, you’re with Obamcare. It’s getting a little old," he said.
Like it or not the right leaning Reps seats are safe, as they represent their districts, or they wouldn't be acting that way. The HoR is a representaive body for the people. If they fail to represent they'll be rolled out like the Dems where for what Pelosi did during they short lived legislative supermajority that brought us ACA. The people didn't like how ACA was voted in.
The Senate is a body that is less reactive to the will of the people with only 1/3 up for re-electing each cyle. The Senate represents states rights.
Now I don't agree with their tactics and but I do understand what drives them. But that doesn't mean that I support Cruz.
In fact I'd like to see both houses of Congress (1/3 0f the Senate) completely replaced next election.
I think you're right that right-leaning Reps are safe, but it's the moderate Reps that are made vulnerable by stunts like this. Charlie Dent spoke his frustration with the tea party - he's all but assured a primary challenge now. John Boehner will almost certainly face a challenge. But if these challenges are successful, are PA an OH voters more likely to vote for a Ted Cruz or a moderate Dem? The Dems can't regain the House by traditional means - they need help from the Tea Party, and this is shaping up to be terrific for the Dems. The best outcome they could hope for is a battle within the GOP leading up to the mid-terms.